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I haven't even played DA: I yet I seem to be getting far more entertained in reading the negative comments about this game on various of forums and review sites; Here, metacritic, amazon,etc. They're all so amusing to me. Is it because I'm an anti social-pathetic? Or is it because people had forgotten that games comes with future patches?

 

Look at history patches from Dragon Age

https://social.biowa...page/da-patches

 

Look at history patches from Dragon Age 2

https://social.biowa...age/da2-patches

 

Every time I see a complainer (knowing that theirs going to be a patch available soon to fix all of these glitches and bugs) I think of Coach Red Beaulieu from waterboy.

 

waterboy-baby-head-o.gif

Sometimes you need to visualize something funny about them.

 

 

So my suggestion to all is..... BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THOSE PATCHES TO ARRIVE!


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"Sometimes it takes an upgrade or two to make things right" :D

 

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Flagged thread as trolling. Not appropriate for this forum section, please lock it.


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Flagged thread as trolling. Not appropriate for this forum section, please lock it.

 

How is it trolling? I'm simply suggesting that people be patient for future patches.



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OK, Arron Rodgers...



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I understand what you're saying, but why is this what we've come to expect and accept?  I wouldn't mind waiting for them to iron out the bugs.  They used to release demos way back when to pick up on bugs.  Now they just push glitchy games out and patch things later.  That's not how QA works.


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I don't see how this is relevant to the Off-Topic section.


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People shouldn't have to wait for ****** patches. What happened to QA testing?


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Go play Assassin's Creed Unity.


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Read up at Bungie.net. 

 

You'll find constant moaning and groaning. 


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I am enjoying the people complaining about the complainers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I haven't even played DA: I yet I seem to be getting far more entertained in reading the negative comments about this game on various of forums and review sites; Here, metacritic, amazon,etc. They're all so amusing to me. Is it because I'm an anti social-pathetic? Or is it because people had forgotten that games comes with future patches?

 

Look at history patches from Dragon Age

https://social.biowa...page/da-patches

 

Look at history patches from Dragon Age 2

https://social.biowa...age/da2-patches

 

Every time I see a complainer (knowing that theirs going to be a patch available soon to fix all of these glitches and bugs) I think of Coach Red Beaulieu from waterboy.

 

waterboy-baby-head-o.gif

Sometimes you need to visualize something funny about them.

 

 

So my suggestion to all is..... BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THOSE PATCHES TO ARRIVE!

 

 

They have a right to complain.. I am tired of writing this but the fact is that it is close to impossible or even impossible to have a large software product within a 2-3 year development cycle that won't give you any bugs. It is just not realistic but there is only so much testing you can do.

 

Now, this does not mean that a company should handle their software ridiculously and just publish any broken thing out(not to say that dragon age is broken cause that would be stretching it) but you have to encounter for the bugs that are published with your software.

 

1.Severity

How critical are the known bugs? Do they break the system? Are there almost unrecognizable? Is it a low priority issue that can be fixed with a small change of an if statement?

2.Frequency

How many bugs are you publishing your system with? Even though these are minor bug, are the spread so much throughout the system that they bother the consumer?

3.Ease Of Fix

How easy is it to fix these bugs? Are they complex? Do they need a system wide change?

4.Time and Project Management

From a project management standpoint at times there is just not much time to encounter for some of these bugs. This basically means after deployment, the project will go into a maintenance phase and the company will patch the product after launch. Very controversial but some companies purposely publish software with bugs and leave it up to the users to find these bugs that they would later fix. Very effective for open source software.

 

Now, bioware probably did not have time to encounter every bug because in scope this is a huge system. The amount of external mechanisms working together in this project seems larger than usual. This however does not mean the consumer has no right to criticize bioware for their current bug problem. They have every right to because the consumer is expecting a polished product. Frankly,  video game companies handle bugs terribly in my opinion. There is no direct conversation with the consumer in COTS(commercial off the shelf software). Different to other sell models that keep the consumer updated and on the development of the software being built. The consumer usually knows what to expect in these kind of models.

 

At average this product has a lot of bugs, which can be frustrating but I really like the product .I am not willing to give them the benefit of doubt but ignore the bugs because I want to complete the game.

 

Now, if this game somehow involves a game breaking bug at the end of it. It would make their bugs inexcusable.


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it amuses me when people believe a game can be tested on every possible PC configuration out there



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I haven't even played DA: I yet I seem to be getting far more entertained in reading the negative comments about this game on various of forums and review sites; Here, metacritic, amazon,etc. They're all so amusing to me. Is it because I'm an anti social-pathetic? Or is it because people had forgotten that games comes with future patches?

 

Look at history patches from Dragon Age

https://social.biowa...page/da-patches

 

Look at history patches from Dragon Age 2

https://social.biowa...age/da2-patches

 

Every time I see a complainer (knowing that theirs going to be a patch available soon to fix all of these glitches and bugs) I think of Coach Red Beaulieu from waterboy.

 

waterboy-baby-head-o.gif

Sometimes you need to visualize something funny about them.

 

 

So my suggestion to all is..... BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THOSE PATCHES TO ARRIVE!

no youre definitely pathetic. Stop whining and take the rosecolored sunglasses off.



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People shouldn't have to wait for ****** patches. What happened to QA testing?

 

Need to pay $14.99 extra to get the QA DLC


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They have a right to complain.. I am tired of writing this but the fact is that it is close to impossible or even impossible to have a large software product within a 2-3 year development cycle that won't give you any bugs. It is just not realistic but there is only so much testing you can do.

 

Now, this does not mean that a company should handle their software ridiculously and just publish any broken thing out(not to say that dragon age is broken cause that would be stretching it) but you have to encounter for the bugs that are published with your software.

 

1.Severity

How critical are the known bugs? Do they break the system? Are there almost unrecognizable? Is it a low priority issue that can be fixed with a small change of an if statement?

2.Frequency

How many bugs are you publishing your system with? Even though these are minor bug, are the spread so much throughout the system that they bother the consumer?

3.Ease Of Fix

How easy is it to fix these bugs? Are they complex? Do they need a system wide change?

4.Time and Project Management

From a project management standpoint at times there is just not much time to encounter for some of these bugs. This basically means after deployment, the project will go into a maintenance phase and the company will patch the product after launch. Very controversial but some companies purposely publish software with bugs and leave it up to the users to find these bugs that they would later fix. Very effective for open source software.

 

Now, bioware probably did not have time to encounter every bug because in scope this is a huge system. The amount of external mechanisms working together in this project seems larger than usual. This however does not mean the consumer has no right to criticize bioware for their current bug problem. They have every right to because the consumer is expecting a polished product. Frankly,  video game companies handle bugs terribly in my opinion. There is no direct conversation with the consumer in COTS(commercial off the shelf software). Different to other sell models that keep the consumer updated and on the development of the software being built. The consumer usually knows what to expect in these kind of models.

 

At average this product has a lot of bugs, which can be frustrating but I really like the product .I am not willing to give them the benefit of doubt but ignore the bugs because I want to complete the game.

 

Now, if this game somehow involves a game breaking bug at the end of it. It would make their bugs inexcusable.

Nerd. That is all. Nah, great points though


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games great!



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I don't see how this is relevant to the Off-Topic section.

 

I think it was moved here.

 

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lol fanboys  !  :lol:  i learned long ago to never take anything they say seriously.

 

Already watched the whole game and man it have some serious issues, both technical and and in game.

 

Just saying, it's nothing wrong with complaining, it showns you care about the product and want it to be as good as it can but when a game have crappy secondary drms, lots of bugs for some apparently and bad optimizations ofc you going to hear complaints or maybe internet isn't the place for you. i don't know.

 

no complaint=no fixes that's why you shouldn't only stay silent, i don't agree with whining and complaints just for the sake of being unpleasant and spread hate on someones work but when it clearly have a lot of issues you should atleast bring it to the developers attention by letting them know that this isn't ok.

 

It also get worse since 50% of the AAA games are releases are buggy and often broken messes, Lords of the Fallen and AC Unity is just 2 out of a long, long list of games that shouldn't have been released in their current states and gamers are beginning to be fed up with the ****.


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Buggy game #5182.

Nothing new to see here. Move along citizen.


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Be careful on what you say.

 

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I'm indifferent.

 

So many games get released every year that are so full of bugs it should be expected to happen.

 

The days of "oh I'm going to play this fully operational, bug-free video game" are over.

 

As long as stuff isn't game breaking and it's stuff like "oh look at Cassandra tripping balls inside a wall" then it's fine. I can reload and get her out or she'll just glitch out in the end anyway.

 

Still, I guess bugs vary and people get worse sh*t than glitching.

 

So yeah.

 

I'm still indifferent.



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I've never been one to really notice or care about bugs, but I don't think telling people who do to shut up and get over it is going to help either. Considering the wide range of things that actually happen in the programming of the game, I would be surprised if there were never bugs. Some people don't see it that way. Doesn't mean they are lesser people than I am. It makes them annoyed, and sites like this are literally one of the few places they can talk about it at where people will understand what they are talking about and why it's significant. If they aren't going to complain about it here or online retailers, then where exactly are they supposed to do it?

 

 

What I'm basically saying is YMMV, and this site isn't built to cater to just one type of person...or at least one type of person won't be the only type here.



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Rule #82 (made 11/21/2014):

 

Don't talk about bugs or you will be smashed by banhammer!



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This is news to me. I haven't left off-topic in months.