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[Rynjin]

Really not sure what you mean by this.

 

So as a PC gamer you're not used to driver and compatability issues?  Hot-fixes are an alien concept, and every release is butter smooth?

 

Either you're not an avid PC gamer or you've erased those memories, because every PC gamer knows this is the norm, not outside the norm.

 

Many of the larger issues are not simply driver or compatibility issues.

 

The extremely common main menu freezing, for instance.

 

A particular problem I ran into where all the non-rocky terrain stopped working and I simply fall through it, making the game unplayable, is not simply a driver or compatibility issue.

 

I have NEVER had two game breaking problems with a new release before, on top of myriad other minor problems (odd stuttering in cutscenes being my main gripe there, dialogue half repeating itself is very jarring to me). Not even Fallout: New Vegas was that bad, and for AAA releases that set the gold standard for a while.

[Lebanese Dude]

Entitled brats.

[cactusberry]

Of course people are going to complain when they can't comfortably play something they love... If you don't play on PC, it's not your place to say PC users are "whining" over nothing, because you haven't experienced the problems firsthand. 

I'm playing on PC but I'm using a controller so I haven't really had a lot of the problems other people are having. I like using a controller anyway.

[AshesEleven]

Many of the larger issues are not simply driver or compatibility issues.

 

The extremely common main menu freezing, for instance.

 

A particular problem I ran into where all the non-rocky terrain stopped working and I simply fall through it, making the game unplayable, is not simply a driver or compatibility issue.

 

I have NEVER had two game breaking problems with a new release before, on top of myriad other minor problems (odd stuttering in cutscenes being my main grip, dialogue half repeating itself is very jarring to me). Not even Fallout: New Vegas was that bad, and for AAA releases that set the gold standard for a while.

 

I wonder what it is causing these issues.  I'm not a PC expert by any means, and so far I have not encountered any freezing.  My game lagged a bit in Haven, but otherwise it's fine.  Why is it that you can't play the game and I can?  Genuinely hoping you can enlighten me, like I said I don't know much about this.  

[Itkovian]

I'm on PC and I have no problem with keyboard and mouse controls. I just had to get used to it and rebind some stuff.

 

I guess I'm just weird or something.

 

Same here, no problem at all.

 

Really, all I can think of is people are expecting DAO controls. But they are very different, both in Action Mode and Tactical Cam... but they're still completely viable, just different.

 

People say to switch to a controller, but that's just depriving yourself of the better controls you get with a mouse. Once you actually learn the PC controls as they're meant to be used (instead of trying to play DAO again), they're definitely better than with a controller. For example, I can do things with the tactical cam, and the ability to highlight and give orders with my mouse, that simply cannot be done with a controller.

 

Here's a few tips:

 

- Use the F key! It allows you to interact with what's close without having to mouseclick. Very useful. Very.

 

- Double click on a spot to order someone to Hold Position in Tac Cam. Very useful for ranged fighters.

 

- The Action Cam mode is NOT the DA2 control scheme. It's a mode where you take direct control of the character, much like games like Assasin's Creed or Fable. The moment you switch to a character in Action Mode, you override the AI. It will only move or do things you directly order it to do. If you want to just observe what someone is doing, do it in Tac Cam mode (double pressing the F1-4 keys will snap the camera to the appropriate party member).

 

- Rebind the Tactical Camera keys so A and D are moving the camera sideways instead of turning (you're turning with the mouse by holding the right mouse button, right?).

 

- Holding SHIFT will make mouse movement pan the camera (if you don't feel like using WASD for some reason).

 

The controls are good, you just need to remember you're playing a new game with new controls. Complaining about the things it lacks compared to DAO is silly, if at the same time you ignore all the new features that make it a new game in the first place.

[Dragoonlordz]

You do have every right.  In fact, you have an open invite to such.  They made a sub-forum for those kind of posts.  I'm just saying i'm embarrassed to be part of both PC and console community these days.

 

Being a gamer used to mean you were smart and a problem-solver.  Today it seems to mean you're entitled and think everything is a conspiracy to get you.

 

Being a gamer never meant that. Being a gamer simply means enjoy playing games. Some will enjoy and some will not, some work well and some do not. Those that do not should be fixed, first by going to the developer and hoping they fix it and if they don't only then having to resolve it ourselves.

[Rynjin]

I wonder what it is causing these issues.  I'm not a PC expert by any means, and so far I have not encountered any freezing.  My game lagged a bit in Haven, but otherwise it's fine.  Why is it that you can't play the game and I can?  Genuinely hoping you can enlighten me, like I said I don't know much about this.  

 

Hell if I know. The game itself runs smooth as silk, until suddenly I hit another roadblock. The main menu freezing seems to be a common problem, though I have no idea what causes it.

 

The terrain thing, near as I can tell, is unique to me so far, since nobody has commented on the tech support thread I made about it. I uninstalled and reinstalled, so maybe that will fix it somehow.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

So we cannot say anything against a product we paid quite a lot of money for but does not work very well and is not what it was promised by the developers ? 

 

This is not 1984, this is 2014. People can say what they want to say, especially if they have plenty of well documented reasons to say it. 

 

PC gamers call themselves Master Race because we have far superior hardware than consoles. It like us being Reapers and Consoles being Geth.

 

Sadly, Bioware is favoring consoles so that means game mechanics get dumbed down to your level. 

 

Reapers do not like being dumbed down to the levels of Geth or be forced to use a defective product that is not capable of making full use of their far capabilities. 

 

[Munktor]

Many of the larger issues are not simply driver or compatibility issues.

 

The extremely common main menu freezing, for instance.

 

A particular problem I ran into where all the non-rocky terrain stopped working and I simply fall through it, making the game unplayable, is not simply a driver or compatibility issue.

 

I have NEVER had two game breaking problems with a new release before, on top of myriad other minor problems (odd stuttering in cutscenes being my main grip, dialogue half repeating itself is very jarring to me). Not even Fallout: New Vegas was that bad, and for AAA releases that set the gold standard for a while.

 

To that I can agree.  To a degree.

 

Again, as someone that has been gaming a long time I just assume it comes with the territory.  I've never have a perfectly smooth PC game release (except Heroes of M&M games for some reason) and even those had their quirks if you will.

 

I don't claim to be a PC gamer.  I don't claim to be a console gamer.

 

I'm a gamer.  I play table-top D&D.  I play video-games.  I even have been known to just pick up a toy sword and play sword-fighting with a young cousin at a family BBQ.  But what I don't do is assume people that make money off of selling games intentionally try and hurt the consumer that literally is the hand that feeds.

 

The sheer number of possible configurations and specifications the PC can offer is hard to optimize for.  1 console with a pre-packeted developer kit isn't.  Consoles are as powerful as mid-range gaming PC's these days.  It'd be foolish to say otherwise, and just arrogant to believe you couldn't have a good experience on one.  But this is why I choose to game multi-platform instead of ascribing to just one.

 

The point of this thread though was:

A) Wow, I used to think pretty highly of gamers in general...

Take it to the tech support forum

C) LOL - Bioware isn't purposefully making the game not work for you