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[gingeranna]

There is no company producing games with this scope and depth anymore, companion focused RPG with the graphical fidelity and production value of Dragon Age 1, 2 or 3. Or Mass Effect 1, 2 or 3. 

 

Genuine question, what's more important? A deep, meaningful, complex RPG system that lets you tailor your party, your levels, your abilities, your stats, your gear to a particular strategy. Or a bombastic CoD set-piece action game, in a wizards robe?

 

Seemingly, you can't have both. I want the former. An RPG is called such, sits in the genre as such, because of a raft of specific details that sets it aside to CoD.

 

You want a game with a high level of graphical fidelity, in an RPG suit? Divinity Original Sin. That right there is a deep, thoughtful RPG full of numerous decisions made by the player themselves, backed up with huge amounts of stats, gear, abilities and so on. Visit the first town, take a dislike to the guards, attack them. Oh you may fail, they're not auto-levelled to your level. So wait. Go out, adventure, level up, tailor your stats, return later on and take them down. Hell, take EVERY NPC down.

 

There's nothing deep about this game. It's extremely shallow. There's plenty of flash bang wallop, if your idea of that is holding a button down whilst your character autoattacks, with the occasional special abilitiy, but tactical or deep is resolutely is not.

[Zhantee]

i like the game myself aswel but it feels at the end like it is totally not finished i hope there is actually a exspension comming i would buy it again for sure

[biain]

See that's the problem. People don't research before buying, and when they don't like it, instead of posting in a detailed manner under feedback, they go in other threads and go WHOAAAAA!!!! WHOAAAAA!!!! WHOAAAA!!!

 

The problem is BioWare stated, and some early reviewers repeated, that tactical combat and PC gameplay were back. This is not true, the tacitical camera is unusable (not zoomed out enough, and environment obscures view), there's no auto-attack, and no click-to-move/loot. The game is basically a dumbed-down, arcade version of Skyrim with three AI party members.

 

I did research DA:I because me purchasing it depended on it being a return to DA:O gameplay. BioWare stated that was the case, but either they don't understand what fans of DA:O (and predecessors such as Baldur's Gate) want or they just wanted to increase sales at the cost of losing reputation. I've been a long time fan of BioWare games, but this is a major disappointment. I'd request a refund if the 24-hour window hadn't passed.

[gingeranna]

The problem is BioWare stated, and some early reviewers repeated, that tactical combat and PC gameplay were back. This is not true, the tacitical camera is unusable (not zoomed out enough, and environment obscures view), there's no auto-attack, and no click-to-move/loot. The game is basically a dumbed-down, arcade version of Skyrim with three AI party members.

 

Exactly this but almost worse, because I'd say DA:I is a dumbed down version of DA2, which in of itself was hugely dumbed down from DA:O.

 

It really does feel like they've refined every aspect that may require more than a modicum of thought out of the game, to deliver an experience closer to Shadows Of Mordor, a much more action oriented, arcade game.

 

Can't tell you how let down I feel, right now. I gave Bioware the benefit of the doubt and they've massively let me down.

[Siduri]

Wow, I just popped into the forums to check if there was a workaround for a particular bug I encountered -- and I am just gobsmacked at the negativity here. My friends and I *adore* this game. I've already lost days to its vast scope, engrossing storyline, beautiful graphics etc. Everyone I know is raving about how great it is.

It's just kind of funny how the BioWare forum is *massively* more critical of the game than the general gaming forums I partipicate in.

[gingeranna]

Wow, I just popped into the forums to check if there was a workaround for a particular bug I encountered -- and I am just gobsmacked at the negativity here. My friends and I *adore* this game. I've already lost days to its vast scope, engrossing storyline, beautiful graphics etc. Everyone I know is raving about how great it is.

It's just kind of funny how the BioWare forum is *massively* more critical of the game than the general gaming forums I partipicate in.

 

Its not really funny though.

 

These forums in particular may see more critical responses because it will be full of gamers who have followed Dragon Age through all three games. Nobody can say that DA:I is a 1/10th the game that DA:O was. It lacks depth, it lacks detail, its had features stripped back, its had features stripped out.

 

For those who have been here since the beginning, each iteration of Dragon Age shows a decline in quality, whilst an increase in bombastic effects and set pieces. It's moved from being a stat-driven, genuine RPG to an 'action' RPG more suited to a console audience.

[Tofu]

Yep I requested a refund. I'm waiting until I can afford a PS4 to get it instead.

[parico]

No, because I have chosen to wait a couple of weeks after release, and then I'll decide if I want to buy it.

 

The first advantage of doing so has already presented itself - after hearing about PC technical issues, and lower quality graphics on 360/PS 3, I've decided that I'll get it for PS 4 (if I decide to buy it.)

 

 

If you are on ps3 or xbox 360 don't buy it anyway.  On 360 you cant have any conversation's without a disc error and the graphics are horrible.  I tried it on 2 different 360's same problem.   Thankfully my dad was able to send his 360 copy back to amazon for a full refund.  I have not had any game breaking issues on ps4 in my 25 hours so far and it looks great graphics wise. 

[DuckSoup]

Why would you play on a 360? might as well play on a calculator.

Moronic question, really.

[AlanC9]

Nobody can say that DA:I is a 1/10th the game that DA:O was. It lacks depth, it lacks detail, its had features stripped back, its had features stripped out.

They can't say that? That's funny; I've read posts from people saying that DA:I is as good as or better than DA:O. And some of them have been around here since before DA:O launched. (A couple go all the way back to NWN or BG, like me.)

I can't personally say if they're right or not -- this PC won't run the game without upgrades, and the game's too big for me to play out on a borrowed rig. I haven't seen any red flags yet, though, and people whose opinions I value tell me that it's a damn fine game.

Not every DA fan feels the way you do.

[AlanC9]

Wow, I just popped into the forums to check if there was a workaround for a particular bug I encountered -- and I am just gobsmacked at the negativity here. My friends and I *adore* this game. I've already lost days to its vast scope, engrossing storyline, beautiful graphics etc. Everyone I know is raving about how great it is.

It's just kind of funny how the BioWare forum is *massively* more critical of the game than the general gaming forums I partipicate in.

It's often been a bit like this. The NWN boards were overflowing with hate from players who couldn't stand that NWN wasn't BG3. KotOR was hated because it was a crappy console port -- which it kinda is. Jade Empire wasn't hated so much as it was ignored, since Bio didn't have many console-using fans at the time. And so on.

[gingeranna]

They can't say that? That's funny; I've read posts from people saying that DA:I is as good as or better than DA:O. And some of them have been around here since before DA:O launched. (A couple go all the way back to NWN or BG, like me.)

 

Objectively, its not 1/10th of the game DA:O is.

 

It might look nicer, it might even run nicer, it might have a better story but in terms of actual content, of things for the player to think about, to plan for, it has way, way less in it.

[biain]

An EA floor supervisor granted me a refund outside of the 24-hour return window after I explained the issues with unusable tactical camera and poor PC controls. It's unrealistic to expect most people to realize those issues within the first 24 hours.

 

Posted about it here.

 

If you want to be sure EA hears the message, chat or call Origin and get your refund.

[Lady Luminous]

i like the game myself aswel but it feels at the end like it is totally not finished i hope there is actually a exspension comming i would buy it again for sure

 

Are you telling me that the game has been out a week and you're finished already? 

 

Dear god, did you do no side quests? 

[Merzhin16]

I have the pc version and am satisfied with it, didn't encounter bugs of any kind.

[phishface]

I'll be returning the game tomorrow morning. It's unplayable.

 

Of all the games I've ever played, this is the one I thought I would never return, and would be playing for months or years. I was absolutely ready to love it, and to forgive or ignore any and all flaws. I've played the earlier games many times. I really wanted to see what happened to Morrigan and all the other charcaters I felt I knew so well. I was very excited to see the new story, characters and customisation. And I planned to play the multiplayer for months to come.

 

But the game is unplayable, literally. There are constant disc errors in the first few minutes. I've done everything that I can think of, including getting replacement discs, clearing the cache, and so on. Nothing works. Reports of this problem to EA and Bioware are met with a giant corporate silence.

 

So that's it. No DAI for me. Ever. I won't be coming back. I feel mistreated and resentful. This is not what companies want their customers to feel, but these companies have achieved it with incredible ease.

 

I guess I'll read the story on a wiki some time. In the meantime, I'll be playing games that actually work.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

I did. It's annoying.

[yankblan]

 

 

I did research DA:I because me purchasing it depended on it being a return to DA:O gameplay. BioWare stated that was the case, but either they don't understand what fans of DA:O (and predecessors such as Baldur's Gate) want or they just wanted to increase sales at the cost of losing reputation.

 

They never said it was a return to DA:O gameplay.  They said they brought back tactical view for Origins fans; don't extrapolate on what you read.  I've watched all the Twitch video, and they said exactly what I'm telling you.

 

Now, if it is broken or bugged; that can be fixed later on.  But playing Origins prior to this release to keep me waiting; the only diff between Origins and 2 is that the camera pans.  The rest is the same. (not talking about presentation or abilities, but the format)

[AlanC9]

Objectively, its not 1/10th of the game DA:O is.

It might look nicer, it might even run nicer, it might have a better story but in terms of actual content, of things for the player to think about, to plan for, it has way, way less in it.

Protip: "objectively" does not mean the same thing as "I really believe." I don't share your intuition, and you haven't given me any reason to rethink this.

If you want to try and make an actual objective case, you could start by listing the "actual content" and "things for the player to think about, to plan for."

Edit: hey, did you once have a different handle here? Your posting style seems kinda familiar.

[Ananka]

I'm on PC and I'm definitely not going to apply for a refund. I think the game is great. Sure, there are things that could improve, and I don't use the tac cam at all, but I haven't come across anything dealbreaking. I remapped the controls and don't consider them a problem for me. I've had no crashes or other technical problems beyond the need for a driver update to start the game. Everything runs smoothly for me.

I'd buy again, no hesitation.

 

If you're not happy with the product or can't get it to work on your system you totally should ask for a refund, though.

[whattheduece23]

Lmao at people who bought a next gen game on a last gen console.

Do you not take your gaming enthusiasm seriously?

All I know is game is great on ps4.

[Creighton72]

Refund requests already, seems like the ME3 threads all over again. Though I get the complaint about Bioware saying they were building this for PC. It's not and the last gen system versions are disasters. Though on the Xbox one it's not a bad game, glitches have been very limited, except for a new glitch for me. Had the game less than a week, and for the first few days I could log into the server, well god forbid things go smoothly. Can no longer log into the server which means no multi, which is BS. So I thought I would google the problem and see if there was something I could do. Then I found pages and pages at the EA site of people complaining about this. Worked fine for a couple of days and then no servers and it's been going on since the release with no fix.

So another classic buy our lies, got to take it back now. What's the point of buying a broken game that does not work with a company that is clearly not trying to fix or address the problem. Oh you can buy the game and in couple months it might work? Maybe a year or two in some cases. It's not like they don't know the problems exist, they test the games they see the flaws and then they say screw them lets get our money. My problem is pretty minor compared to all the PC and last gen problems, that was just flat out BS. But they have no accountability they don't really care, it's about money.

Lets put this way if they were in the business of making cars most of them would be out of work. "Wait the car is suppose to start?" ""Battery? What's that?" "What do you meant he breaks don't work, who needs breaks just stick your foot out the door like on the Flintstones."

Anyway no multi, no service, no dice! That's right a Fast Times quote. Is there a thread where people can describe the multiplayer to me? I have heard it's suppose to be good, wouldn't know myself, so I thought maybe someone would describe it to and I can pretend it's real. I'll hold my controller while I read the description and pretend I am playing it. So glad I paid for this. Buy a disk, download a disk, register with Bioware, EA, use disk and download together, then pretend to play cause it doesn't work. At least they are being consistent and making sure they continue their now well established history of poor products. I should of known better, always wait a year to buy anything Bioware or just don't buy at all. My own fault, such an idiot.

Hey maybe while I wrote this it started working again, and I can log in and the multi will be super great and... Nope still hanging. Got to turn off my system now, because that is the only way to get off the screen when this hangs. I know I can count the mages and the Templars as they walk by, Templars are moving way faster, slow ass mages, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... 456, 457, hey that one Templar looks the same, maybe they are walking in a circle off screen to trick me. It would be just like Bioware to do that to me.

[Lee T]

It's moved from being a stat-driven, genuine RPG to an 'action' RPG more suited to a console audience.

To a broader audience, or a more casual audience. Many people play Bioware games on console because they like them for what they are and are as disapointed as PC gamers by the direction the studio has taken. Plus, actions games like CoD or the AC serie sells plenty on PC too...

[biain]

They never said it was a return to DA:O gameplay.  They said they brought back tactical view for Origins fans; don't extrapolate on what you read.  I've watched all the Twitch video, and they said exactly what I'm telling you.

 

Now, if it is broken or bugged; that can be fixed later on.  But playing Origins prior to this release to keep me waiting; the only diff between Origins and 2 is that the camera pans.  The rest is the same. (not talking about presentation or abilities, but the format)

 

OK, if we're going to be pedantic...  I agree no one from BioWare said DAI would have gameplay exactly like DA:O. However, BioWare stated they would bring back tactical combat since people were disappointed it was removed in DA2. That would imply they're bringing back elements of DA:O gameplay. And in a way, they did. The tactical camera is there. The problem is the tactical camera doesn't actually let you, you know, get a tactical view of a battle. It's zoomed in too far and the environment (e.g., trees) often obscures the view. Along with removing auto-attack and click-to-move, tactical combat is so broken it may as well been left out.

[Ganen]

I'd be lying if I said I didnt consider a refund, but this is because I'm on the the hardcore gameplay > all crowd, then I considered that all the failing on the gameplay aspect when measured against all the things they did make much better than even origins (world design, effects, animation, well mostly aesthetics) and the good story/story telling that failed in DAII were worth the 36 euros.

 

if you are in the crowd that appreciates aesthetics and mostly the story aspect, and alot of bioware fans are (they would buy interactive movies with no gameplay at all tbh), inquisition is prly the best of all 3 games.

cuz lets face it this game did plenty of stuff right, I can not stress enough how gorgeous natural and immersive the world is on this game.

 

one thing I can say tho, I will not be buying DA4 (just like I didnt buy ME3 after knowing it was going be the same as ME2) unless I know, not from EA or marketing since they bluntly miss-lead their customers, but from independent gaming journalist like total biscuit, that the game will actually bring back the richer, more intelligent strategy-rpg aspects of gameplay.

 

Ill just watch youtube vids for the story really.