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[Cortire]

This is a civil request to EA to refrain from putting this 5 install limit on future releases.

I'm seriously (sic). Whoever came up with the idea of punishing people for paying for your product?

I've dealt with the fact that pirates play every major release days, even weeks before I as a paying customer get to. Early leaks are mostly out of control of the publisher. But this moronic limitation is a travesty against consumerism, and needs to stop existing if EA wants to see me pay for any game they release not created by Bioware.

If our internet generation had principles, and was willing to stand for what they believe in, stuff like this would have been abolished years ago, as it stands consumers are left to the greed and mercy of corporations like EA, squeezing us for every dime we have by way of idiotic installation limits.

That is all.

[Raven-sb]

The interesting thing is with both DA:Origins and ME2 the only versions that have the 5 limit activations left are the digital versions of the game. Now I'd be curious to know why that this, but personally I'm not complaining as I'd much rather get a physical copy of the game rather than a digital copy, but that's just me .

[AeonofHorus]

Steam will let me put any game on as many computers as I want all I got to do is log into my account

[Dsurian]

Steam: a true competetor when it comes to EAStores digital downloading...but like all companies, Steam has its own issues...believe me.

And, in respect to the OP, yes i agree completley with you but to think that this one lil forum post will actually make a difference is laughable.  All anti-pirating attempts made by game developers have just made the honest customers experience more difficult and hasn't really slowed down the piracy of the game...which makes its completley pointless and and yet they keep doing it.  But also, think of the MMO's...charging $15 monthly for server costs when maybe $5 would do? ...so if you were to play the game just a year, it would cost $150+ (including the cost of the game)  ...talk about abuse.  In comparison, as long as you download conservativley, a 5 limitation can easily last for as long as you need.  Now, buying digital in the first place so you dont have a hardcopy of your own that you can use whenever and re-sell whenver?...thats crazy.

Modifié par Dsurian, 25 janvier 2010 - 02:30 .

[Miriel Amarinth]

I totally agree. It wouldn't be so bad having some restrictions if they actually had any impact on piracy, but the fact is that they don't, because pirated version have those same restrictions removed.

The install limits on digital downloads makes no sense when the disc versions do not have the same restriction - it's like locking the front door of your house while leaving the back door wide open. The new DLC system introduced with DAO is just crappier than words can describe. A friend of mine still hasn't been able to download Stone Prisoner for DAO because his game won't recognize that his account has the key on it, whereas if he pirated it he could be happily playing with Shale right now.

Everything put together pirates seem to have it easier than the legitimate users, having no problems with downloads, authentication / login problems and no issues with install limits or disc checks. Still EA has a history of being a total failure when it comes to protecting their games. They're also great at finding ways to antagonize their customers instead of the pirates.

edit: Ofcourse EA isn't the only company who does this, but they just seem to be exceptionally good at it.

Modifié par Miriel Amarinth, 25 janvier 2010 - 02:40 .

[Theolos88]

Bump.



I fear that with my constant OS reinstalling, 5 installs will get me stranded without the ability 2 play in half a year.



Why cant the devs stick to "register your copy online and install the game all you want"?

[Adaram]

I didn't play ME1. I want to play ME2. I was considering just doing a digital download off the EA Store, but this limitation will likely keep me from doing that. I guess I'll just have to buy the box copy. I assume there is no 5 install limitation on that? Like someone else said, 5 times will likely limit me to about 1.5 years at most.

[Dsurian]

1) if your planning on playing it 5 times over the course of 1.5 years, dont uninstall it. 2) And really, you shouldnt need to re-install your OS nearly that often either...if your having to reinstall that often, stop corrupting the hell outa your software...

[Beerfish]

I don't think I've ever uninstalled or re-installed a game more than twice in my entire lifetime. I'm still flabbergasted at the number of people that reformat their hard drives every 3 months. I know i may be lax in keeping my computer totally clean and well organized but it just surprises me that these install limits are that much of an issue.

[megapatato]

Actually, the EA store FAQ says something about being able to unregister a game from a machine so as to be able to register it in another. So if you had it registered in your past 5 iterations of OS, computer, VideoCard, or whatever, you *should* be able to unregister it from one of those (or all) and then register it on the new one. Thus extending the "legally usable" game across more than 5 devices overall. Nonetheless, that is a BIG "should" that is solely at EA's discretion...



Moreover, I agree this anti-piracy features are more of game anti-features (I still hate DA:O for the in-game salesman...). I won't pay EA for a game I won't have a physical copy of, and that only exists on EA's online servers. If memory serves me right, EA was one of the hardest hit companies in the financial mayhem of Q1 2009...

[Tirigon]

Such things will stop soon enough if the companies finally realize that they are not stopping but encouraging piracy with sh*t like that.

[hansolo1999]

so if i buy the boxed version, i have unlimited installs and no securom on it?

[mcneil_1]

I thought bioware said that no versions of DAO and ME2 had limitations, only ME1 in any pc version had securom in it (and as I found out last night the ME1 dlc as well).

[Kloreep]

ME1 retail, and some Direct Downloads, uses SecuROM activations with a lifetime limit of 5. Activations can be deauthenticated and reused with the EA download tool.

ME1 through Steam (and perhaps some other Direct Downloads?) uses the service's DRM only.

ME1 DLC uses SecuROM activations with a lifetime limit of 5. The deauthentication tool does not work with them, so if you reach the limit you better hope EA Customer Support comes through for you, or you are SOL.



ME2 retail uses a disk check.

ME2 through direct download services has been somewhat haphazardly defined, but it seems the Steam version uses Steam DRM only, while other services will use EA's own activation system that only permits 5 different computers to be authenticated in a 24-hour period. (Note the change from "forever" to "24 hour period." Apparently someone at EA actually bothered to think their policy through.)

ME2 DLC DRM has not been defined, but it seems it will be run pretty much like Dragon Age DLC.

[Raven-sb]

Just a quick note to those that can't understand why these limitations are a problem. For some they may be find, but for other's like myself, who update their Machine with new hardware and muck around with OS's, etc, you run into the activation limit very fast.

[Saskuatch]

I totally i agree in the past year I went from windows xp, ubuntu, vista, windows 7 RC, to windows 7, and I have both a laptop and a desktop, good thing I bough tthe steam version

[mcneil_1]

Raven-sb wrote...

Just a quick note to those that can't understand why these limitations are a problem. For some they may be find, but for other's like myself, who update their Machine with new hardware and muck around with OS's, etc, you run into the activation limit very fast.

I agree, I just wish the ea revoker or the bioware patch 1.02 would revoke the dlc activations.

[DFM2005]

I don't understand why they bother putting those protection bull craps on it in the first place. It's like putting a big label on the box that says hack me.



If someone want's the product bad enough and they don't want to pay for it or can't afford it they will write a script for it lol.



I can't understand what the difference is, from the downloaded version of this game and the little downloads that require me to login to my account every single time.



It should only ask me to login once then be done with it just like the DLC of the game.

[xThunderblazex]

You can deauthorize a computer..are you saying you really need ME2 installed on 5 different machines at once?