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In Dragon Age: Origins, Morrigan was a mysterious and highly accomplished mage.  She was analytical, practical, and cold (on the surface); however, exploring romance gave you a chance to break down those walls.  Her allure was so strong, sometimes one would make decisions they wouldn't typically make just to appease her.  On the other hand, Leliana was a former assassin/bard, trying to repent for her past.  Truthfully, she got on my nerves until she was "hardened", but after that, totally awesome.

 

Fast forward to DA: Inquisition.  Straight male characters have two options... 

 

1. Cassandra - Party member. Nobility. Warrior archtype. Goody-two shoe religious fanatic since youth.

2. Josephine - Non-party member. Nobility. Politician.

 

This is the first Bioware game (in DA:1-2 and Mass Effect 1-3) that I've not elected for a relationship.  Since the primary relationships are a total drag, I was hoping it was possible to strike up something with Leliana if she wasn't romance in the previous DA titles, but after a quick Google, I see that's not an option... again, very disappointing.  I much prefer someone who's in the middle instead of "one of the guys" (Cassandra) or "one of the girls" (Josephine) - both of which are way too "good" and diplomatic for my taste (both past and present).

 

Meanwhile...

 

Straight female gamers have (3 party members, 1 non party member):

 

1. Blackwall

2. Iron Bull

3. Cullen

4. Solas

 

Homosexual gamers have (2 party members (m) / 1 party member & 1 non-party member (f))

 

1. Iron Bull (m)

2. Dorian (m)

 

1. Josephine (f)

2. Sera (f)

 

*Women definitely got the shaft here because Sera's a lunatic and Josephine's so damn boring...*

 

 

Honestly, I could care less what's provided to different sexes / sexual orientations.  I am just disappointed by the lack of options provided to straight male gamers (which feels a bit like the twilight zone). Both options are completely boring, one dimension individuals.  What gives?


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Laugh is it bad that I think this is good for the ladies since at least you can have ME3 for your seven woman LI. Oh well!
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Can we start a bingo card?

 

So far I got:

 

-not enough options for straight dudes

-Sera hate

-"JOSEPHINE'S UGLY/BORING"

-"Origins was better"


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What gives?

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Honestly, one more topic like that and I'll be glad that "straight male players" don't have sh*t this time, because I've never seen someone whining more than them. 


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Can we start a bingo card?

 

So far I got:

 

-not enough options for straight dudes

-Sera hate

-"JOSEPHINE'S UGLY/BORING"

-"Origins was better"

 

Sorry I already won. I finished my card with "Cassandra was better looking in DAII"


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Sorry I already won. I finished my card with "Cassandra was better in DAII"

Wait, some people are saying that? Oh lulz.



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I think Cass and Josie are great

 

/thread


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Geez, romance is just an optional side feature. I don't like any straight male options either, so I'm just not gonna romance anyone with my straght male characters, it's that simple.

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Wait, some people are saying that? Oh lulz.

 

My bad, I missed a word. Could've sworn I typed it in, but my keyboard's kinda stiff. Anyways, they're saying Cassandra was better looking in DAII.



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Laughs, I still think a female gamer like myself approves of the males in this game at least, you can have seven options in ME3 while woman were only aloud Garrus if romanced in two and Kaidan yippe sorry if you did not pick Kaidan to surive the bomb and chose to kill Garus no straight options for you in me3. Yup straight male's are so mistreated in these games. Joke
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Wait, some people are saying that? Oh lulz.

Cassandra is one handsome devil in this game, though. 


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Cass rocks at least she doesn't need to wear high heals to look hot in armor.
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Is anyone keeping a tally of how many self identified straight males make threads complaining about this vs how many self identified lesbians and homosexuals make threads complaining about their two romance options?

Can we compare these groups' frequency of complaints to reveal who feels the most entitled?

If you're the sexist type, you'd think women would do most of the complaining. The evidence has so far proven the opposite to be true.

For all the straight men who do not complain: bless you.

Edit: Why don't you just make a hot woman inquisitor? I'm a straight female and I made the hottest male inquisitor this side of Thedas. I yearn for every cut scene to watch him talk. I get to spend 100+ hours by his side as a player. This is better than any concocted romance with a preset character.
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Sorry OP, but your a little late to this party. "Straight Male Gamers" have been griping about this for over a year now. The horse is dead, let it lie.


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WHY WASN'T THERE MORE OPTIONS FOR STRAIGHT DUDES?!

 

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Is anyone keeping a tally of how many self identified straight males make threads complaining about this vs how many self identified lesbians and homosexuals make threads complaining about their two romance options?

Can we compare these groups' frequency of complaints to reveal who feels the most entitled?

If you're the sexist type, you'd think women would do most of the complaining. The evidence has so far proven the opposite to be true.

For all the straight men who do not complain: bless you.

 

I've found this interesting as well. You generally do not see gay women complaining considering they also only have two options, or if they do, they're expressing basic one-off disappointment and then moving on. 



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WHY WASN'T THERE MORE OPTIONS FOR STRAIGHT DUDES?!

 

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Because BioWare hates us? 


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Dear SetSailForFail,

 

I am a straight male and in complete agreement with you. In my canon playthrough, that is to say the playthrough that I would make the decisions and choices that I would make myself, meaning I roleplay as myself, I did not pick any love interest for my character since Dragon Age 2. For the simple reason that none of the romanceable female characters were appealing to me personally. 

 

DAI romance is even more disappointing thant DA2 because all the love interests in game are nothing but trophies to be earned and a pixelated ideal to be pleased. There is no chance for equal relationship in DA:I. The followers and advisers never try to make it clear that they are interested in you, they never initiate anything with you and the never give anything to you.

 

In DAO, followers who are interested in your Warden will change their dialogue, attempt to initiate a relationship and give you gifts. Morrigan becomes girlishly cute, Leliana fumbles with her words, Zevran becomes more committed and Alistair becomes a hopeless romantic. Morrigan gives you a ring, Alistair a rose and Zevran gives you earrings. 

 

In DAI you Inquisitor has to do everything from flirting to romance initiation to gift giving. The romances felt awfully one sided. I thought Bioware set out to make them more realistic but they are not, the romances in the game turn out to be your being a hopeless puppy dog trying to please and flirt with a particular love interest and like some metaphorical god receiving their subjects' adoration, at some point, they accept your romance advances.

 

It is frankly pathetic.

 

Like you, I prefer Morrigan and hardened Leliana. 

 

However, since this is a roleplaying game, I do roleplay other characters with their own set of personalities who I do involve in the romances. 

 

Having said that, I doubt you will effect anything here since when it comes to straight males, BSN automatically spews shame, dismissal and disregard. It is odd and hypocritical, given that they expect us to care about other sexualities but they never extend the same courtesy. 


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Because BioWare hates us? 

 

 

But seriously, I'm going to post that gif every single time one of these threads get made because the whining has gone overboard.


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Dear SetSailForFail,

I am a straight male and in complete agreement with you. In my canon playthrough, that is to say the playthrough that I would make the decisions and choices that I would make myself, meaning I roleplay as myself, I did not pick any love interest for my character since Dragon Age 2. For the simple reason that none of the romanceable female characters were appealing to me personally.

DAI romance is even more disappointing thant DA2 because all the love interests in game are nothing but trophies to be earned and a pixelated ideal to be pleased. There is no chance for equal relationship in DA:I. The followers and advisers never try to make it clear that they are interested in you, they never initiate anything with you and the never give anything to you.

In DAO, followers who are interested in your Warden will change their dialogue, attempt to initiate a relationship and give you gifts. Morrigan becomes girlishly cute, Leliana fumbles with her words, Zevran becomes more committed and Alistair becomes a hopeless romantic. Morrigan gives you a ring, Alistair a rose and Zevran gives you earrings.

In DAI you Inquisitor has to do everything from flirting to romance initiation to gift giving. The romances felt awfully one sided. I thought Bioware set out to make them more realistic but they are not, the romances in the game turn out to be your being a hopeless puppy dog trying to please and flirt with a particular love interest and like some metaphorical god receiving their subjects' adoration, at some point, they accept your romance advances.

It is frankly pathetic.

Like you, I prefer Morrigan and hardened Leliana.

However, since this is a roleplaying game, I do roleplay other characters with their own set of personalities who I do involve in the romances.

Having said that, I doubt you will effect anything here since when it comes to straight males, BSN automatically spews shame, dismissal and disregard. It is odd and hypocritical, given that they expect us to care about other sexualities but they never extend the same courtesy.


Oh give me a break.
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Is anyone keeping a tally of how many self identified straight males make threads complaining about this vs how many self identified lesbians and homosexuals make threads complaining about their two romance options?

Can we compare these groups' frequency of complaints to reveal who feels the most entitled?

If you're the sexist type, you'd think women would do most of the complaining. The evidence has so far proven the opposite to be true.

For all the straight men who do not complain: bless you.

Edit: Why don't you just make a hot woman inquisitor? I'm a straight female and I made the hottest male inquisitor this side of Thedas. I yearn for every cut scene to watch him talk. I get to spend 100+ hours by his side as a player. This is better than any concocted romance with a preset character.

 

Yes, let us practice censorship ala 1984. People should be allowed to voice their opinions. If there are so many straight males who either complain or straight up say that they do not want to romance anyone in the game, shouldn't someone look into why that is ?

 

If that is because the women available do not match to our standards, shouldn't that opinion be allowed to expressed instead of shaming ? 


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The real tragedy is that this isn't an option:
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In Dragon Age: Origins, Morrigan was a mysterious and highly accomplished mage.  She was analytical, practical, and cold (on the surface); however, exploring romance gave you a chance to break down those walls.  Her allure was so strong, sometimes one would make decisions they wouldn't typically make just to appease her.  On the other hand, Leliana was a former assassin/bard, trying to repent for her past.  Truthfully, she got on my nerves until she was "hardened", but after that, totally awesome.

 

Fast forward to DA: Inquisition.  Straight male characters have two options... 

 

1. Cassandra - Party member. Nobility. Warrior archtype. Goody-two shoe religious fanatic since youth.

2. Josephine - Non-party member. Nobility. Politician.

 

This is the first Bioware game (in DA:1-2 and Mass Effect 1-3) that I've not elected for a relationship.  Since the primary relationships are a total drag, I was hoping it was possible to strike up something with Leliana if she wasn't romance in the previous DA titles, but after a quick Google, I see that's not an option... again, very disappointing.  I much prefer someone who's in the middle instead of "one of the guys" (Cassandra) or "one of the girls" (Josephine) - both of which are way too "good" and diplomatic for my taste (both past and present).

 

Meanwhile...

 

Straight female gamers have (3 party members, 1 non party member):

 

1. Blackwall

2. Iron Bull

3. Cullen

4. Solas

 

Homosexual gamers have (2 party members (m) / 1 party member & 1 non-party member (f))

 

1. Iron Bull (m)

2. Dorian (m)

 

1. Josephine (f)

2. Sera (f)

 

*Women definitely got the shaft here because Sera's a lunatic and Josephine's so damn boring...*

 

 

Honestly, I could care less what's provided to different sexes / sexual orientations.  I am just disappointed by the lack of options provided to straight male gamers (which feels a bit like the twilight zone). Both options are completely boring, one dimension individuals.  What gives?

 

This sounds like my gripe with my 1st Female Shep. I romanced no one in 1 and Thane in 2. I kept Ash alive and got to 3 and my only options were Liara & Traynor. Liara is a best bud and I can't stand Traynor, so she had no one. I started a Female character in this game and was going to romance Solas as I really like him, but you have to play a female Elf only and she was just to dang thin and looked horrid out of armor. I tried but dang in her casual outfit her head looked like it was going to break off with how thin she was. I will probably go with Cullen just because when you flirt with him he is so awkward and reminds me of Alistair, whom I adore in his goofy unsure and sometimes funny ramblings.

I always thought it was cool as heck with the romance thing in BioWare games, but lousey choices make it almost a pain anymore.


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BSN drinking game, drink when:

 

- Someone complains about straight male romance options.

- Someone says how ugly women in DAI are.

- Someone wonders if they can kill certain character.

- Someone asks if they can romance Warden/Hawke/Elder One/Dog/Darkspawn/insert any non-usual option.

 

Result: Knockout.


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