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It's not easy being a heterosexual male these days.

Sigh. OP I am sorry your not happy. Who would you rather romance?
I like the dwarf Scout <3.

Leliana! Merrill! Morrigan!

 

No but seriously, I know this question wasn't addressed to me but why limit it?  Why not make every character that is romance-able, able to be romanced by any player character?  Some may require more effort than others but that would make it even better.


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I think I would seriously challenge the "straight male gamers are the majority by a huge margin" assumption with regards to this specific game. 

 

Besides, even if it were true it's generally a self-fulfilling prophecy that companies like Bioware are actively trying to CHANGE. When you cater primarily to straight male gamers, you're drawing in that demographic and turning off others. By adding more diverse options you're appealing to an underserved demographic and making your game a lot more accessible and attractive to a wider audience. Just because a straight male majority exists among gamers doesn't mean it should continue to exist.


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*walks into forum wearing a female bard outfit*

I will have to figure out how to bend down appropriately.
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A cost benefit analysis on the Inquisitor's part will show that the costs of romancing Cassandra outweigh the benefits. For one thing my Inquisitor is pro mage, he allied with the rebel mages, he is not keen on this herald superstition nonsense, he is not religious, he is not the type to who likes to take direct frontal action without thinking about it and he is not the type to take things too seriously. 

Fof f*cks sake, just get Dorian then and carry on.

 

I know how it feels to deal with this whole andrastian bullsh*t while being pro-mage, and I'm glad we had Morrigan in DAO and Dorian in DAI - and I'm not crying omg there's no straight male option for me to romance or omg there's no such thing in DAI, again.

Just play with the cards you're dealt with.



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Leliana! Merrill! Morrigan!

 

No but seriously, I know this question wasn't addressed to me but why limit it?  Why not make every character that is romance-able, able to be romanced by any player character?  Some may require more effort than others but that would make it even better.

 

They did that in Dragon Age 2. People bitched about who it was unbelievable that so many characters were Bi and a lot of my fellow Straight Male Gamers whined alot about Anders attempting to flirt with them.  :P


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I think I would seriously challenge the "straight male gamers are the majority by a huge margin" assumption with regards to this specific game. 

 

Besides, even if it were true it's generally a self-fulfilling prophecy that companies like Bioware are actively trying to CHANGE. When you cater primarily to straight male gamers, you're drawing in that demographic and turning off others. By adding more diverse options you're appealing to an underserved demographic and making your game a lot more accessible and attractive to a wider audience. Just because a straight male majority exists among gamers doesn't mean it should continue to exist.

It exists because that's who plays games.  So that's who BUYS games.  In order to make money, developers must appeal to the largest possible market.  Pissing off a big chunk of the largest demographic in order draw in small slivers of another demographic isn't always smart.  This is obviously changing and Bioware is at the front of spurring that change, but it's still reality for now.

 

Anyway, the demographic argument was only brought into this discussion as an explanation for why "straight male gamers complain so much".  It's not that they complain more than anyone else, there's just more of them...so more complaints.  



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Lol


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Straight male here. I wasn't too thrilled about the romances before actually playing either. I just completed the Cass romance today and I really liked it. I'm Latino and she looks very Latina I remember having girlfriends when i was younger that looked like her.

The scar bothered me at first but then I remembered that leliana also had baggage hell even in mass effect the love interests all had their flaws.

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They did that in Dragon Age 2. People bitched about who it was unbelievable that so many characters were Bi and a lot of my fellow Straight Male Gamers whined alot about Anders attempting to flirt with them.  :P

True, but when the alternative is that you get an emasculating woman and a politician as LI, people may change their tune.



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  It's not that they complain more than anyone else, there's just more of them...so more complaints.  

I really do want to see a proof of that. Especially the players statistic by gender playing Bioware games specifically.

Mind you that the residents of BSN aren't what we're looking for.



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This will be terrible if I was playing Dragon Age games just for the romances. 

...which no one should say... 

I'm sorry but I have a hard sympathizing complaining about romances in a video game. 

Is that weird?


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I really do want to see a proof of that. Especially the players statistic by gender playing Bioware games specifically.

Mind you that the residents of BSN aren't what we're looking for.

Yeah, I'd like to see the numbers myself.  I could be wrong and it would be very enlightening if I were.



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I honestly don't think this is a big deal. As long as I have someone I have the option to romance. If I don't like them than I won't romance them. In mass effect 1 I hated Ashley and liara annoyed me. So I did not romance eather. I did not put a huge stink about it.
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So she is some Tsundere ice queen goddess that my Inquisitor has to failingly flirt with and try to please at every occasion only to get some tiny reciprocation at the end ? 

 

 

I know you're not going to change your mind, but the same can be said of every love interest. You need to mold your choices to get into their good graces, and many of them have you flirt with little to no reciprocation from the start.

 

Not every love interest can appeal to everyone. As a gay man, I've got Iron Bull, who is a crazily proportioned ox man spy commitmentphobe, and Dorian, who might as well be named Metaphor for Western Gay Man Raised in a Christian Household (but that was above the character limit). Heck, if these were my options in real life, I would be eternally celibate.


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This will be terrible if I was playing Dragon Age games just for the romances. 

...which no one should say... 

I'm sorry but I have a hard sympathizing complaining about romances in a video game. 

Is that weird?

Not weird at all.  

 

But people like what they like, and the romance aspect has always been something that was very well done and well liked in Bioware games.  So I understand when fans of Bioware load up a new game and something they counted on as being awesome is somewhat disappointing.  It's understandable.


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In DAI you Inquisitor has to do everything from flirting to romance initiation to gift giving. The romances felt awfully one sided. I thought Bioware set out to make them more realistic but they are not, the romances in the game turn out to be your being a hopeless puppy dog trying to please and flirt with a particular love interest and like some metaphorical god receiving their subjects' adoration, at some point, they accept your romance advances.

 

You can probably blame this squarely on all the people who flipped the hell out because they they were ninjamanced.  So Bioware was like, fine, now you have to practically dry-hump companions in the street before they even recognize that you might be interested, no surprises here for you to clutch your pearls over.  No, it's not realistic, but apparently realism absolutely needs to stop before a character you don't like hits on your PC without your permission and the world crumbles.


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True, but when the alternative is that you get an emasculating woman and a politician as LI, people may change their tune.

 

If you find Cassandra emasculating you definitely got some baggage to work out.


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Yeah, I'd like to see the numbers myself. I could be wrong and it would be very enlightening if I were.


Out of my 10 friends who play dragon age 7 are female. If that helps. I know that's a small sample and can't be applied to everything but just so people know.
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If you find Cassandra emasculating you definitely got some baggage to work out.

I personally don't, but that seems to be a common theme.  Personally, I don't find her to be that masculine.  I've only just started the romance with her, but so far, I'm engaged.  I love bad ass women in games and movies, so I'm all about her on the surface there's just something about her personality that rubs me the wrong way currently but not sure what it is.  Is it just me, or does she have some elements of Bastila in her?  I can't quite put my finger on it but Bastila is probably my favorite LI of any Bioware game, so I'm hopeful.



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Bioware went overboard with H****** stuff in DAI..I mean game was banned in India coz of it ..lol

 

 

Best option for Straight dudes playing as Female is Cullen or Blackwall

 

For those who are playing as Male - Vivene mage or Cassandra...

 

Sucks you can't romance with Leliana or Morgigan.... :(



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Bioware went overboard with ****** stuff in DAI..I mean game was banned in India coz of it ..lol

 

The game was banned in India because of homosexual romances; not because of romance in general though right? 



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The game was banned in India because of homosexual romances; not because of romance in general though right?


Yes

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I'm romancing Iron Bull right now as a male elf(and loving it!) and can't wait to romance the others! I didn't think I would like Cassandra much but she's awesome and I think I'll romance her on my second character :D

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Yes

 

 Oh okay, thanks. I heard about it and I was curious. 



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The game was banned in India because of homosexual romances; not because of romance in general though right? 

 

It wasn't banned - EA is choosing not to sell the game there. In their press release, they indicated it was not specific to same gender romances. Of course, that could be PR speak.


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