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[RavenholmeCP42]

Nah, Soldier shep would just use disruptor ammo to defeat the shields, and then use armour piercing/inferno/cryo ammo and finish the fight (lolpun) before Master Chief had stopped flexing his muscles and realised what was going on.



And to the person who said about Spartans doing orbital drops in person - yeah, that'd be great if it was in any way remotely realistic. But it's not, MC shoulda ended up as a crispy fried splat on the landscape with 90% less mass than he entered the atmosphere with. You can't compare something that leaves realism bleeding in the gutter with something that is comparitively more realistic.

[Masterchef601]

Any Biotic Shep would wipe the floor with him. Just lift him up and throw him away.

Modifié par Masterchef601, 25 janvier 2010 - 01:34 .

[Barker673]

So no CQC? Then it all depends on the weaponry, and all of Shepard's is far superior - not to mention Shepard can carry 4 guns while Chief can only carry 2.



And if Shepard has Biotic or Tech abilities? Chief would get his butt kicked. I reckon Shepard could hold his ground against a Spartan in CQC though, N7's would have a lot of martial training. Spartan's are seemingly only trained to jump really high.

[Aradace]

Masterchef601 wrote...

Any Biotic Shep would wipe the floor with him. Just lift him up and throw him away.

Infiltrator Shep would just cloak up behind him and put the sniper rifle to Chief's head...End of story

[jsachun]

Haasth wrote...

jsachun wrote...

Haasth wrote...

RickmanUK wrote...
If on the other hand your on about a Custom Shepard... Then any Biotic would likly kick the S*** outta Master Chief...

It would require a powerful biotic to lift up a Spartan. Those are heavy.
And there's the fact that they don't take much fall damage... To be honest I think Shepard would be crushed in any battle... perhaps a very powerful Sentinel that can lift him up, disable his weaponry and shields through tech powers, and has a **** load of firepower like the Nuke gun would work... 

So are the Geths. Biotics have no trouble lifting them.

You can knock over a geth with a melee strike... I don't know, they don't seem very heavy. (Well alright, the colossus and prime versions probably are)

And a Geth doesn't survive falling from a freaking ship onto Earth! 

I thought they droped Geth Soldiers from ships all the time. Don't Halo Solidiers get droped in a pod with parachutes?

[KainrycKarr]

Halo sucks.

[AgentOfAtlas]

From an objective point of view, Shepard is basically peak-human, while Master Chief is a super-soldier cyborg with enhanced everything.

[LOLsarenLOL]

This thread just brings out all the Mass effect fanboys. Pathetic.

[jsachun]

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

From an objective point of view, Shepard is basically peak-human, while Master Chief is a super-soldier cyborg with enhanced everything.

I thought he was an adrenalin pumped genetically enhanced human with a special suit. When did he become a cyborg?

[Darth_Trethon]

shepard_lives wrote...

If he were a soldier Shep, the Chief would win. But if Shepard was a Biotic or had tech abilities then victory would be his.

You know....now that I think about it you are 100% right. But then again I haven't been shot in the head nearly enough times to think that playing as a Soldier is a good idea.

[Marlina]

jsachun wrote...

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

From an objective point of view, Shepard is basically peak-human, while Master Chief is a super-soldier cyborg with enhanced everything.

I thought he was an adrenalin pumped genetically enhanced human with a special suit. When did he become a cyborg?

He was always a cyborg. 

[Haasth]

jsachun wrote...

Haasth wrote...

jsachun wrote...

Haasth wrote...

RickmanUK wrote...
If on the other hand your on about a Custom Shepard... Then any Biotic would likly kick the S*** outta Master Chief...

It would require a powerful biotic to lift up a Spartan. Those are heavy.
And there's the fact that they don't take much fall damage... To be honest I think Shepard would be crushed in any battle... perhaps a very powerful Sentinel that can lift him up, disable his weaponry and shields through tech powers, and has a **** load of firepower like the Nuke gun would work... 

So are the Geths. Biotics have no trouble lifting them.

You can knock over a geth with a melee strike... I don't know, they don't seem very heavy. (Well alright, the colossus and prime versions probably are)

And a Geth doesn't survive falling from a freaking ship onto Earth! 

I thought they droped Geth Soldiers from ships all the time. Don't Halo Solidiers get droped in a pod with parachutes?

Well I wasn't talking about pods. They do indeed get dropped in pods in normal situations. 

You know... They should make a  game about it... make it a RTS I say. 
Space Marines, UNSC and the Alliance in an epic face-off for fake-universe-domination. 

[RickmanUK]

Marlina wrote...

jsachun wrote...

AgentOfAtlas wrote...

From an objective point of view, Shepard is basically peak-human, while Master Chief is a super-soldier cyborg with enhanced everything.

I thought he was an adrenalin pumped genetically enhanced human with a special suit. When did he become a cyborg?

He was always a cyborg. 

Correct...
http://en.wikipedia....roject#Spartans

[LOLsarenLOL]

Ok, To be even



Shepard: He's just a very god soldier put in armor With shields. No enchancements.



Master chief: Very good soldier put in armorwith shields. His body is enchanced in every way. His Strength, His vision...



MC would win.

[DPSSOC]

Soldier Shepard vs Master Chief - My money's on the Chief

Tech Shepard vs Master Chief - Sabotage + Overload MC's without weapons or shields Shepard for the win though it'd be close.

Biotic Shep vs Master Chief - Shepard

[KainrycKarr]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Halo sucks.

No, really, it does.

[RavenholmeCP42]

Mass Effect 1 Soldier Shepard: Shield Boost, Overkill/Assassination/Carnage, Adrenaline Burst, Immunity, etc
Mass Effect 2 Soldier Shepard: Adrenaline Rush, Concussive Shot, Disruptor/Cryo/Incendiary Ammo, Optical Implants

vs

Master Chief: Eh, well, I'm a genetically enhanced cyborg, lolk?

Sorry, no contest. Either game, Shepard would shoot Master Chief dead before he had worn away Shep's shields.

Totally agree Kaincry.

Modifié par RavenholmeCP42, 25 janvier 2010 - 01:45 .

[Haasth]

It's kind of like putting a special agent or special force soldier against a super soldier...
I still think that biotics won't win from Master Chief. He can probably outlast most of it until the biotic becomes exhausted.

Though we shouldn't be comparing gameplay aspects in this... a biotic can throw abilities endlessly in Mass Effect though in regular situations it would require a lot of energy and you'll most likely be tired after a short while. 

And saying Shepard would win because you hate Halo is just silly. 
That's like saying Nuclear Warheads wouldn't win from an army equipped with Assault Rifles because you think Nuclear Warheads are lame. 

Modifié par Haasth, 25 janvier 2010 - 01:47 .

[Marlina]

LOLsarenLOL wrote...

Ok, To be even

Shepard: He's just a very god soldier put in armor With shields. No enchancements.

Master chief: Very good soldier put in armorwith shields. His body is enchanced in every way. His Strength, His vision...

MC would win.

Actually, Shepard (any any other marine in the Alliance) has undergone gene therapy. It's the reason humans live till they're 150 in the MEverse. So he's definitely not your average 21th century human.

[Skalman91]

Marlina wrote...

Now, if you wanna REALLY up the ante, you pit them both against a single WH40k space marine. ^^

Can't the Space Marines take over an entire planet with a single squad consisting of like 10 troops?
I'm not really up to date with the 40K lore but I remember it was something absurd like that.

Love the 40K universe though.

[RavenholmeCP42]

Haasth wrote...

It's kind of like putting a special agent or special force soldier against a super soldier...
I still think that biotics won't win from Master Chief. He can probably outlast most of it until the biotic becomes exhausted.

How? You can lift Geth Destroyers/Juggernauts, and they definitely way more than Mrs "I'm a complete and utter
 Mary Sue" Spartan-117. Plus, singularity. Blackholes still work on master chief, I'm afraid. Warp, Throw, Lift, Stasis. All these would work on him. Biotics would wipe the floor with him and then some.

Haasth wrote...
And saying Shepard would win because you hate Halo is just silly. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]
That's
like saying Nuclear Warheads wouldn't win from an army equipped with
Assault Rifles because you think Nuclear Warheads are lame. 

Not really, 117 isn't a nuclear warhead if you read the fiction (the games make him uber to appeal to the console kiddies), at best he's an assault rifle with an extended mag and a sight, to play to your analogy. Unfortunately for him, so is Shepard (again, in the codex and fiction. Alliance Marines get gene therapy, and enhancements, and the ones included in ME2 from Project Lazarus...). And unfortunately for 117, that makes it a fair fight, and because of the tech abilities that even ordinary soldier Shepard's have (They can do everything 117 can and then some)... they'd win. SImple as that.

Modifié par RavenholmeCP42, 25 janvier 2010 - 01:51 .

[merikano]

It's called "lift". Whe fully developed you lift people into the sky and they don't come back down. I don't know if that constitutes as winning the fight but...

[Haasth]

RavenholmeCP42 wrote...

Haasth wrote...

It's kind of like putting a special agent or special force soldier against a super soldier... 
I still think that biotics won't win from Master Chief. He can probably outlast most of it until the biotic becomes exhausted.

How? You can lift Geth Destroyers/Juggernauts, and they definitely way more than Mrs "I'm a complete and utter
 Mary Sue" Spartan-117. Plus, singularity. Blackholes still work on master chief, I'm afraid. Warp, Throw, Lift, Stasis. All these would work on him. Biotics would wipe the floor with him and then some.

As I said, that's more gameplay mechanics. You won't be seeing a biotic throw all those abilities endlessly in a regular situation. 

**** it. I'm throwing the C'tan card in. Go beat that.

Modifié par Haasth, 25 janvier 2010 - 01:50 .

[KainrycKarr]

Biotics vs. bunnyhopping supersoldier.



No contest. Shepard.



Halo still sucks.

[jsachun]

Haasth wrote...

It's kind of like putting a special agent or special force soldier against a super soldier...
I still think that biotics won't win from Master Chief. He can probably outlast most of it until the biotic becomes exhausted.

Though we shouldn't be comparing gameplay aspects in this... a biotic can throw abilities endlessly in Mass Effect though in regular situations it would require a lot of energy and you'll most likely be tired after a short while. 

And saying Shepard would win because you hate Halo is just silly. 
That's like saying Nuclear Warheads wouldn't win from an army equipped with Assault Rifles because you think Nuclear Warheads are lame. 

Ah, I could kill Master Chief as an Arbiter with just the Laser Sword.

Modifié par jsachun, 25 janvier 2010 - 01:49 .