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How hard is the "Hard" difficulty?


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Majestic Jazz

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I know that normal mode is supposed to be a bit harder than normal modes in previous DA games, but what about hard mode?

When I get home tonight, I will start my first playthrough but I do not know if I should start with normal or hard. I want to start on Hard mode first for the challenge.

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You can change difficulty at any time, so you might as well start with hard and then if you get too frustrated you can move it down later.



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Scelous

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Normal was mentioned to be pretty easy by Gamespot and other reviewers.  I started out on Hard, and it's been pretty challenging.  I'm happy with the difficulty.



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The way I would describe it is this:

  • Hard provides a good challenge.
  • Nightmare is the real hard mode.


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I haven't faced a party wipe on Hard yet, from what I can tell I play differently than most people though.  I completely turned party AI off and don't let them do **** I don't tell them to do.


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samuelkaine

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Had a couple of wipes on Hard but they've been from me wandering into areas I shouldn't and not being able to escape rather than the difficulty itself. It's been a good challenge.



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I'm having loads of fun on Nightmare, but I enjoy paused tac-cam play, and I know that's not everyone's bag of cats. I haven't tried anything lower than that, so I have no idea how they compare.

Also, remember that friendly fire is a separate toggle now. With friendly fire on, I expect even Normal mode has significantly more challenge than the reviewers were seeing. Although, again, I haven't played without FF (because FF is rad), so I could be speaking out of my butt. :D

The challenge also depends pretty heavily on how long you spend adventuring between potion restocks. It isn't about just surviving a single fight, it's more about "how many fights can you handle between refills?"

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Hard provides a good challenge.

Nightmare is just plain dumb. The run of the mill enemy will rofle-rape you if you aren't paying attention. And don't ever be under leveled for anything.
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I think the best difficulty depends on how much time and energy you want to invest in combat. If you want to play real-time as much as possible and don't want to take control of other people, then normal is a good challenge. If you like to pause and plan every combat, utilize potions and bombs, and maybe even take control of other characters development then hard is a good way to go. If you want to take control of everything, give orders to everybody, and fully control their level-ups, maximize everyone's equipment, and play for as much synergy as possible then you may need nightmare to be really challenged.

I play normal because I want as much action in combat as possible, and it is hard enough for me. I don't bother crafting gear for my teammates until it noticeably lags, and I don't go out of my way to farm for resources for crafting. I auto-level every NPC. I haven't gotten in to the bombs and tonics at all. I feel normal was made for people like me, and I have been wiped a dozen times maybe. It is pretty much spot on a tough challenge for me.

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Hard isn't too tough if you're familiar with this sort of RPG combat and prepared to look after your whole party rather than just controlling the PC and forgetting everyone else.

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I actually found normal to be much easier than the normal in both previous games. I never once completely wiped in my 30+ hours so far. In other games I did it several times.



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The way I would describe it is this:

  • Hard provides a good challenge.
  • Nightmare is the real hard mode.

 

 

I agree. If you consider yourself a skilled player, Hard is "Reasonable" and Nightmare can be "Hard."



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I'm 36 hours in and would also like to throw out there that Normal = Easy as far as I can tell.  I've not only never wiped, I've only had one character ever fall unconscious.  It kind of freaked me out as I had to figure out how that whole revive thing works. 

 

There have been some hard fights but that is usually because I wandered in to some place where I was underleveled.  If that is the case I just leave and come back later.

 

I would say go with Hard, especially if you aren't afraid of a little bit of micro management.  I'm playing on Normal myself as this is just my main 'story' run through and I wanted to have a pretty relaxed time with a couple hard fights.  I'll bump it up to Hard on my next playthrough when I know how everything works.



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I been playing on hard and i find it satisfying and not at all annoying so far at least, now i tried Nightmare and is really brutal.



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I actually found normal to be much easier than the normal in both previous games. I never once completely wiped in my 30+ hours so far. In other games I did it several times.

 

Only time I wiped was in the prologue against the Pride Demon, but yeah other than that, Normal mode has been a cinch so far.  



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I haven't faced a party wipe on Hard yet, from what I can tell I play differently than most people though.  I completely turned party AI off and don't let them do **** I don't tell them to do.

i have the exact same experience



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I find nightmare more than manageable. Just geez... I like to preprepare myself with grinding and quests and whatever else. I find it interesting tbh because it forces me to think critically rather than amble about whimsily to get anything and eveyrhting done.

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I've been playing on Normal, and unless I'm underleveled, I've never died. I'm not even using tactical mode; I'm playing it DAII style and just hitting stuff with the occasional tactic thrown in. If you plan on using tactical mode and are actually looking for a challenge in combat, I say go Hard.



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Have been playing the solo game on Nightmare; only one encounter thus far has presented a real problem at 4-5th Lvl. However, DA-MP seems to be much harder for higher settings based on some vids I have watched.

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A little tough at first, but you get used to it. It feels just right for me.



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I've seen a let's play where the guy is playing on Hard, and it seems to be significantly easier than Nightmare, which I'm playing on. Enemies on Hard have roughly 15-20% less health than those on Nightmare it seems to me.

The guy was able to pretty much just control his main character in Hinterlands, which is quite hard to do on Nightmare, even at the very beginning. I advise you to start on Hard - the first few hours are easy anyway - and if you start struggling later, you can always reduce difficulty.

 

If you have no experience with Nightmare in previous DA games, I'd advise you to not start on Nightmare though.

 

Remember that scaling is limited in this game - so you can easily encounter enemies twice your level, which you have almost no chance of beating, during wandering around the map.

 

Have been playing the solo game on Nightmare; only one encounter thus far has presented a real problem at 4-5th Lvl. However, DA-MP seems to be much harder for higher settings based on some vids I have watched.

Solo game... Damn you must be good. 



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I've seen a let's play where the guy is playing on Hard, and it seems to be significantly easier than Nightmare, which I'm playing on. Enemies on Hard have roughly 15-20% less health than those on Nightmare it seems to me.

The guy was able to pretty much just control his main character in Hinterlands, which is quite hard to do on Nightmare, even at the very beginning. I advise you to start on Hard - the first few hours are easy anyway - and if you start struggling later, you can always reduce difficulty.

 

If you have no experience with Nightmare in previous DA games, I'd advise you to not start on Nightmare though.

 

Remember that scaling is limited in this game - so you can easily encounter enemies twice your level, which you have almost no chance of beating, during wandering around the map.

 

Yeah, I'll admit it's not so hard that you need to switch characters much. It's pretty straightforward. The only difficulty is that you'll take more of a beating/have to replenish health more often than normal. It's enough of a nuisance that I wouldn't call it easy or mindless, per se. 



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Really depends on how good you are at these games.

 

Some people are claiming casual is too hard so...it's pretty subjective.

 

I'm playing on hard and feeling it's a decent challenge.



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I know that normal mode is supposed to be a bit harder than normal modes in previous DA games, but what about hard mode?

Depends whether you have friendly fire on. With it off there isn't that much difficulty, but if it's on you can expect your dumb party to murder themselves over and over, because apparently no one in charge of combat/AI thought it'd make a tiny bit of sense to make the characters check what's going to be affected by their attacks. So you can expect either endless frustration or babysitting everyone after you prohibit them to ever touch these skills in the "new, improved" tactics screen.