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[ArrogancyDTillmuraine]

I honestly was upset because I thought Sera was the hottest, only to sadly discover she only likes girls.  Second playthrough as a chick perhaps?

 

Maybe it's just that your mileage varies, Tigercml.  Personally I'd have liked all the romanceable characters to be romanceable by all genders, ala Dragon Age 2 - would have increased the odds that the character you wanted to end up with would be enduppable.  On the other hand, I like that Dorian is gay only, not because I want to romance him, but because I like what they did with the characterization, and I'm not sure it would have been as strong if he were straight or bi.

 

I guess what I'm saying is that he's...fabulous.

[Sartoz]

And once again it becomes painfully obvious why not planning for mods was a terrible idea. Everybody could have been happy. =(

Agreed....absolutely, positively....

[Sartoz]

So far the only Bioware romance I did no initiate only to see how it went was Morrigan's. The actual look of the character had nothing to do with it though (video game character bodies and faces are too generic for me). I blame Claudia Black, she has the power of the voice :-) .

Yes, Morrigan was a compelling character.

[Sartoz]

I had a "loner" play-thru of the ME Trilogy. I actually wished EDI was a romance option. But, I did find all female romance characters to be attractive (including Tali).

 

What type of character would you like to romance, then? Do you have an example from a game?

Morrigan

[Efvie]

It’s unfortunate that the OP did not find the two’s looks or personalities compelling. It’s too early for me to say anything about personalities yet…

 

…

 

Once again, though, I think it shows that the decision to segregate the romances by gender was the wrong one. The characters would be just as compelling gay or straight.

 

In the real world, if I found neither Sera nor Josephine attractive, I could always just go chat up Scout Harding or Fiona any number of women out there in the vast wide world. In the game I can’t; therefore it would make sense to maximize the potential matches and open up all romance options to everybody.

 

I never understood the ‘emg is not romans simuletur get lief’-comments. It does have purposely built romance options. It is not unreasonable to hope that those would be fulfilling for everybody.

[AlanC9]

The thing about Morrigan is that her romance wasn't just a sideshow like romances in Mass Effect. This is true of Alistair as well, and Bastila and Carth in KOTOR for that matter. They factored into and were part of the larger story, so there was more motivation (for me at least) to take part in them. Mass Effect's romances (and seemingly every Bioware game after DA:O) were more self-contained and served little purpose other than to tickle the player's fancy.

Huh? Morrigan's only involved with the DR -- other than that she's a "sideshow" too. Isabela's as involved with DA2's story as Morrigan is with DA:O's. Leliana and Zevran aren't involved with the DA:O story at all. And how do you figure that Liara and Miranda aren't part of the story in their games. Hell, I'd rank Tali's importance over Morrigan's

[Terodil]

I don't really get the issue...

Say you (m/w) work at NASA and build telescopes.

Would a requirement for any romantic interests be that they help you reach your deadlines faster?

So why is it required that romantic interests in DA:I tie directly into the main story arc?

[Cambios]

And while we're on the subject of women, why are all the women dressed like they're ready for a convent.  There's nothing wrong with a strong beautiful woman who's not afraid to show she's also sexy. There is definitely a strong gender bias, misrepresentation and hatred towards women in this game, lesbians especially. I expected better from a company that claims to care about equality. 

 

Someone at the current Bioware seems to think women should be portrayed as ugly, sexless nuns.

 

In general, the character design throughout the whole game - male and female - is very unappealing.

[CrystaJ]

It's a world tearing itself asunder and we're complaining about the characters not being pretty or sexy enough. They can be a lot worse, I can assure you.

 

BROOD MOTHER FOR LI OPTION PLS

 

I hope the demons win.

[Sergeant Awesome]

The straight male options are terrible as well, however, if you need romance, find a real person.

[Wolven_Soul]

Sigh, I will never understand why people feel the need to point out to gamers that they're playing a game.

 

NO **** SHERLOCK

Because I honestly think that some people forget that fact.

[Wolven_Soul]

Romance is a huge factor in Bioware games and a big selling point. You find attractive women in the highest selling games like Mass Effect, DOA, Street Fighter, FF, Tomb Raider, etc.

No, romance is not a huge factor, and if that were ever true, I would weep for the future of gaming.  It is a fun side plot at the most.  People buy the game for the actual game itself.  If DA:I,s combat was terrible, or the voice acting was bland and monotonous, or the skill progression was boring, or if there were a lot of game breaking bugs, or if the game world was just plain ugly and boring to explore...those would detract sales.  

 

Taking the romance options out of the game would affect sales so minutely, that they wouldn't even notice.  Anyone, and I mean anyone, who buys a freaking game so that they can romanticly pursue one of these characters, rather than as something to do to pass the time when not killing dragons, needs to get a life.  Seriously.

 

I hate saying something so harsh, but it's true.

[Cambios]

It's a world tearing itself asunder and we're complaining about the characters not being pretty or sexy enough. They can be a lot worse, I can assure you.

 

 

 

Huh?

My world is just fine, thank you. That's why I can sit down at night and frivolously spend my time playing video games.

 

Since they are for entertainment, I'd kinda prefer if the characters I was romancing were hotties. This is not an unreasonable wish, and the entire history of Bioware's previous RPGs sets a trend and expectation that hotties will be present.

[visigothsniper]

Huh?

My world is just fine, thank you. That's why I can sit down at night and frivolously spend my time playing video games.

 

Since they are for entertainment, I'd kinda prefer if the characters I was romancing were hotties. This is not an unreasonable wish, and the entire history of Bioware's previous RPGs sets a trend and expectation that hotties will be present.

Really, what is wrong with you people?

How can you forget one of the most basic lessons we learn in life, mainly for self-esteem reasons? "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
You're acting like a bunch of spoiled brats who are going to complain about every little thing that doesn't go exactly as you want. 
I find the vast majority of the romance options (and the other characters too, anyway) pretty damn attractive. In a self-insert pt wouldn't romance any of them. Same for the other DA and ME games. I couldn't romance Sten, I couldn't romance the ~Arishok~, nor Aveline, not even Joker.
Different people play the games differently, expecting different things, so just accept that you will NEVER have a game that is 100% ideal to you. 

[Wolven_Soul]

Huh?

My world is just fine, thank you. That's why I can sit down at night and frivolously spend my time playing video games.

 

Since they are for entertainment, I'd kinda prefer if the characters I was romancing were hotties. This is not an unreasonable wish, and the entire history of Bioware's previous RPGs sets a trend and expectation that hotties will be present.

I think they meant the game world, though come to think of it the real world ain't much better.

[TheGoddess0fWar]

I'm no lesbian but I think Sera is gorgeous

[Hellion Rex]

I'm very disappointed with the lesbian romance options in this game. You have either Joffrey from Game of Thrones or a boring politician with the personality of a wet mop. Is this what Bioware thinks of lesbians? They're ugly and butch or if they're pretty they have no personality. I thought Bioware prided itself on equality instead of the cliche lesbian tropes that we're offered.

And while we're on the subject of women, why are all the women dressed like they're ready for a convent. There's nothing wrong with a strong beautiful woman who's not afraid to show she's also sexy. There is definitely a strong gender bias, misrepresentation and hatred towards women in this game, lesbians especially. I expected better from a company that claims to care about equality.

You think Sera is Joffrey? You clearly don't have a goddamn clue about what you're talking about. You also don't know a damn thing about the actual character.

[massive_effect]

No, romance is not a huge factor, and if that were ever true, I would weep for the future of gaming.  It is a fun side plot at the most.  People buy the game for the actual game itself.  If DA:I,s combat was terrible, or the voice acting was bland and monotonous, or the skill progression was boring, or if there were a lot of game breaking bugs, or if the game world was just plain ugly and boring to explore...those would detract sales.  

 

Taking the romance options out of the game would affect sales so minutely, that they wouldn't even notice.  Anyone, and I mean anyone, who buys a freaking game so that they can romanticly pursue one of these characters, rather than as something to do to pass the time when not killing dragons, needs to get a life.  Seriously.

 

I hate saying something so harsh, but it's true.

 

I hear this all of the time. "Get a life, or get a girlfriend". I understand that reaction, and it does have a certain truth to it. But, not everyone has "a life".

 

This is going to sound stupid, but if you study it, you will understand. The story of the Elephant Man. He had no life. He was repulsive and no woman would ever touch him. They screamed in fear of his sight. But, he liked two things...the Bible, and romance novels. I am willing to be that he would want to see some hot babes in his video games.
 

[CrystaJ]

Huh?

My world is just fine, thank you. That's why I can sit down at night and frivolously spend my time playing video games.

 

Since they are for entertainment, I'd kinda prefer if the characters I was romancing were hotties. This is not an unreasonable wish, and the entire history of Bioware's previous RPGs sets a trend and expectation that hotties will be present.

I'm referring to the game world, where a make-up'd super model with perfect face symmetry and cleavage-bearing armor ought to be difficult to find. I know it's a fantasy world, but you do not completely suspend the curtain of disbelief if you want to enjoy the story.

 

Perhaps that's the problem. You see the female characters as there for your entertainment, not to drive the story or remotely resemble actual people. Ergo, hotties ought to be around.

 

It's not something they did to appease them annoying feminists or factions other than white straight and male - it's a deliberate move more towards realism than idealism. And they're not even that bad. Drop any of these characters in the real world and they'd do just fine. You are, quite literally, hoping for Megan Fox - and anything below is considered some kind of hideous monstrosity.

 

Which is dumb and you should feel bad.

[Lady Artifice]

I'm very disappointed with the lesbian romance options in this game. You have either Joffrey from Game of Thrones or a boring politician with the personality of a wet mop.  Is this what Bioware thinks of lesbians? They're ugly and butch or if they're pretty they have no personality. I thought Bioware prided itself on equality instead of the cliche lesbian tropes that we're offered. 

 

And while we're on the subject of women, why are all the women dressed like they're ready for a convent.  There's nothing wrong with a strong beautiful woman who's not afraid to show she's also sexy. There is definitely a strong gender bias, misrepresentation and hatred towards women in this game, lesbians especially. I expected better from a company that claims to care about equality. 

 

 

THESE THREADS NEED TO STOP.

 

You not liking the options does not equal "the options are terrible on an objective level", and it for sure isn't a reason to call out Bioware for "hatred" toward women.

 

This thread should be locked.

[massive_effect]

THESE THREADS NEED TO STOP.

 

You not liking the options does not equal "the options are terrible on an objective level", and it for sure isn't a reason to call out Bioware for "hatred" toward women.

 

This thread should be locked.

 

It's not right to call for a thread to be locked because you disagree with it.
 

[Wolven_Soul]

I hear this all of the time. "Get a life, or get a girlfriend". I understand that reaction, and it does have a certain truth to it. But, not everyone has "a life".

 

This is going to sound stupid, but if you study it, you will understand. The story of the Elephant Man. He had no life. He was repulsive and no woman would ever touch him. They screamed in fear of his sight. But, he liked two things...the Bible, and romance novels. I am willing to be that he would want to see some hot babes in his video games.
 

He was also fairly intelligent, so I also think that he would understand the main point of my post.  That romance options are one of the least important things in a video game.

[Panda]

People should realise that not my type doesn't mean ugly. Apperance-wise only Dorian, Fenris and Sebastian are my type. Personality-wise only Dorian and Zevran. Still you don't see me complaining how unattractive Alistair, Anders, Cullen, Blackwall, Solas and Iron Bull are. I'm excluding female characters since being straight woman they really can't be my type (though I still can enjoy their looks and personalities).

 

Now if you think that I don't have any straight male LI option for me that was my type either appearance or personality wise. Still, I don't make that problem for me. I will do different characters that aren't me to explore various romance options in DAI no matter if they fit my personal type or not.

 

Also I would like to know how Sera has any masculine qualities since I have seen none so far and I didn't understand that part at all.

[Selea]

You see several women are arguing with her. We are not a hive mind. If every man does not have the same opinion as you, men are not "in general" irrational. Taking 2 different individuals who have different wants and desires, and somehow conflating them together will always make someone seem indecicive and confused. It's like "Gamers are the most confused people they can't decide whether they want an RPG or hate them" when yes the RPG fan knows and the FPS fans know but if you make them into a conglomerate, well they are just confused.

 
This has nothing to do with having an "hive mind" or not. Men usually don't go around dissing games and the like for "making men look like objects". You obviously don't know too much about the Sarkaasian issue and the huge fuss it created. Go look it around and you will see why it is so damn idiotic and why feminists are insane.

As for women not knowing what they want, that's easily proven. If you ask a girl to give you advices on how to seduce another woman you will never be able to do it. They simply don't know what they want. A man usually know (maybe it's simpler for them, sure, but anyway the hints that women give to men for seduction are completely obnoxious).