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[Dobyk]

Right, I don't have DA:I now, but I couldn't resist spoiling myself to a nice first chat with Solas from Lady Insanity.

 

The dialogue is just so intriguing, and really answers some questions and poses a lot of other ones as well, so I decided to share the video and see what others think. I know many of you have probably had this conversation in-game, or some of you are just curious. It doesn't really spoil much, at least I didn't feel spoiled at all, but it was so fascination hearing Solas talk about ancient elven magic, the Fade, elven immortality, blood magic, spirits and demons and anything inbetween!

 

 

First, I expected Solas to say that elves were immortal because they used blood magic, or that they were not immortal at all. But he was like "nope, they were immortal, not by means of magic. Tis' was simply part of being elven". And I was like "I really, really want to trust this weird hedge mage. Them elven haters still gonna keep hating"

 

Then, did he just imply that.... blood magic was practiced in the time of Arlathan? Like, in a subtle form? But it wasn't related to immortality... oh boy, I'm so hungry for more lore from this bald dude.

 

And also, crystal spires, palaces above clouds, beautiful magics that took centuries to cast..... sounds very Tolkien-esque, and I'm loving it

And the Demon-Spirit thing? Wisdom and Purpose turning into Pride and Desire? How we affect the way spirits show themselves? The battle of Ostagar? God, this is so good.

So, what do you guys think? Is Solas' knowledge to be trusted? Apart from Felassan from the Masked Empire, this is perhaps the only living character that can feed us information on the Fade, Elvhenan and magic in general.... But some of the things sound too dreamy and good for elven fans. What do you make of the whole dialogue (even if it is so short)? If you want, you can give other spoilery examples, just not huge, game-changing or end-game stuff (if there are people who have completed this game already).

So.... opinions?

[Morroian]

hehe yes he knows what he is talking about as to whether he can be trusted well thats another question.....

[ArvinDulku]

Nope, pretty sure he is cuckoo for coco puffs.

I really thought I would like him but with my current quizzy he is a horrible fit what with his crazy talk.

Now, Sera? There's an elf I can get along with(and honestly thought she would be annoying), such a logical and refreshing perspective on the whole elf thing.

Well, both are axe crazy still.

[Bigdoser]

Nope, pretty sure he is cuckoo for coco puffs.

I really thought I would like him but with my current quizzy he is a horrible fit what with his crazy talk.

Now, Sera? There's an elf I can get along with(and honestly thought she would be annoying), such a logical and refreshing perspective on the whole elf thing.

Well, both are axe crazy still.

I don't think he is cuckoo considering he is.. you know what? I am going to let you find out. 

[Dobyk]

I don't think he is cuckoo considering he is.. you know what? I am going to let you find out. 

 

Good reply I'm burning to buy this game already.... after I buy a new PC, that is Keep playing guys.

[rigron]

I accidentaly spoiled myself about Solas while making a google seach (no kidding), after starting reading his discussion curiosity overcame me so yeah, I did it.

 

Answering your questions:

 

_Is Solas knowledge on magic, elven magic, ancient magic, gods, the Fade, spirits, demons, etc to be trusted?

 

Definitely, he completely knows what he is talking about

 

_Is Solas to be trusted?

 

Well...you better play the game and find that by yourself...

[Battlebloodmage]

Of course you can trust him, you can always trust a bald guy, but yeah, he knows what he's talking about.

[ArvinDulku]

I don't think he is cuckoo considering he is.. you know what? I am going to let you find out.

.......

I am the type of guy who has spent 30 hours mooching around the Hinterlands and Storm Coast without finishing act 1.

Is it long before he proves me wrong?

[Bigdoser]

.......

I am the type of guy who has spent 30 hours mooching around the Hinterlands and Storm Coast without finishing act 1.

Is it long before he proves me wrong?

Considering when you find out who he its going to be awhile if you are still in the hinterlands by 30 hours. XD

[The Dread Wolf]

I wonder if Solas is the one that killed Felassan at the end of Masked Empire?

[DKJaigen]

.......

I am the type of guy who has spent 30 hours mooching around the Hinterlands and Storm Coast without finishing act 1.

Is it long before he proves me wrong?

 

 

Unfortunately its at the very end AFTER the credits and you will realise this guy is most likely the guy with the most knowledge about magic and a lot of other stuff. suffice to say i didnt see it coming

[blahblah]

You'll find out why Solas has this knowledge... after the game is over.

 

Spoilers...big ones

Spoiler

Solas is the dread wolf Fen'Harel

[AceHalberd]

These are probably questions best left til you have more experience with the game...and I strongly urge you not to click blahblah's spoiler unless you want something you really may not want spoiled spoiled. It certainly changes your outlook on a particular character, and the way they've been talking.

[rigron]

You'll find out why Solas has this knowledge... after the game is over.

 

Spoilers...big ones

Spoiler

Solas is the dread wolf Fen'Harel

 

Well, I would add the rest:

 

Spoiler

Of his titles: The Dread Wolf, He Who Hunts Alone, Lord of Tricksters, Roamer of the Beyond and Bringer of Nightmares

 

Yep, definitely this guy is gonna make a comeback on a future DA game, and probably not as an ally...

[NYG1991]

Haven't beaten the game or clicked the spoiler tabs but I kinda suspected solas right away. Just showing up to help with the rift to help as soon as it happened. His appearance and knowledge early on just seemed way too convenient

[Neleothesze]

Well, I would add the rest:

 

Spoiler

Of his titles: The Dread Wolf, He Who Hunts Alone, Lord of Tricksters, Roamer of the Beyond and Bringer of Nightmares

 

Yep, definitely this guy is gonna make a comeback on a future DA game, and probably not as an ally...

 

 

Spoiler:

Spoiler

 

All those names come from the Dalish who remember many, many other things incorrectly. 

 

For example we are told that vallaslin which is an important rite of passage now used to be used on slaves.

 

In the Temple of Mythal we find out that the Elven Gods weren't as the Dalish tell the tales. ...And "Solas" certainly seems respectful of Mythal even though he's a supposed betrayer.

 

Abelas (one of the Ancient Elven Guardians) even tells us that things are remembered wrongly.

 

So I don't think he's all that bad... or that he's going to be a villain. ...An anti-hero maybe... yes. Would we always agree with his means? probably not. 

 

After all, most of us wouldn't give an Ancient Artifact to a mad Tevinter magister with aspirations to godhood so we could restore a gateway.

[Roamingmachine]

*flemeth mode on* Words unspoken are as important as those spoken and when is as important as what. Beware the unlaughing jester    *flemeth mode off*

[Roamingmachine]

Spoiler:

Spoiler

 

All those names come from the Dalish who remember many, many other things incorrectly. 

 

For example we are told that vallaslin which is an important rite of passage now used to be used on slaves.

 

In the Temple of Mythal we find out that the Elven Gods weren't as the Dalish tell the tales. ...And "Solas" certainly seems respectful of Mythal even though he's a supposed betrayer.

 

Abelas (one of the Ancient Elven Guardians) even tells us that things are remembered wrongly.

 

So I don't think he's all that bad... or that he's going to be a villain. ...An anti-hero maybe... yes. Would we always agree with his means? probably not. 

 

After all, most of us wouldn't give an Ancient Artifact to a mad Tevinter magister with aspirations to godhood so we could restore a gateway.

 

Spoiler

About the vallaslin bit....They ARE as the Dalish tell they are. They adopted them after the fall of the dales as a mark of defiance to set them apart.What they were in Arlathan has no real bearing in that. Just had to say that as it grinds my gears as certain people are using these things as weapons against the dalish.

[sylvanaerie]

Utterly utterly a fascinating character.  He's probably my favorite thus far and I enjoy the shivers I get whenever he looks at my lady Lavellen mage when she doesn't see him watching her.

 

Spoiler

While a trickster, it is often the role of such an entity in mythology to also be a teacher. I think some of what he says can be accepted as truth, but a lot must be taken with a grain of salt. Just have to sift through the bullsh*t to find the truth behind it. What better way to lie than to add a few details others will accept as truth. Kind of glad my first playthrough is with a Dalish mage. He's definitely taken on the role of 'mentor' to my girl.

But everything he does is a serious mind f* to her.