I'm quite disappointed when I recently found out that vivienne wasn't a romance option, the only good looking female with elegance and class not to be a romance option. Like seriously all bioware had to do was make her a straight romance option for males and there wouldn't be much complaints at all, is bioware on crack or are they trolling us to the extreme.
Josie and Cass being examples of classless, inelegant, and poor looking?
Boo.
Josie and Cass being examples of classless, inelegant, and poor looking?
Boo.
Cassie is quite classie, I love her taking no bs attitude. 
And she is beautiful.
Josie is interesting, she is preciously beautiful, her first response to a flirt now has me pawning to see more, though my first is Sera.
Then Josie, Cassie next, Cullen just won a spot on the list to try out, as is Bull, Dorian, Blackwall actually surprised me as interesting to find out as well. Ugh.....so many play throughs, more characters to build now. At least as a female elf, I can cover 6 in one bang.......... Yay for those hot and sexy female elves......
Wait, so I can't complain that I don't particularly care for the romance options because male privilege?
It prevents me from having an opinion of pixels and recorded lines?
Seriously?
No but whining about it for the hundredth thread is annoying.
It's not even like this is a request for future games which I could get behind. It's just whining about the present one.
Cassie is quite classie, I love her taking no bs attitude.
Josie is interesting, she is preciously beautiful, her first response to a flirt now has me pawning to see more, though my first is Sera.
Then Josie, Cassie next, Cullen just won a spot on the list to try out, as is Bull, Dorian, Blackwall actually surprised me as interesting to find out as well. Ugh.....so many play throughs, more characters to build now. At least as a female elf, I can cover 6 in one bang.......... Yay for those hot and sexy female elves......
Lol. You mean on one play through?
I don't...think they'll let that happen for you. I think there's a locked in system.
Lol. You mean on one play through?
I don't...think they'll let that happen for you. I think there's a locked in system.
Yep, to a certain point, they will get locked, but will be fun flirting with all 6. I get to see more till they reach lock point. That will help some anyways, or make it worse on me......
Opinions are like assholes, everyone got one. Doesn´t mean it is wrong though.
Yep, to a certain point, they will get locked, but will be fun flirting with all 6.
Hahaha. I hear things about the reaction to this strategy among companions. 
You know how Shepard gets called out in ME for flirting with both Liara and one of the potential future Virmire survivors? Well, when I was contemplating just how many options a female elf had, I had this scene in my head of the female elf quizzie walking into the war room and seeing nearly everyone there waiting for her.
"Inquisitor...We need to talk."
Yeesh, tense. 
Hahaha. I hear things about the reaction to this strategy among companions.
You know how Shepard gets called out in ME for flirting with both Liara and one of the potential future Virmire survivors? Well, when I was contemplating just how many options a female elf had, I had this scene in my head of the female elf quizzie walking into the war room and seeing nearly everyone there waiting for her.
"Inquisitor...We need to talk."
Yeesh, tense.
Lol, That would be quite a scarey moment if that happened....
"Um. I left something in the oven, be right back..."
ESA says 52% of gamers are male and 48% are female. Most people would be shocked to see this statistic at face value. However, most everyone's mom is hooked on candy crush or words with friends. Hence the 31 year old "average" and "48% female". 58% are of the "most played" games are casual/game show/trivia/card games. However, if we look at the "sales" of those games, it paints a clearer picture. Casual + Other only represents 3.5% of sales.
If we want to argue over who's the majority here, let's not kid ourselves.
In fact, women are the largest gaming demographic for PC role-playing games (54 percent) and they represent almost 40 percent of MMO and digital console gamers. So to say that women are just casual gamers is empirically false.
Even if the 52% was a legit statistic, that means they are barely the majority by 4%, but if you include the thousands of women the world over who hide behind a male allias, than the statistic is much closer to 50/50. Now, intrestingly, if you consider the growth prospects and market compitition for the female demographic there is a much higher level of profitablity to be gained from them, than the mal e demographics, because there is far less competition.
It's no longer the 90s, the age of straight males dominating the gaming-sandpit is over; now you have to share..
In real life, my ideal physical perfection of the human females are female athletes.
These are not societies idea of female physical perfection, as far as I am aware of. Societies like supermodel thin women with skinny body and skinny hands. Ironically, Bioware is doing this to their female characters. All their female characters, across different games have supermodel thin hands. The Elves of both sexes in the past 2 DA games look anorexic and underfed. At the same time Bioware continues to make the males characters tough muscled men. They even cake the make up on women that should not have them. Cassandra for instance, has this black eye shadow on her. I do not know about you but I find the idea of warrior females wearing eye shadow to be laughable.
I do not know where people get the idea that Bioware is company that is trying to be progressive. They are just as bad in promoting stereotypes of unhealthy women with anorexic arms, underfed elves and supermuscle men. I frankly do not see them doing anything positive in this regard.
As for "oppressive women beauty standards" what about the ruggedly handsome male mcmuscles ? Never see anyone try to change that trope. We still perpetuate it. No one is actively trying to make women deprogram themselves of it. Hypocrisy is really a funny thing is it not ?
What about the women who find themselves the victim of the brainwashing to idealize tough handsome rugged men ? Ah, but they are women, not straight men so that is apparently okay.
I am all for the main male love interest being a butch Tsundere religious woman if and only if the main straight male love interest get the same treatment of unconventionality. Blackwall is a rugged, good looking and very masculine. He has the traits women on average find attractive. Moreover, in't it funny how Cassandra has scars but Blackwall's and Cullen's face are so clean even though from their backstories they have been through plenty of shite ?
Hey, instead of actually trying these romances out, let's judge them with simplistic, superficial words!
I'm romancing Josephine right now, and honestly it's refreshing. She's one of the most grounded bioware characters ever. In an endless pool of broken, mentally disturbed, distrustful, hardened characters, that sort of uniqueness gives her depth.
Can't speak for Cass, but that's because I haven't tried out her romance, therefore I can't actually make an informed judgement about it
They dont see her as an actual romance partner cause they dont hang out and talk to her? Which they dont get to out in the field with the others from what I saw either. Their content is the same, they talk in the same area. She banters too, its quite interesting listening to her.
She has some of the most Real and engaging chit chat in the game. If you actually converse with her.
I do almost wonder if they wanted to screw with male players with Josephine. "Let's take one of the only male lis for straight males and put her in the poofiest most from concealing garment we can justify. She'll be our apology for Morrigan and Miranda" (as if an apology was needed, but hey, still makes me laugh.)
Poofy dresses are sexy.
I admit i wish Cass's romance was done a bit better...
Maybe if it was longer; had started earlier and wasn't thrown in at the last minute.
Blackwall is a rugged, good looking and very masculine
Good looking? I live in a parallel universe it seems. He's just ok.
Moreover, in't it funny how Cassandra has scars but Blackwall's and Cullen's face are so clean even though from their backstories they have been through plenty of shite ?
Cullen has a scar, don't worry. And also Bull.
But what's more funny - a sh*tloads of people were pissed they can't romance Aveline and they don't like Merrill or Bella at all. F*ck them, right? 
Never mind the others still have Josephine and even Sera.
Never see anyone try to change that trope.
Excuse you, where was that trope in DA2, for example? I think I can safely say there weren't a single male LI that fall in that category. In fact, before DAI it was only Alistair there. Who, in thruth, also can't be called overly-manly man.
Also!
Some of the bloody scenes for Cass's romance are bugged!
Bioware needs to patch them immediately.
The cutscene just freezing in place, no sound or anything, annoying!
Also!
Some of the bloody scenes for Cass's romance are bugged!
Bioware needs to patch them immediately.
The cutscene just freezing in place, no sound or anything, annoying!
also happens with scenes involving the wardens
also happens with scenes involving the wardens
Yeah.
The Ritual Tower in the western approach; mentioned it earlier in the Cass thread.
This seriously sort of just breaks the romance for me.
Yeah.
The Ritual Tower in the western approach; mentioned it earlier in the Cass thread.
This seriously sort of just breaks the romance for me.
*sits there pressing X to skip past the dialogue so I can end the scene*
pretty sure I missed half of what was said in either sequence
*sits there pressing X to skip past the dialogue so I can end the scene*
pretty sure I missed half of what was said in either sequence
Tell me about it.
Seriously; i don't know if this is a cache bug or something involving some keep error or what have you or simply a busted bit of code but it ruined what was supposed to be a beautiful moment.
*sits there pressing X to skip past the dialogue so I can end the scene*
pretty sure I missed half of what was said in either sequence
Did you get the falling through skyhold bug yet? I just kept falling. It was hilarious XD
Did you get the falling through skyhold bug yet? I just kept falling. It was hilarious XD
yeah, but it stopped and teleported me back, then the textures started bugging out
*sits there pressing X to skip past the dialogue so I can end the scene*
pretty sure I missed half of what was said in either sequence
Five minutes of awkward staring. Definitely my favorite romance.
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