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[veramis]

Me3 mp was the reason I purchased da3, because I thought the mp might be as good. There's just so much to like about me3mp even though it was the same horde mode over and over again. Putting aside gameplay, me3 mp had far superior GUI, keyboard and mouse control, items, and customization. The GUI in da3mp has tiny text here and there, poor positioning (lol minimap), poor contrast between background and text, no text chat (in horde mode FPS i can understand, but an online dungeon game? really? what is this, 1970?) no preview and flipping between armor cosmetics, a "scoreboard" (v key or click middle bottom portrait icon) that isn't even a scoreboard. Ugh, I could just go on forever about the camera, suffice it to say, most of the times my character dies or I can't click a teammate to revive him before that templar boss spins his sword through me, it isn't because of me, it is because of the camera control being worse than anything I've ever seen in a computer game. And lack of customization is quite silly. Just look at the keeper's face. Do I really have to control a character that loos like an evil leprechaun woman?

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

I'm not sure what you mean, though there is an offensive word with similar spelling.

 

[-PenguinFetish-]

If you purchased a fantasy RPG soley because you enjoyed a sci fi third person shooter then you are not very smart.

Its like ordering a salad then getting annoyed because its not the same as the steak dinner you had yesterday.

[veramis]

If you purchased a fantasy RPG soley because you enjoyed a sci fi third person shooter then you are not very smart.

Its like ordering a salad then getting annoyed because its not the same as the steak dinner you had yesterday.

 

They said some of the people who made me3 mp were making da3 mp. To use an analogy that actually works, a chef makes a very delicious dessert, then makes a steak that not only is raw, is not even seasoned.

[-PenguinFetish-]

They said some of the people who made me3 mp were making da3 mp. To use an analogy that actually works, a chef makes a very delicious dessert, then makes a steak that not only is raw, is not even seasoned.

How does that work? The games brilliant. I love it. You just dont enjoy fantasy rpgs. Thats fair enough. Its still stupid to expect it to be the same gaming experience as a 3rd person sci fi shooter.

[Sir Jessku]

Penguin, I see the fact that people aren't happy with this game has totally blown your mind. I loved previous DA. I like fantasy games. I like sci fi me3mp. There are people not liking this game simply because it isn't that good. You love it, others don't.

I don't try to convince you to dislike it or make BS excuses why you like it. You aren't going to convince gamers it's a great game & our problem is we just don't like steak, salad, & medieval games.

[-PenguinFetish-]

Penguin, I see the fact that people aren't happy with this game has totally blown your mind. I loved previous DA. I like fantasy games. I like sci fi me3mp. There are people not liking this game simply because it isn't that good. You love it, others don't.

I don't try to convince you to dislike it or make BS excuses why you like it. You aren't going to convince gamers it's a great game & our problem is we just don't like steak, salad, & medieval games.

You still havent really explained why you still post on a forum for a game which you hate. I see your username all over here preaching that we should all hate this game for xyz reason, but i dont understand why you are still here. Do you have nothing better to do? You keep saying its not a good game (which is an opinion by the way, i dont really know why you think its a fact) but i, and others disagree. I also dont understand why you and others feel the need to compare this to an entirely different game, its just idiotic. Nobody compares world of warcraft to diablo or starcraft.

I dont need to convince gamers its a great game. The great reviews and awards its nominated for do that for me.

Do us all a favor and just leave. People like you is the exact reason that BSN has got a bad reputation for being whiney elitists.

[veramis]

You still havent really explained why you still post on a forum for a game which you hate. I see your username all over here preaching that we should all hate this game for xyz reason, but i dont understand why you are still here. Do you have nothing better to do? You keep saying its not a good game (which is an opinion by the way, i dont really know why you think its a fact) but i, and others disagree.

 

He paid for this game, he has a right to say his opinion, and his opinions are valid. Lack of feedback, good or negative, makes it more difficult for issues to be found and fixed, not that bioware seems to even care to fix things.

 

 I also dont understand why you and others feel the need to compare this to an entirely different game, its just idiotic. Nobody compares world of warcraft to diablo or starcraft.

 

 

Putting aside gameplay, ME3 mp has significantly better GUI, stability, PC optimization, camera control, and has voice chat toggle. I could go on forever about how much better the gameplay, balance, loot system, and replayability is in ME3 mp, but really there's no point because it should be obvious to anyone except people like yourself clinging onto the defense that "but dey tew diffrnt gamez".

 

I dont need to convince gamers its a great game. The great reviews and awards its nominated for do that for me.

 

The game has terrible user reviews.

 

Do us all a favor and just leave. People like you is the exact reason that BSN has got a bad reputation for being whiney elitists.

 

 

Having played a lot of mp because I already abandoned the sp because of **** writing quality, I've come across many people who feel similar to me about how bad da3 mp is, and it is very easy to tell that people aren't enjoying it anywhere as much as people enjoy me3 mp. Most people who have issues with a product would simply not bother to voice their criticism on a forum, it takes someone like Sir Jessku who cares enough to. But I have to agree that Sir Jessku should stop complaining about issues, simply because the game does not deserve his feedback.

[Hiero_Glyph]

I think much of the trouble with DAMP is the underwhelming crafting system.  It was supposed to take away some of the RNG but instead makes it so much worse.  Being able to upgrade materials and eventually craft a unique item should be the goal.  Even if these requirements are extreme at least players would have something to work towards instead of having to rely upon RNG alone.  Don't even get me started on getting items for a class you don't even play or have.  At least ME3's MP did not have any items that you could not use on the characters you had available.

 

Similarly, class restrictions on the party in the form of treasure rooms is artificial and instead of promoting a balanced environment for every class, it limits the strategic options if you want to maximize the gold gain from a run.  No such limitation existed in ME3's MP and the game was far better for it.  I'm not even sure how to fix this issue but I would say that at least 50% (probably more) of all treasure room should be comprised of doors from the classes of the current group.  MMOs need tanks to survive but creative groups have found ways to survive without them.  DAMP should not penalize a group for finding alternative methods for being successful, but it does penalize the players for not adhering to the 3 class requirement.  It's really just bad game design, especially since you cannot filter the classes of players that join.  You should be able to flag a Warrior for your group if you need one because of how the current system works just like you can in any MMORPG.

[kstarler]

...People like you is the exact reason that BSN has got a bad reputation for being whiney elitists.

 

Pot, please meet kettle.

 

Criticising the game is not the same as hating it. Personally, I am hooked into the single player campaign pretty thoroughly, but I need to see major improvements in the multiplayer aspect before I'll play it outside of an invite from my group of friends on Origin. The list of things I want to see (all of which were in ME3 MP from the demo) are:

• A better UI/Control scheme for mouse/keyboard on PC
• More balanced loot system (more cloth drops, salvagable armor, item leveling that makes sense)
• Push-to-talk voice chat functionality
• Some level of character customization

I would also like to see the way secret doors work changed. I understand the intent behind it (to insentivise party diversity), but I don't like the idea that if my friends and I want to do a four man Keeper run for laughs, or a four man Arcane Warrior run for a 70's flashback (gold jumpsuits FTW!), we will potentially miss ALL of the additional areas/mini bosses. Some of our most memorable groupings in ME3 MP were doing full Volus runs, which did not lock us out of being able to complete secondary objectives.

 

Also, because I don't recall if it was in the ME3 demo, I'm not including a Random Map option for the match creator in the list above, but it is definitely needed, along with more maps in general (ME3 started with six).

 

By the way, EA/BioWare compare ME3 MP to DAMP in their multiplayer FAQ.

[Stinja]

Agreed.  It's trying to hard to force things, and not letting teams organically develop.

 

Ditto the point i've made before about weapon restrictions:  in ME3MP you could have melee-Adepts, shotgun infiltrators and sniper-vanguards, and that freedom was (IMO) a huge plus to the diversity of both fun and builds.

DAMP's limiting classes to specific weapon types is bad.  I really hope they either patch that out, or allow an option to unlock weapons as you progress.

 

Yes for balance maybe cap the dps by the new weapon to that of your highest class weapon, but it's getting the other benefits that would be fun.

eg:  Keeper with a 100dps staff and 250dps 2H Greatsword, you can equip the greatsword, but only get 100dps yet all the 2H effects like AoE etc.

[JoshRainf]

There is a difference between constructive feed back and crying like a little girl because its not the same as the last game he played. 

 

If you dont like it, lump it...if you enjoy it but feel that it needs improvements, then share your thoughts but dont go about it like an 8 year old. If you love it, great stuff! share any of your findings and help others out. 

 

i never understand gaming communities, there is always so much hate and childishness. We all like different thing, have different interests, view things in a different way, want different things...

 

littering a forum with childish rants because you feel let down that the game wasnt up to your expectations isnt constructive, maybe if you think that you could create a better platform for a game, then go and knock on bioware's door and tell them what to do. 

 

enjoy the game if you wish! 

[kstarler]

littering a forum with childish rants because you feel let down that the game wasnt up to your expectations isnt constructive, maybe if you think that you could create a better platform for a game, then go and knock on bioware's door and tell them what to do.

 

Was this meant ironically? I'm pretty sure it was irony, but it's hard to tell.

[Hiero_Glyph]

Just for reference, remember the feeling you had when you got your first black UR card in ME3?  You felt like you were working towards something great.  My first unique in DAMP was a level 5 staff; I have commons that are stronger.  Yeah, I'm only left feeling cheated at this point.  It's just a poor system when 2/3 (or 5/6 if not a staff) of the classes cannot even use an item.  I'm sure Bioware is proud of their accomplishment but this is a significant step backwards from ME3's MP.

[-PenguinFetish-]

He paid for this game, he has a right to say his opinion, and his opinions are valid. Lack of feedback, good or negative, makes it more difficult for issues to be found and fixed, not that bioware seems to even care to fix things.

 

 

Putting aside gameplay, ME3 mp has significantly better GUI, stability, PC optimization, camera control, and has voice chat toggle. I could go on forever about how much better the gameplay, balance, loot system, and replayability is in ME3 mp, but really there's no point because it should be obvious to anyone except people like yourself clinging onto the defense that "but dey tew diffrnt gamez".

 

 

The game has terrible user reviews.

 

 

Having played a lot of mp because I already abandoned the sp because of **** writing quality, I've come across many people who feel similar to me about how bad da3 mp is, and it is very easy to tell that people aren't enjoying it anywhere as much as people enjoy me3 mp. Most people who have issues with a product would simply not bother to voice their criticism on a forum, it takes someone like Sir Jessku who cares enough to. But I have to agree that Sir Jessku should stop complaining about issues, simply because the game does not deserve his feedback.

 

Bioware is active on BSN and reddit. Ive spoken to a few devs myself because I personally verify and flair their accounts on reddit. There is loads of feedback from the devs. Check this thread if you disagree. Plenty of responses from devs who offer assistance and let us know that they are aware and working on it.

 

Are we really going to compare the technical status of a game thats been out for almost 3 years to one thats been out for a week? You obviously didn't play early on then, because ME3 was completely broken at launch. Much more so than this game. 

 

I don't even think I need to touch on the credibility of user reviews. Users like yourself would vote this game 0/10 because you bought a game based on a completely different one. The other end of the spectrum is true aswell. Is this game worth 10/10? Hell no. Not in its current state. But people still rate games that high because its usually a 0 or a 10 rating that they give. Reviews made by impartial professional reviewers whos job it is to review games rate this very high.

 

Your last statement is the most ridiculous of all. 'Most people who have issues with a product would simply not bother to voice their criticism'. Seriously?  Anything bad that is in a video game is shouted from the rooftops. (see GTA online, ME3 ending, DA2, Ubisoft, EA, etc etc) If you haven't got any issues then there is no reason to make loads of threads saying so. 

[-PenguinFetish-]

Oh and while on the topic of user reviews, ME3 has worse user reviews than DA:I.

[rafoquinha]

Wow! I played a lot of ME3MP, but Inquisition is sooooo much better IMO!

[Cirvante]

 

Reviews made by impartial professional reviewers whos job it is to review games rate this very high.

 

I have to play devil's advocate and mention that DA2 also had really high ratings.

[Alden]

To be honest, you are comparing a dungeon crawler to what is essentially an arena-style game. If you enjoyed the latter, it does not mean you'll necessarily enjoy the former and its really not a fair comparison in terms of the amount of entertainment you'd get out of it. I guess you could complain about the UI and other PC related lack of functionality, but that's not what the original poster's complaint is about. 

 

Being able to have those clutch moments, of grouping with competent team mates or being able to overcome those that are flawed by either helping or communicating, that's part of the thrill of a dungeon crawl. I'm sorry the OP doesn't enjoy it, but that's not to say that many of us don't. 

 

And to be frank. I been in plenty of routine games where the tank is anything BUT competent and the keeper feel like he's an elementalist. Still managed to win those. Threatening was a bit tougher, you'll need to have some people who know what they are doing but there's still a fair chunk of room for error. and even if you die at the last room you still get like, 80% of the xp and short 80 gold out of 800-1000 gold you'll normally get anyways. 

 

There's obvious improvements that could be made, but overall the experience (when I can actually connect to a game) has been pretty fun. I also adored ME3MP, but I never bothered to try to make a comparison between this game and the other one simply because when I buy one game I don't expect it to be exactly the same as the other (otherwise why bother even doing so?). 

 

I did a 4 man all-Assassin run. We missed a couple of doors. But no big deal. I mean, if you are doing stuff for **** and giggles, does it matter if you miss a bit of gold here and there? Sure, maybe you'll end up 20 gold less you need to buy a chest... but then you can always run another game. 

 

 

I'm sure the MP portion of the game will grow. 

 

[Sir Jessku]

Bioware is a for profit company not our buddy. Consumers should demand the best from all companies. That is part of why I continue posting. I never said it was fact the game isn't good. It isn't a fact that it's good or bad. For the record it isn't good. BSN is full of elitist whateveryousaid, that's probably fact.

[xROLLxTIDEx]

I loved and played 100's of hours of ME3 MP.

 

I have played this pretty much non stop since my EA Access.  I love this game as well.   It is not perfect but it is the most fun I have had since the ME3 MP.  Of all of my friends who have picked this game up, every single one of them has enjoyed it and played it (the MP) non stop since purchase.  Some of these friends did not play ME3 at all.  Other friends have claimed that this is finally the MP dungeon crawler game that they have been wanting on xbox.  This is the only place I have heard/read anything bad about this game, period. 

 

I am looking forward to Bioware adding more DLC content in the future and supporting this MP the same way that they did with ME3.  More dungeons, more characters, more unique weapon drops.  They can add the ability to craft weapons, not just weapon upgrades so that you can craft that weapon you want instead of RNG.  The future of this MP is very bright.  You might not like it, but I am loving it.

[Reginald Cousins]

Just suck it up until you get some levels and/or a decent weapon for a dps class.  With just an i-lvl 20+ weapon and around level 6+, one can easily solo routine with MOST classes.

 

Keep grinding and pray to rngesus.

[Cirrusstrafe]

I dunno man, I've had the most fun so far rocking a 4 Elementalist pure DPS party with my friends, we blow through Threatening at level ~12 like it was nothing.  Eager to see if we can trounce Perilous at 18-20.

[Smittyry17]

I think it is silly to think it was just like mass effect. Ignoring different type of game the devs did gameplay sessions before the game came out. That should have let you know what to expect.

[Beerfish]

Matches are slowly improving over time.  Had much better groups yesterday than previously as far as planning and team play.