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[Neleothesze]

I actually loved his whole story. Really well written. The spoilers I read beforehand said that he was Fen'Harel and was apparently going to betray me. Well... they got one out of two right.

 

I don't honestly feel betrayed (except in love). He gave Corypheus the orb BUT helped save my life after I received the anchor AND had my back ever since.

 

Also, something which I feel I should point out: When you talk to him he never lies. It's my people this and I saw this in the Fade... but at one point he even says that "Oh, you thought I'd be upset because both she (Brialla) and I are elves. I honestly hadn't considered elves my people." 

So yeah, I think he tell you stories of when the Elven Gods (who may have been real Gods or Immortal Elves) were alive and well... when he was part of the pantheon or the court... and when he traveled the world.

 

If you look for it... it's all there... spelled out in the clues. Listen to him talk to Varric or Cole. He doesn't sound like a mortal... even a very knowledgeable one.

 

He's also very respectful of the rituals in the old Temple of Mythal and appreciates it if the Inquisitor is as well... so I don't think he had any plans for murdering Flemeth/Mythal. 

 

Also, if he wanted to absorb her essence, why wouldn't he want the female elven Inquisitor to be bound to him (through the compact of the Well of Sorrows)?

 

He's done many things he didn't have to which I believe were done out of genuine caring. Why else would he tell me the truth behind the vallaslin and offer to remove the blood writing?

 

My take on all this is that when he wanted to end the war between the Elven Gods and the Forgotten Ones (whatever these two parties may have originally been) he made a mistake. So maybe it wasn't the Maker that was banished from the Fade but all the Gods. And he wants the orb restored to power so he can summon the Gods back... instead, the orb breaks.

 

Here's a conversation with Cole/Inquisitor/Solas I found:

"Cole: Ar Lasa Mala Revas. You are free. You are so beautiful, but then you turned away. Why?

Solas: I had no choice

Cole: She is bare-face, embarrassed, and she doesn’t know. She thinks it is because of her.

Solas: You cannot heal this, Cole. Please, let it go.

Inquisitor: Perhaps Cole can get a better answer from you than I did.

Cole: He hurts, an old pain from before, when everything sang the same. You’re real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything but it can’t. They sleep, masked in a mirror, hiding, hurting, and to wake them…(Gasps) Where did it go?

Solas: I apologize, Cole. That is not a pain you can heal."

 

So yeah... the Inquisitor won, but the other part... that's tragic.

 

Edit: And from a very, very selfish perspective... screw all that. I could have helped him somehow. My elven Inquisitor was a mage of no small power. It's probably conceited to think she could be of any use with the anchor gone but I do think it.

[Heimdall]

See, Solas' romance is great and it makes the elven plot all the more interesting. I almost wish I wasn't the sort of player that picks personal canons since Now I have to decide whether his romance is worth having to play as an elf. (When I really want it to be a Qunari...)

[Tevinter Soldier]

Spoiler

My observations may be incorrect, but if you look at his face right before Flemeth collapses, he gives her this really mean look. Then zap, she's down. I thought it was intentional on his part. He comes to her real meek and sorrowful sort of earning her sympathy and trust  and then kills her. As for whether or not that one act makes him evil, well Flemeth has done a lot of questionably evil things as well (if I am to believe Morrigan's stories). I certainly do not trust Solas, or any of the gods for that matter. I feel sorry for those who romanced him. As soon as I heard he was Fen'harel, I vacated that romance immediately.

 

really i got the exact opposite vibe

Spoiler

Solas planned to kill her as "punishment" and was deeply sorry about doing so, he believed he was the one that should be "punished" for his ......... "error" the flashy blue was him taking the O.G.S into him at which point he then went all evil eyed, which i assume was him getting all his power back via the old god. i truly got the feeling that flemeth KNEW she was going to die in their rendezvous and did so willingly, it's why it was so important she take morrigans kid at that time Solas wanted the old god spirit. because Solas wanted it.

 

This also adds with what flemeth was saying, the child was never in danger from her in the end flemeth really was redeemed her final act was to protect her grandchild. this is not to say solas wasn't a ****** and if even a smidgen of the lore is true he certainly shouldn't be trusted. I just get the vibe that flemmeth wasn't taken by surprise at all

[droitdivin]

I never liked him. 

 

But just play with the last save-file before the last main-quest, if you want him. 

[Sardoni]

Never trusted Dobby.

 

Flemeth made me smile.

[dam0dred]

I don't for a second believe he killed Flemeth. She remarks "I knew you would come" - Flemeth is nothing if not clever, why would she willing walk into danger? Her apology also suggests despite whatever he tries to pull, she will have the last laugh.

Which is good, because Flemeth is awesome.

[LinksOcarina]

All I know is...things just got real interesting.

[elikal71]

I'm going to go ahead and say that, no, you cannot get him back. 

Spoiler

Plus, he's a real jerk. He killed Flemeth. (Although, by that standard, I'm a real jerk, too.)

I don't think I'd want him back, anyway

 

I think you really misread the Epilogue

Spoiler

To me it doesn't look like he kills her. Doesn't he more look up angry? Like wanting revenge for her death? Nothing I see even remotely indicates he kills her.

[elikal71]

All i know; if you're playing Dragon Age, DON'T ROMANCE THE MAGE! 

 

First one dabbles in blood-magic and uses you as a broodstock(for a tevinter god no less), other turns out be a revolutionary extremist who blows off a chantry to start a worldwide civil war, and now this? The guy happens to be "the" evil elven deity? Seriously f**k it, from now on only rogues i romance!

 

 

 

Haha how true! Good to remember ^^

[volkoff]

He was originally a human magister of the Tevinter Imperium. In fact, he was one of the magisters that invaded the Black City. He was the first Darkspawn, and thus has a control over the taint that is very similar to the Archdemon. Though he is a Darkpawn now, he is a shemlen to his core. Also, the reason he is not very Darkspawn like, can probably be explained by the fact that he was asleep for thirteen hundred years, and woke up believing himself to still be a magister in ancient Tevinter, and a humble servant of Dumat and the Old Gods.

 

funny part is, before inquisition was released i already stated that i believed cory couldnt do all this crap alone. and that he was being used (i thought it was dumat and that dumat was the elder one) considering it seemed all so... convenient. but cory claimed (if i remember correctly) that there were no gods(and that he was decieved?) that the whispers of dumat that he heard were false whispers. echoes is the word i believe he used? what if those echoes was solas doing ? if so then he might've caused corypheus to become blighted. (or to get the power of the blight. however you want to say it.)

[volkoff]

ehh if there going to do another "oh he's not really dead he has a pet archdemon" thing like they did with corypheus it's going to be a repeat. Tbh, I hope they decide to have more than one tie to the story, that way we at least know they arent grasping at straws.

 

on my playthrough in the prologue i get flemeth saying something about there being an hidden war between the wardens. between the wardens in adamant fortress and the place where hawke went. (we dont know what happened to hawke and we dont hear from him/her anymore.) what if the architect actually succeeded(and/or is (ab)using it) ?

[Guilty]

So i might be wrong but wasn't that flemeth taking over solas like what she intended to do to morrigan not solas killingflemeth?

[jellobell]

So i might be wrong but wasn't that flemeth taking over solas like what she intended to do to morrigan not solas killingflemeth?

We aren't sure either way, but Flemeth says that she needs consent, and Solas didn't look like he was consenting to being taken over.

 

I think Flemeth will probably be back, but that Solas absorbed Mythal's power.

[Childofgrim]

Spoiler_ I believe either flemmeth took over solas body or allowed her self to die to give solas mire power so but it think they both agreed on what ever happen cause they want the same thing and I don't really think solas is evil. He gives coriphus the orb just to get it to work I don't think he intended him to try to destroy the world. Hes says he did his best to help the people so I think solas and flemmeth are trying to help all elves since they are elven gods

[Nibbin]

We aren't sure either way, but Flemeth says that she needs consent, and Solas didn't look like he was consenting to being taken over.

 

I think Flemeth will probably be back, but that Solas absorbed Mythal's power.

When was this said? So all of her previous daughters gave her consent? I thought all she needed to do was overpower them, hence why she gave the robes to the warden to give to Morrigan (they are to weaken her for when Flemeth finally decides to take her body).

I'm totally on the "Flemeth took Solas' body" train, she's clever, crafty and now more powerful than ever. 

[rikicohn]

"Solas only stays if you can convince him to return to the Inquisition and atone for his crimes but it only happens if you have a high enough friendship rate."

"I think you should clarify what do you exactly mean by 'end-game' here. If it's "up to the point that the final boss is defeated, the main story is resolved and we throw a big party for our heroes" then yes, Solas will stay. If it's "any post-game or missed content after that" then no, Solas will leave the party."

 

Please, anyone. Is it true? How do you get it to happen?

[inko1nsiderate]

Spoiler

My theory is that Solas is not a god but an immortal elf from the times of Arlathan. I think the stories are based on truth and Arlathan fell due to some kind of civil war. Maybe Solas was in some way responsible for it's fall by tricking both sides in an attempt to stop it (or something) and in doing so he caused the fall. I reckon he wishes to bring Arlathan back somehow and he needed the orb (or Flemeths power) to do so.

Spoiler

If you take the Well of Sorrows for yourself, and make an alliance with the elves in the temple, you can get access to a few codexes like 'unreadable elven text' 'untranslatable elven text', and you get partial translations after you drink the Well.  In one of them it tells the story of an elf who takes on the forms of the gods and flies in the sky, claiming it is a new creature made by ghilan'nain.  Considering how Mythal is consistently portrayed to look... dragonish, I wondered if this might shed some light into dragons and maybe the elf it describes is Fen'Harel.

[AmberLynx]

When was this said?

Spoiler

Near the end of the conversation with Flemeth, when you and Morrigan look for Kieran (OGB) in the Fade. You can hear it here from 9:05

[jellobell]

"Solas only stays if you can convince him to return to the Inquisition and atone for his crimes but it only happens if you have a high enough friendship rate."

"I think you should clarify what do you exactly mean by 'end-game' here. If it's "up to the point that the final boss is defeated, the main story is resolved and we throw a big party for our heroes" then yes, Solas will stay. If it's "any post-game or missed content after that" then no, Solas will leave the party."

 

Please, anyone. Is it true? How do you get it to happen?

Nope. He always leaves after Cory is defeated. Doesn't even show up to the party.

[ent1]

First of all, Solas doesn't kill Flemeth. He intended to save her, but he needed the orb. At least that's how I understood the epilogue.

 

What I'm not sure about is whether he was the Dread Wolf all along, or if he has become possessed by it.

 

But the thing I want to know most of all is, where is his stuff? I want his staff and his accessories back. Not that I'll use them much, but I still want them!

 

 

"Solas only stays if you can convince him to return to the Inquisition and atone for his crimes but it only happens if you have a high enough friendship rate."

"I think you should clarify what do you exactly mean by 'end-game' here. If it's "up to the point that the final boss is defeated, the main story is resolved and we throw a big party for our heroes" then yes, Solas will stay. If it's "any post-game or missed content after that" then no, Solas will leave the party."

 

Please, anyone. Is it true? How do you get it to happen?

 

I'm pretty sure all of that refers to Blackwall and not Solas. Solas is never accused of any crime.

[Darth Death]

BioWare: "Don't worry, you'll get Solas back... For a measly price of 10 bucks. See? We listen."

[mopotter]

See, Solas' romance is great and it makes the elven plot all the more interesting. I almost wish I wasn't the sort of player that picks personal canons since Now I have to decide whether his romance is worth having to play as an elf. (When I really want it to be a Qunari...)

 

See, Solas' romance is great and it makes the elven plot all the more interesting. I almost wish I wasn't the sort of player that picks personal canons since Now I have to decide whether his romance is worth having to play as an elf. (When I really want it to be a Qunari...)

So do one of each.  It's what I'm doing.  Right now I have an elf mage who will romance Solas and everything I've seen tells me it will be a good one, even if I'm not thrilled with the ending.

 

Then I will have my Qunari who will romance someone else.  I also have planned a human or elf rogue for Cullen which may end up to be my personal favorite.  But that's for the future.

[madrar]

ugh, double post.

[jellobell]

BioWare: "Don't worry, you'll get Solas back... For a measly price of 10 bucks. See? We listen."