Consoles Gamers make up most of the current gaming market. You'll have to just deal with it. Your Master race is in the minority. They will appeal to the big picture, they make games to make money. Im sorry that youre not enjoying the controls.
PC gaming made up the majority of the gaming market from 2012 onward. I'm not talking about vs the next highest console, I'm talking about total revenue.
Regardless, Consoles are on one side, Pc is on the other,
Consoles have 3-6 version or consoles that games are made for, PCs have one. They are gonna focus on console, whether you want them too or whether they should. It just is.
I played Baldur's Gate and every NWN title on PC. I played DAO on PC.
When it was ported to console, I played it on the console again for Nostalgia sake (and they bundled a bunch of DLC with a GOTY edition). Honestly, as far as tactical combat goes...PC and PS3 were identical in functionality (albeit it is a bit quicker to select char puppets with a mouse).
It's a subjective statement, not a fact.
I game on both and do notice differences. Tactical combat was not one of them. One of them was max resolution. Another was modding. Tactical combat? Lol, you mean the ability to pause and select from a group of abilities to be performed in round-based sequence while also dictating a group of if/so statements for AI combat?
I'm starting to assume you never played it on a console and just assumed that didn't exist.
In fact, if you haven't played DAO on both, i'd argue your opinion is invalid on the matter as you do not have the requisite of knowledge to make a valid comparison.
I wasn't comparing the versions. I was comparing games (Origins vs. Inquisition). Inquisition has made a ton of changes to the formula to appeal to a broader base of people. There's nothing wrong with being bummed by that if you were a fan of the old formula.
PC gaming made up the majority of the gaming market from 2012 onward. I'm not talking about vs the next highest console, I'm talking about total revenue.
Are you absolutely high?
Consoles absolutely destroy PC's in both hardware sales and actual game sales. Look it up on Forbes. It's not even close in fact. They've been beating PC's by a landslide for the past 8 years. It's one of the reasons why gaming stores have stopped selling PC games or they have considerably cut down to a small shelf in the store with 4-5 games on it.
Console games = $$$$$$$$$$$$$
PC games = $$$
It's reality. Wake up.
I loathe these comments.
"don't like obama? move to russia!!"
"don't like your coworker? get a new job!"
No. buzz off. I'm not paying $60 for an xbox one controller when i like m&kb and hate controllers. These are not solutions. It is entirely possible to cater to both platforms. DAO did it.
Not really, having given it a try once DAO plays horribly on consoles I found. It may be that I'm not used to controllers but it's very clear the game is not meant to be played with one.
And I'm getting mighty tired of this PC master race vs console peasants BS, speaking as someone who doesn't own a console newer than the Nintendo 64. Inquisition's controls are perfectible, sure, but so (I find) are Wasteland 2's, and that was a PC exclusive, indie Kickstarter game, not an evil and corrupted console port from the EA Lords of Darkness. As a PC game, Inquisition is pretty decent, with a lot of options and scalable graphics. Minus the so-so optimisation and bad tactical camera controls, it's not anywhere near a bad PC version.
I wasn't comparing the versions. I was comparing games (Origins vs. Inquisition). Inquisition has made a ton of changes to the formula to appeal to a broader base of people. There's nothing wrong with being bummed by that if you were a fan of the old formula.
Fair enough.
But blaming consoles is silly. The "formula" isn't being changed because consoles can't handle turn-based sequencing of commands.
The formula has changed because the old combat mechanic is that...old.
Are you absolutely high?
Consoles absolutely destroy PC's in both hardware sales and actual game sales. Look it up on Forbes. It's not even close in fact. They've been beating PC's by a landslide for the past 8 years.
This. People are confusing multiplatform game sales vs how many people use a pc to play games, of course there are more GAMERS on PC, everyone owns one. but Multiplatform games, the console versions sell more. period. People are ignoring that and alternating the words.
PC gaming made up the majority of the gaming market from 2012 onward. I'm not talking about vs the next highest console, I'm talking about total revenue.
Yes, adding up every piece of hardware that is classified as gaming hardware, plus all the titles not even available on consoles, and doubling down on the microtransaction revenue from games like LoL and such is a very apples to apples comparison.
Maybe we should add up mobile gaming revenue and compare it to the two. I recently read an article where they did such.
Looks like in 2015, smartphone gamers will be the core gaming consumer base.
Smartphone Master Race.
Fair enough.
But blaming consoles is silly. The "formula" isn't being changed because consoles can't handle turn-based sequencing of commands.
The formula has changed because the old combat mechanic is that...old.
Old isn't worse by default you know.
Anyway this is a circular argument. Unless you're a PC only dude who grew up with the games Origins was an homage to it's hard for you to understand how different it is.
This. People are confusing multiplatform game sales vs how many people use a pc to play games, of course there are more GAMERS on PC, everyone owns one. but Multiplatform games, the console versions sell more. period. People are ignoring that and alternating the words.
Like do people even know how much revenue games like Madden, Call of Duty, Halo, and Gears of War made on the console.
LOL
The amount of cash would blow your freaking mind. 
Regardless, Consoles are on one side, Pc is on the other,
Consoles have 3-6 version or consoles that games are made for, PCs have one. They are gonna focus on console, whether you want them too or whether they should. It just is.
I think a lot of people complaining right now would be more okay with this if:
1. PC controls still felt good. Right now tactical mode is an absolute mess.
2. BioWare didn't tell us that the game was being developed with PC in mind first.
Are you absolutely high?
Consoles absolutely destroy PC's in both hardware sales and actual game sales. Look it up on Forbes. It's not even close in fact. They've been beating PC's by a landslide for the past 8 years. It's one of the reasons why gaming stores have stopped selling PC games or they have considerably cut down to a small shelf in the store with 4-5 games on it.
Console games = $$$$$$$$$$$$$
PC games = $$$
It's reality. Wake up.
PC is getting carried hard by League of Legends and World of Warcraft, but we are ahead in terms of global revenue as of April this year.
why blame consoles or PC?
When a company delivers they need to deliver at all fronts.
So blame the company if you must.
Also it's not like the console version is perfect from what I'm hearing
This isn't because of consoles this is because of biowaret. If you look at a game like Skyrim it works really well on both pc's and consoles and have bindable keys on both pc's and consoles, this is biowares mistake for making the pc version so limited, not because of consoles.
I think a lot of people complaining right now would be more okay with this if:
1. PC controls still felt good. Right now tactical mode is an absolute mess.
2. BioWare didn't tell us that the game was being developed with PC in mind first.
True, but maybe it was made with PC in mind but they changed the system. Just because they say "PC in mind" doesnt mean they are gonna copy and paste the PC control scheme from previous games. people shouldnt blame consoles for a design choice made by developers.
If they made a console with the ability to attach a keyboard (any keyboard) and a mouse (any mouse) up to it, yeah. I might consider buying one. Until then?
Nope.
As a matter of fact, if I had the money... That's exactly what I would do. Start up a console company, make it be able to hook up any controller (or K&M) and then separate the two in terms of servers. In other words, K&M players couldn't play with controller players. I mean, hell, I can see the ads for it now... "Tired of paying $1,500 dollars for computer games that don't work? Hey....! Buy our ****! NEVER HEAR OF THE CONSOLE WARS EVER AGAIN!"
PC is getting carried hard by League of Legends and World of Warcraft, but we are ahead in terms of global revenue as of April this year.
If they made a console with the ability to attach a keyboard (any keyboard) and a mouse (any mouse) up to it, yeah. I might consider buying one. Until then?
Nope.
As a matter of fact, if I had the money... That's exactly what I would do. Start up a console company, make it be able to hook up any controller (or K&M) and then separate the two in terms of servers. In other words, K&M players couldn't play with controller players. I mean, hell, I can see the ads for it now... "Tired of paying $1,500 dollars for computer games that don't work? Hey....! Buy our ****!"
XBOX1 and PS4 both support keyboard and mouse. Thet are in essence standardized PC with a propritary OS/UI.
https://support.us.p...-mouse-with-ps4
http://www.tomshardw...oard,24598.html
XBox MAY get K&M support. Plus, that's nothing about the servers. Oh, yah, these companies are so poor. Somebody might actually have to work.
True, but maybe it was made with PC in mind but they changed the system. Just because they say "PC in mind" doesnt mean they are gonna copy and paste the PC control scheme from previous games. people shouldnt blame consoles for a design choice made by developers.
I'd never blame the console players for a design decision made by a developer, just as people on these forums shouldn't be telling us PC players to "use a controller or shut up and deal with it" like so many are.
It's also very obvious that tactical mode was designed with a controller in mind, even in the PC version and it's clunky as hell to try and use it with the keyboard + mouse.
The OP is ridiculous in blaming console players for it, but it does need to be fixed. All platforms really should have smooth controls, and that's not the case right now.
Then think about this for a moment. What's the most obvious solution for PC gamers? Perhaps you should only buy PC-exclusive games that are built for that "platform". This bozo makes a post blaming console players for his woes, when maybe he should just stick to all those PC-exclusives. If you know a game is being made for the consoles, then the smart thing to do would be stop buying them on PC if you know they won't be optimized for that platform.
The issue, of course, is that Bioware likes to pretend that they're making a game that's playable on the PC, and then release a crappy console port for $60.
At least FromSoftware was upfront about Dark Souls being a poorly done port.
http://m.neogaf.com/...ad.php?t=932551
These top games are new physical retail only, many PC gamers just download the softcopy from steam or Origen. Console gamers most likely purchase the cheapest low disk space consoles and get a disk to load the game instead of downloading.
Maybe in 2009.
I may not have presented numbers, but if you can show me that a majority of multi platform games have more sales than PC, i'll admit i was wrong. I understand that there are many, many PC only games and thats a huge market, but we are dealing with a company that makes multi platform.
It's also very obvious that tactical mode was designed with a controller in mind, even in the PC version and it's clunky as hell to try and use it with the keyboard + mouse.
This is my favorite argument of all time. Can I ask, in all seriousness, why you didn't just say "Uh huh.", because in essence, that's what this post says. "I made a claim with absolutely no evidence to support it, but because I made the claim, you have to believe it's true." Hey, you know what else that equates to? "It has to be true, it's on the internet."
True story, the PC controls are so bad that they are already looking at them. I know this will break some people's hearts, but you can't make this stuff up. However, I, unlike some, will provide Evidence to support my claim. You're welcome.
I apologize, i figured it was well known that the consoles sell more copies of the same game than PC. If im outworldly wrong then i was mis informed.
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