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[Silas7]

You're really gonna go with the whole "Console peasants ruined everything!" bit? Best of luck to you on that one.

 

Anyways, Baldur's Gate had fairly terrible and clunky combat mechanics. I say that as somebody who actually enjoys tactical combat but really it was carried by story, dialogue, and world building. A lot of the old crpgs were.

 

Also, they don't need to pick one and go with it as Origins lets you run action or tactical mode just fine. They simply need to fix tactical mode on PC. and a bit more polish on action mode would be nice.

 

Any one else read the first sentence in Ms. Goto's voice?

[Prideaux]

Everywhere you turn in this game there is some feature under realised by console focus. I say that a person who loves console gaming just as much as PC gaming. One has to be blind not to see all the handicaps this game possesses thanks to consoles.

 

1. terrible interface, huge, unwieldy, everything is hidden in some menus

2. ALL CAPS

3. Huge writing everywhere

4. no tools tips.

5. only eight skills *yawn*

6. only so many things you can do in game (do to the lack of keys/buttons)

7. the awful PING system, Baldurs Gate is 17 years old and its 'show all' is fair superior

 

I love console games but devotion to them really has confined creativity and design, thank god the next-gen came out, at least we can now have games on PC with good graphics not hobbled by a part part.

 

This game is fun and it looks great but every aspect of the UI is woeful. It looks like a beta placeholder. The worst part the way this was designed means that mods wouldnt be allowed (once again thanks to consoles rigid 'everyone plays the same game on same system' approach.

[Prideaux]

Why is it that PC users believe that their format deserves to be treated better than others?  I understand that the PC version was not optimized, the controls need work, and Bioware should address these issues.  I even believe that Bioware should have made sure that these issues were fixed and that all formats were optimized before release. 

 

What I don't understand is the attitude of overwhelming self righteousness and pretentiousness from many (not all) PC users.  The PC is a powerful machine and you can do a lot with it, but in no way does it deserve to be given special treatment.  The game wasn't ruined because of consoles.  Its time to face facts; consoles are where the money is and developers are going to focus their attention on them.

 

This doesn't mean Bioware gets a pass for releasing substandard versions of their game, but people, please stop acting like some spoiled Orlesian noble who has been somehow slighted by those he/she deems inferior.

 

Disclaimer: I'm not addressing any individuals. I'm just commenting on what I've seen across the forums since release and on some user reviews on other game sites.

 

Because they took a great and complicated game and over simplified aspects of it to cater to the mass market whose gaming platforms only have a tiny amount of keys to use. Instead of making the controls and UI detailed and respectible on PC, they keep them (for the most part) the same and as a result truly terrible. See the difference between Skyrim default interface and SkyUI mod, to see what modders can do for free what a company we paid to make this game. The difference is night and day.

 

Im sorry but if you cant see how overly simplified some of this games aspects became thanks to consoles, you arent looking hard enough. Lets take for example the Potions research window. when I open it up on my PC on a 55' inch tv using a controller. I see two potions listed I then have to scoll to see the other two I have. WTH?!!! Why does the writing need to be soooooooo huge (much larger than the tool tips on loading screens), why cant you have the writing smaller and have the full list instead. It is pure madness. Skyrim made those type of mistakes and thats like three years old now.

 

PC gamers for far too long have been paying the same amount for sum par experiences, we get upset when its things like Dragon Age. Because we can see how many features have been stripped.

[voteDC]

Dragon Age Origins. Made for PC, ported to consoles, pretty much universally loved.

Dragon Age II: Made for consoles, ported to PC, pretty much agreed that it's a huge step backward.

Dragon Age Inquisition: Not far enough in to judge to be honest but I'm already annoyed by the fact I can't move my character by holding down the left and right mouse button. Forgive me for saying so but I can't help but feel that controller support has cost me that ability.

[Julia Luna]

It's becoming incredibly frustrating that yet again another game is ruined because of consoles. DA:I has all the makings of a truly great game, but all the fun is sapped out of it by the clunky and fiddly controls. It feels like the game is designed to try and appease players who want both action oriented combat and tactical combat, and in doing so it fails at both.

 

Arkham City = smooth, responsive action oriented combat, controls are excellent

Baldurs Gate = Fantastic tactical combat, very easy to control

 

Two examples (there are many more) of excellent combat systems. Both games know exactly what they want to be. One is designed for a controller, the other is designed for mouse ans keyboard. Simple enough.

 

Then we have DA:I, a game designed for both, but fails at both. Please, game developers, stop trying to please the entire gaming community by dumbing down features and messing around with silly control mechanisms, it doesn't work. Decide on what sort of combat you want and perfect it. This current hybrid abomination is horrible.

 

I'm sorely disappointed as I love the world, the story, the characters, everything but the most important aspect of any game; actually controlling it.

Sorry to say such harsh words, it is meant as compliment since no other words would describe how great your post is: MARRY ME NOW

[Dubstob]

Consoles Gamers make up most of the current gaming market.  Your Master race is in the minority. T 

 

A myth that is only believed in North America.

[Dubstob]

 

 

Consoles absolutely destroy PC's in both hardware sales and actual game sales.  Look it up on Forbes.  It's not even close in fact. 

 

 

Please don't lie to people:

 

http://www.vg247.com...t-value-report/

 

http://www.gamasutra...ame_revenue.php

[Damazig]

Dragon Age Origins. Made for PC, ported to consoles, pretty much universally loved.

Dragon Age II: Made for consoles, ported to PC, pretty much agreed that it's a huge step backward.

Dragon Age Inquisition: Not far enough in to judge to be honest but I'm already annoyed by the fact I can't move my character by holding down the left and right mouse button. Forgive me for saying so but I can't help but feel that controller support has cost me that ability.

 

That's exacly how it is.

 

Please don't lie to people:

 

http://www.vg247.com...t-value-report/

 

http://www.gamasutra...ame_revenue.php

I also have to agree with Jack Burton on this one. Alot of fanboys going around in all directions, but there are facts, and then there's just BS.

[StingingVelvet]

Dragon Age Origins. Made for PC, ported to consoles, pretty much universally loved.

 

To be fair a lot of places called out the console version as vastly inferior and many people on here have said it was a terrible port. Since consoles sell more copies I can't blame Bioware for working on beefing up the console side in DA2, and it still controlled and worked well on PC too.

 

This game though is a straight-up console port.

[ZipZap2000]

Maybe you should stop wasting money on PC's then and buy a console for a superior gaming experience that costs you less money? 

[voteDC]

I played the console version of Origins first and thought it was brilliant. Only two things annoyed me after playing the PC version. Lack of tactical camera and having to go into radial menus.

Dragon Age II was a console port but even with that they at least gave a token pretense of caring about the PC version. You would have though the fuss people kicked up about no auto-attack on the console versions of DAII at launch would have tipped Bioware off that leaving it out was not a good idea.

May I suggest they just couldn't be bothered adding it because the Awesome button is better for multiplayer.
 

 

Maybe you should stop wasting money on PC's then and buy a console for a superior gaming experience that costs you less money? 

 

If I wanted a console experience with this game I would turn on my Xbox 360 controller. It is not unreasonable for me to expect a PC experience when playing on the PC .

By the way I do own a Xbox One. My gamertag is the same as my username here.

[SadisticChunkyDwarf]

This again? Look, the PC master race vs Console gamers is an overblown narrative. Yes, the PC master race exists, and we are elitists. But by virtue of our eligibility requirements, mainly being the fact that were smart, adaptable and born sometime before 1980, we also own consoles more often than not. We do not complain about console ports, or difficult controls, or badly optimized graphics, we throw our money, knowledge and skill at the problem until it yeilds to us, like every other thing in existence rightfully should. And if it refuses to submit it is thrown in the deep dark pit, the one closet in the house that does not fall under the province of the wife and kids, never to be heard from again since nobody is stupid enough to go in there.

 

None of these possible outcomes involves coming on to a gaming forum and acting like a cry baby nonfactor.

 

You bring shame to yourself, not to the master race, If you were a member you'd be obligated to pay the blood price.

[Julia Luna]

Maybe you should stop wasting money on PC's then and buy a console for a superior gaming experience that costs you less money? 

Superior gaming experience? Are you trying to make me laugh sir? There is nothing superior on consoles, I can't even imagine what you are reffering to but I will try... limited hardware that outdates in the first 2 years of their 5~10 year lifespan? Controllers that can be also used on PC? Having to pay for services that you have for free in the PC? Really, what is exactly superior? Maybe the impossibility to run the game with graphics improvements over the years? To mod? (Though in DAI case that might not be a factor) Kind of confused here...

 

Only thing consoles were better was that many games I liked did not get released for PCs but it changed a lot in the past 4 years and now all the games I want to play have been released or announced for PCs (I just play RPG and fighting games, nothing else, NOTHING else)

[SadisticChunkyDwarf]

Superior gaming experience? Are you trying to make me laugh sir? There is nothing superior on consoles, I can't even imagine what you are reffering to but I will try... limited hardware that outdates in the first 2 years of their 5~10 year lifespan? Controllers that can be also used on PC? Having to pay for services that you have for free in the PC? Really, what is exactly superior? Maybe the impossibility to run the game with graphics improvements over the years? To mod? (Though in DAI case that might not be a factor) Kind of confused here...

 

Only thing consoles were better was that many games I liked did not get released for PCs but it changed a lot in the past 4 years and now all the games I want to play have been released or announced for PCs (I just play RPG and fighting games, nothing else, NOTHING else)

 

Good grief. See this is exacty what I'm talking about. Only yesterday this person started a thread that the game was all too hard and appealed to BW to include infant-mode in the game so that they didn't actually have to play it. Now suddenly they're trying to pose as some sort of gaming guru. Indeed, do not make me laugh sir.

 

Thank you for subsequently proving my point in a totally unrelated post.

 

It is only about if your rig can run and if you can own face at it. All other matters are irrelevant.

 

Console gamers can claim both, which is obviously more than yourself.

[MetalGear312]

Sorry for existing, I didn't mean to play on console. I shall now flagellate myself for this heinous sin.

[Han Master]

To be fair a lot of places called out the console version as vastly inferior and many people on here have said it was a terrible port. Since consoles sell more copies I can't blame Bioware for working on beefing up the console side in DA2, and it still controlled and worked well on PC too.
 
This game though is a straight-up console port.

DA 1 was game of the year 2009 while DA 2 is bad.

[Han Master]

Good grief. See this is exacty what I'm talking about. Only yesterday this person started a thread that the game was all too hard and appealed to BW to include infant-mode in the game so that they didn't actually have to play it. Now suddenly they're trying to pose as some sort of gaming guru. Indeed, do not make me laugh sir.

Thank you for subsequently proving my point in a totally unrelated post.

It is only about if your rig can run and if you can own face at it. All other matters are irrelevant.

Console gamers can claim both, which is obviously more than yourself.

Nope we can get a refund from Origin, infact a number of PC gamers has already done so if they don't want our money that is fine by you but not by them.

[Coverage]

If it's so bad. maybe the next Dragon Age should be a console exclusive game?

[Han Master]

If it's so bad. maybe the next Dragon Age should be a console exclusive game?

Might as well, if they want to ignore the superior revenue generated by PC gaming. Even GTA 5 will be coming over to the PC next year but their controls will be done right.

[Coverage]

Might as well, if they want to ignore the superior revenue generated by PC gaming. Even GTA 5 will be coming over to the PC next year but their controls will be done right.

 

Well if they can't get the PC controls and stability to be decently good, then it might actually not be worth developing for the PC market any longer. Better than pouring time and resources into one version of the game a lot of people hate.

 

 

Better than Bioware becoming a company like Ubisoft who just continuously releases awful PC versions of all their major games.

[RenAdaar]

Its good to know the evil console gamer agenda is coming along so well....Soon we will rule all.

[ZipZap2000]

@Juliana  laugh all you like, in the end you're the ones whining that your PC can't run a game the rest of us are enjoying.

[Fredward]

Playing on the PC. It's taken me about a day to get used to the control setup which is not significantly longer than it takes for me to get used to the control schemes of other games. Honestly? I think you people are spoiled. It's times like these when I thank my oh so lucky stars for not being born in a developed country, cuz really these are first world problems to the max. It's like some of you people don't have a gauge in your brain to tell you what the right level of offended is in proportion to the offense. It's weird. The game is fine, the control takes some getting used to but if you let that ruin the game for you... Yeah. Like I said, spoiled. The world doesn't revolve around you and etc.

[MetalGear312]

Playing on the PC. It's taken me about a day to get used to the control setup which is not significantly longer than it takes for me to get used to the control schemes of other games. Honestly? I think you people are spoiled. It's times like these when I thank my oh so lucky stars for not being born in a developed country, cuz really these are first world problems to the max. It's like some of you people don't have a gauge in your brain to tell you what the right level of offended is in proportion to the offense. It's weird. The game is fine, the control takes some getting used to but if you let that ruin the game for you... Yeah. Like I said, spoiled. The world doesn't revolve around you and etc.

Can we be best friends?

[cjones91]

Typical PC elitist....I'm busy playing this gorgeous game on my 360 and I have not noticed anything that 'ruins' it.