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[Ferocious7]

Actually using a gamepad is a very smooth experience in this game.  Sure Keyboard & Mouse need work, however using an XB1 controller on my PC has improved my experience with this game greatly THANKS to it being so smooth.

[dailyminerals]

I found the PC controls to have too much of a learning curve at first, so I just hooked up my PS3 controller to my PC and used Motionjoy to turn it into a PC Xbox controller. Problem solved. And now the game is amazing. It irritates me that a person would use language to suggest that the game is totally "ruined" by the PC controls. That's a little overblown. I don't mean to sound like an a**hole, but learn to adapt, otherwise you'll be missing out on a great game.

[voteDC]

I found the PC controls to have too much of a learning curve at first, so I just hooked up my PS3 controller to my PC and used Motionjoy to turn it into a PC Xbox controller. Problem solved. And now the game is amazing. It irritates me that a person would use language to suggest that the game is totally "ruined" by the PC controls. That's a little overblown. I don't mean to sound like an a**hole, but learn to adapt, otherwise you'll be missing out on a great game.

The thing is if I wanted a console experience by playing with a controller I would have bought it for either my Xbox 360 or Xbox One. I don't have to adapt because I own a console.

I also own a PC and it is not unreasonable for me to expect a game released on it to actually have good PC controls. We know Bioware can do it, so why have they failed to do so in Inquisition.

[robotnist]

Are you going with the "everyone on consoles is a casual" thing?

 

I can't really speak for the Keyboard and Mouse controls considering I don't play Inquisition on PC, but using a controller is in no way clunky. Sorry if your preferred method is clunky, they should fix it soon so everyone can play it properly

this is a great point, somehow, people are lumping a control setting in and substituting it for whole consoles!!!???!!! why is it unheard of to buy//use a ctonroller at least 30-50% of PC gamers already have, like the PS4's DS4, or the xbox 360 wired or the new XB1 controller? i LOVE using my cotnroller on PC. in fact, i think the best combo would be controller + PC version of DAI!!!!

[Geth Supremacy]

We, uh console peasants are sorry for existing and ruining your gaming experience and stuff.

I'm not...I think its hilarious.  Either get on the bus or get the hell out of the race.  If its nothing but a disappointment to you then why not find a new hobby?  W/e to each their own, but FYI no matter what you say on here....when you drop that money and go buy those games you hate to much, you just gave your approval for what they're doing and are contributing first hand to what you're so mad at "console peasants" for.....gg

[LegendaryBlade]

My only issue with consoles is that they hold the benchmark back. So really whenever we get a game we're using 7 year old technology, there's a whole level of fidelity that we wont ever see in most games due to Consoles. There are rare exceptions like Star Citizen but even that wont be out for another two years. I don't think that people who main consoles realize how weak they are in tech, even the current gen. That said I still have a PS4 to use it for console games like Infamous Second Son and all.

[bEVEsthda]

I found the PC controls to have too much of a learning curve at first, so I just hooked up my PS3 controller to my PC and used Motionjoy to turn it into a PC Xbox controller. Problem solved. And now the game is amazing. It irritates me that a person would use language to suggest that the game is totally "ruined" by the PC controls. That's a little overblown. I don't mean to sound like an a**hole, but learn to adapt, otherwise you'll be missing out on a great game.

 

Well, or it could be that you don't quite understand the person's problem.

I've had the impression that it will be a great game for a long time. I've been much more unsure if DA:I will be a game that I want.

Then I didn't consider DA2 "bad" either. But I didn't like DA2. I didn't want DA2. I hated DA2.

 

 And also, for RPG, I don't want any game that is to be played with a controller. There are lots of 'great' games around. Most of them are irrelevant to me because I do not want to play them.

In this case, I could play Skyrim with M&KB, so maybe. But Skyrim is not a party game but a first person game that adheres to FPS which I'm very familiar with.

Whatever, I won't connect a controller, so I won't "adapt" that way.

[SpiritMuse]

My only issue with consoles is that they hold the benchmark back. So really whenever we get a game we're using 7 year old technology, there's a whole level of fidelity that we wont ever see in most games due to Consoles. There are rare exceptions like Star Citizen but even that wont be out for another two years. I don't think that people who main consoles realize how weak they are in tech, even the current gen. That said I still have a PS4 to use it for console games like Infamous Second Son and all.

I wonder though how many PC users actually have a gaming rig of that level. The newer tech is, the more expensive, exponentially so, and not everyone can and wants to spend that kind of money on it. Is it really cost-effective to spend time developing for that level of tech if only a few can have the full effect? If you have to "dumb it down" for lesser rigs anyway?

[LegendaryBlade]

I wonder though how many PC users actually have a gaming rig of that level. The newer tech is, the more expensive, exponentially so, and not everyone can and wants to spend that kind of money on it. Is it really cost-effective to spend time developing for that level of tech if only a few can have the full effect? If you have to "dumb it down" for lesser rigs anyway?

The investment in a PC, in the long term, is a lot cheaper. There's no proprietary hardware you have to get and there is certainly no PSN+ or XboX Live fee you have to pay for multiplayer. Not to mention that for the 500 dollar price of a console, you can build a PC with 12 gigs of ram, probably a nice Radeon video card, and a quad core processor. 

 

Really when I find out I had to pay to play multiplayer on consoles I almost returned mt PS4. Unfortunately i'm a super hero fan boy and just have to be able to play Second Son.

[DemGeth]

The investment in a PC, in the long term, is a lot cheaper. There's no proprietary hardware you have to get and there is certainly no PSN+ or XboX Live fee you have to pay for multiplayer. Not to mention that for the 500 dollar price of a console, you can build a PC with 12 gigs of ram, probably a nice Radeon video card, and a quad core processor. 

 

Really when I find out I had to pay to play multiplayer on consoles I almost returned mt PS4. Unfortunately i'm a super hero fan boy and just have to be able to play Second Son.

And there's the issue that you already are going to own a computer anyway.  Even a cheapo gonna be 400-500.  So really you're only spending another 400 or so to have a gamnig pc if you build it.  

 

It's a lot cheaper in my opinion. I do miss Halo though hehe.

[DemGeth]

I wonder though how many PC users actually have a gaming rig of that level. The newer tech is, the more expensive, exponentially so, and not everyone can and wants to spend that kind of money on it. Is it really cost-effective to spend time developing for that level of tech if only a few can have the full effect? If you have to "dumb it down" for lesser rigs anyway?

A lot.  You'd be surprised how many people have multiple 600-700 dollar cards and play at 4k or 3 screens.  And those guys tend to be the ones that buy things lol.

 

Me I'm happy with 1 screen at a high rezz and updating infrequently.  Think my only upgrade since I built a few years ago was to throw in a small ssd for the OS when they dropped in price.  

[robertthebard]

I'm not...I think its hilarious.  Either get on the bus or get the hell out of the race.  If its nothing but a disappointment to you then why not find a new hobby?  W/e to each their own, but FYI no matter what you say on here....when you drop that money and go buy those games you hate to much, you just gave your approval for what they're doing and are contributing first hand to what you're so mad at "console peasants" for.....gg

In my opinion, the "console peasants" should just go back to Mario Kart. Sorry, that's been floating in my head ever since I opened this thread. I remember when having an Atari system, and playing Pong was what all the cool kids were doing. The problem is, technology has come a long way since then.

[Lee T]

The investment in a PC, in the long term, is a lot cheaper. There's no proprietary hardware you have to get and there is certainly no PSN+ or XboX Live fee you have to pay for multiplayer. Not to mention that for the 500 dollar price of a console, you can build a PC with 12 gigs of ram, probably a nice Radeon video card, and a quad core processor. 
 
Really when I find out I had to pay to play multiplayer on consoles I almost returned mt PS4. Unfortunately i'm a super hero fan boy and just have to be able to play Second Son.

I disagree, back in my PC gaming day I spent up to 500€ a year to keep up to date. Buying a console has been a huge relief on my gaming budget. The graphics arent top notch and there's no good RTS to speak for but it's good enough.

[Olddog56]

As a PC gamer I think its ridiculous to throw the baby out with the bathwater/cut your nose off to spite your face....because the pc interface is lacking.

 

Hey there are tons of forgettable PC games with great PC controls, do you want to play them over DAI?

 

All I know is the game works well with a 20 dollar or less controller on my PC and I'm having a ball!

[ent1]

I blame it on all the complaining about DA2. For all the problems that game had, the combat was pretty great. In DA:I, everything but the combat is great.

[robmokron]

In my opinion, the "console peasants" should just go back to Mario Kart. Sorry, that's been floating in my head ever since I opened this thread. I remember when having an Atari system, and playing Pong was what all the cool kids were doing. The problem is, technology has come a long way since then.

unfortuenatly for you if consoles were to dissapear right now, that would be a huge cost to profits to developers meanign they would have less money to make the games you want. Mobile Gaming would win the world.

[st0ra]

Bioware has always been a name I trusted for making good PC games, not any more... they're just another lazy console porting company now.

[ahtf]

The controlls are for sure not perfect. But most of the strange choices i got used to. So now the controls feels quite ok, still some things thay annoys me, but its far from ruining my game.

[robmokron]

Bioware has always been a name I trusted for making good PC games, not any more... they're just another lazy console porting company now.

thats a shame because the game is still good.

[Sylentmana]

Because they took a great and complicated game and over simplified aspects of it to cater to the mass market whose gaming platforms only have a tiny amount of keys to use. Instead of making the controls and UI detailed and respectible on PC, they keep them (for the most part) the same and as a result truly terrible. See the difference between Skyrim default interface and SkyUI mod, to see what modders can do for free what a company we paid to make this game. The difference is night and day.

 

Im sorry but if you cant see how overly simplified some of this games aspects became thanks to consoles, you arent looking hard enough. Lets take for example the Potions research window. when I open it up on my PC on a 55' inch tv using a controller. I see two potions listed I then have to scoll to see the other two I have. WTH?!!! Why does the writing need to be soooooooo huge (much larger than the tool tips on loading screens), why cant you have the writing smaller and have the full list instead. It is pure madness. Skyrim made those type of mistakes and thats like three years old now.

 

PC gamers for far too long have been paying the same amount for sum par experiences, we get upset when its things like Dragon Age. Because we can see how many features have been stripped.

You've missed the point of my post. I wasn't attacking the claim that the PC version of the game is unacceptable. I was pointing out the arrogance of accusing consoles (and console players) of ruining the PC experience. An experience that Bioware should have crafted as carefully as they did the console.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

It has now been:

0

days since a PC player blamed everything they don't like on console players.

 

Some day, we'll get that number above 0. Maybe.

 

But probably not.

[Natureguy85]

You've missed the point of my post. I wasn't attacking the claim that the PC version of the game is unacceptable. I was pointing out the arrogance of accusing consoles (and console players) of ruining the PC experience. An experience that Bioware should have crafted as carefully as they did the console.

 

 

It has now been:

0

days since a PC player blamed everything they don't like on console players.

 

Some day, we'll get that number above 0. Maybe.

 

But probably not.

 

Right or wrong, the OP didn't blame players, he blamed the hardware and developers' choice to tailor their development for those platforms. Stop whining like you've been personally attacked.

[Zoltansbeard]

Well OP the whole "Consoles ruined my Gamer life" is kinda boring..

 

you are right to a certain degree but you are also around 9 years late... it began with the huge masses both Xbox360 and Ps3 sold.. so Publishers wanted to develop console Games first because thats where the money is... 

 

PC Gaming has almost become a "niche"   at least what i would call "heavy" gaming... means: more than just MMOs

 

thats the hard,cold brutal thruth...  Consoles rule the Market.... i dont like that either but we have to deal with it

[Hazegurl]

Why blame console gamers? I've played DAO on both console and PC and have had no issues with either. Naturally I prefer the PC controls. This is just a case of BW trying to be flashy and make changes on their own and fixing something that wasn't broken. imo.

[LegendaryBlade]

I disagree, back in my PC gaming day I spent up to 500€ a year to keep up to date. Buying a console has been a huge relief on my gaming budget. The graphics arent top notch and there's no good RTS to speak for but it's good enough.

There's no need to spend that much anymore, especially in the modern gaming landscape. Since all AAA releases have to abide by the console benchmark, you'll never get the most out of even a two or three year old graphics card. I built this PC years ago and still never break 40% usage.  It'll be another two years until a game comes out requiring more power than I have, and that's just Star Citizen and really I just need to upgrade my proc.