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[Squiggles 1171]

I read on the Wiki (cause wiki's are SO reliable ) that one of the returning locations in ME2 is the Citadel. Though it seemed salvagable and mostly inhabitable by the end of the first game, wouldn't the council need to evacuate and demolish it? I hope it doesn't return exactly the same as it was in ME1, with the people sprawling on top of what is basically a ticking time bomb.

And on that note, where were all the people when it was attacked? I'm not sure they could evacuate so many people at such short notice.

Also, on an UNRELATED note, what is Chris gonna do now that the evilface smiley isnt here anymore?  Doesn't quite suit.

[Captain Crash]

Well it certainly needs to repair work. But it was of Saren and the geth on the Presidium going up to the council chambers where virtually all the damage occurred. The wards would have had minimal damage. Maybe a few stray mass accelerator shots in the fight against Sovereign.



I am sure they would have no problem repairing and restoring the Council Chambers after Sovereigns "impact". But as you say now the Council know its a "time bomb" would they stay there? They simply cant destroy or not use the Citadel as its the heart of the Mass Relay network and critical for its usage. Considering how inept the council were in the first game though it seems unlikely they will actually move the heart of government from the Citadel. In fact it to them it would make more of a political point to stay. They don't fear the Reapers and neither should the rest of the galaxy.



Plus I think Chris is making do out of a lack of choice.

[Squiggles 1171]

True. There was a lot of large debris, which would have damaged to "crust" of the wards a fair bit. But nothing major.



I agree, they seem to think they're above the Reapers, especially after one was killed. But still, I hope we get to see how they dealt with the problem.

[faeriehunter]

Actually, I'm pretty sure the Citadel WILL return mostly unchanged. There are several reasons for this. I posted them on the old ME message board and will repost them here:



First of all, the Citadel is the centre of galactic civilization. Not only would evacuating it be a massive undertaking, either a new place big enough for everyone currently living on the Citadel would have to be built from scratch or the population would have to disperse altogether.



Second, destroying the Citadel (or at least the relay to dark space) is easier said than done. Much of the Citadel is made from extremely tough materials meant to protect the Citadel from any attack. And since very little is understood about mass relays it's unclear which parts of the Citadel have to be destroyed to stop it from opening into dark space. Hell, nobody even realized that the Citadel was a mass relay until the events in Mass Effect.



Third, the Citadel is only a danger if the dark space relay is activated. As Sovereign found out, that can no longer be done remotely but has to be done from within the Citadel.



Fourth, when closed the Citadel is the most secure facility in the galaxy. Abandoning something like that, especially with a war on the horizon, is a last resort.



Finally, from reading Ascension it's clear that the Council is hiding the truth behind the attack on the Citadel from the average citizen, making them believe that the geth were acting on their own. This would make it very difficult to convince them that it's necessary to abandon and destroy the Citadel.



As for where all the people were when the Citadel was attacked, most of them were probably at the same places where they always are. Shepard only saw the presidium (and only a small part of that), the outside of the Citadel tower (where nobody would normally be anyway) and the council chambers (with the council having already been evacuated to the Destiny Ascension).

[kaff33nd]

I would imagine that the need to establish a team of exceptionally talented scientists, with the task of working out how to build mass relays (as the Prometheans did, successfully) should be the council's highest priority. Of course, in MY game, the 'council' is Anderson, so I'm sure the right decisions will finally start being made. It would also be prudent to design some form of defense against any future attempts by the Reapers (or any other species) from launching a similar attack in the future. maybe a task force and some new weapon - Anderson likes weapons.

[soulbane1118]

All they really have to do is move the relay/sculpture away from the citadel.

[DPSSOC]

Why would they need to do that, the Reaper threat's over, all is well and they can go back to twiddling their thumbs until the next catastrophe they'll do nothing to prevent.



Realistically though I don't think they could destroy the Citadel. If I'm not mistaken it's made from materials similar to the Mass Relays and the Mu Relay survived a Super Nova.

[Intelwolves]

Dpssoc, I would not bet on that. Sure wave one failed, but they are still out there. yeah sure the Citadel has major damage in some areas that we know of, but this is all a guess at this point. How much damage was done that we do not know about. We saw the tower only,but all the missions and gun fire and crap flying all over the place got to hit something even that one geth ship that was shot down did something and a few other things that happen on the run up did a ton of damage. Also, the damage from the ship attack and end cut scene. For those who did not play that was far as i am going into it. The rest you will have to play it to find out. (mass effect part 1)

[MDB18]

I imagine they're going into a more in-depth study of the place than before (I bet the guys scanning the keepers get a full pardon/support for continuing, and I expect they're going to go poking into the areas they used to leave as keeper-only). That might be sufficient to find and remove the relay function; if nothing else, any computer logs from Sovereign's access attempt probably gives them a good place to start looking. They wouldn't have to blow the Citadel to pieces to disable its mass relay I imagine; yank a few bits and shoot any keepers going near them and you could probably wreck that function. Of course I doubt the Reapers were dumb enough to rely solely on Citadel as their gateway back, especially given they created all the mass relays in the first place. They just probably liked it because it dropped them "dead center", but I imagine they had to have backups in place for events like current ones (like possibly the Omega relay...).

[Raptr569]

Destroy the Citadel? It is made of the same stuff as the Relays and the Mu Relay withstood a star going supernova!



I admit it would make sense to abandon it but the council is so blind that they probably wouldn't believe that Soveriegn was a Reaper or the Citadel was actually a Relay... not to mention that Because Shepards been dead for 2 years without one reaction from the Reapers I bet they'd still very much doubt there existance.

[DPSSOC]

Intelwolves wrote...

Dpssoc, I would not bet on that. Sure wave one failed, but they are still out there. yeah sure the Citadel has major damage in some areas that we know of, but this is all a guess at this point. How much damage was done that we do not know about. We saw the tower only,but all the missions and gun fire and crap flying all over the place got to hit something even that one geth ship that was shot down did something and a few other things that happen on the run up did a ton of damage. Also, the damage from the ship attack and end cut scene. For those who did not play that was far as i am going into it. The rest you will have to play it to find out. (mass effect part 1)

This is why I despise text based communication.  I had meant my comment about the Reaper threat being gone to be sarcastic.  I was trying to imply that that would be the attitude of the Council and that it would inevitably come around to screw them over.

[Swe_Racoon]

soulbane1118 wrote...

All they really have to do is move the relay/sculpture away from the citadel.

The relay monument isn't built by the Reapers, but rather the Protheans to be the other end of the Conduit, methinks. Simply removing it wouldn't prevent the Reapers from coming back.

[shiplemw33]

I would imagine that:



- all the people that are on the "arms" of the citadel where in their apartments, bars, etc and that honestly there was pretty significant damage all throughout the wards. There was a lot of particle



- the council will rebuild the citadel. The exterior was not damaged (more than likely) and while damage might exist in the wards, it can all be fixed.

[Commander sheepherder]

They don't fear the Reapers and neither should the rest of the galaxy.

 


lol dont fear the reapers

Modifié par Commander sheepherder, 26 janvier 2010 - 04:21 .