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[Alsedexus]

As many of you, I've played through multiple times and tried out the different endings, and I'm a bit dubious as to what is the best ending for the galaxy. I've been thinking like this

 

BEST ENDING

The best ending is infact the "evil" ending. T.I.M was right all along. Controlling the Reapers resulted in the most positive outcome, seeing as they actually help rebuild the mass relays.

 

SECOND BEST

Merging with the reapers and creating a whole new "cybernetic spieces" if you will. This seem like sort of a compromise. But instead of the Reapers absorbing sapient beeings, the beeings absorb the reapers.

 

THIRD BEST

This is (IMO) actually the worst ending, and even a BAD ending for everyone but Shepard, who seems to survive at the end. IIRC, the entity said that destroying the Reapers would also destroy all other artificial life, meaning that it will take the geth along in the process. So much for establishing peace between the geth and quarians. And eventhough the threat of the Reapers is gone, it would seem that having them on you own side as in the other options is far more desirable.

 

What do you think?

[Mordokai]

[Valmar]

Synthesis. Universal peace, understanding and transcendence. Plus the cycle of organic vs synthetic is resolved. I find it odd that you consider control to be better than synthesis given how synthesis gives all the same perks as control and then some.

[DeinonSlayer]

Destroy all the way.

Two of the three "synthetic uprisings" we're aware of were instigated by the Reapers themselves. They are the problem they were created to solve. In a post-Destroy galaxy, we stand or fall on our own merits. Own both our achievements and our failures. No overbearing robot overlords policing our every move, exterminating us to "protect" us from ourselves. No galactic gene rape/brainwashing (euphemize it however you like, that's precisely what it is).

Will post-war recovery be a pain in the ass? Yes, but I think the galaxy can handle it.

Destroy > Control > Low-EMS Destroy > Refuse >>>>>>>>>> Twilight = Synthesis

Please, for the love of all that is holy, NO SPARKLING KROGAN IN ME4!

[Iakus]

A strange game.

 

The only winning move is not to play.  

[Barquiel]

I think that's impossible to tell because all endings are extremely vague.

In control, it's safe to assume that the galaxy rebuilds a bit faster faster (according to the writers it takes 10-15 years for complete reconstruction in all endings)...but new problems could arise. CatalystShep will be wielding unlimited power for eternity, that gives lots of oportunities to twist its morals (what if CatalystShep feels it needs more reapers to get the job done? What happens if one or more species rebel against Shepards omnipotent police force? What happens if the reapers are forced to compete with other races - for example for Eezo, etc). Or the citadel races will stagnate in control because they completely rely on CatalystShep, while they end up surpassing the Reapers' technological abilities in the other endings, who knows.

Synthesis is even worse...it's basically whatever you want it to be because not a single interpretation is wrong on account of there being no information on the ramifications of synthesis. Destroy is kind of about preserving the status quo and allowing life to continue on its own terms...and if you accept the inevitability argument of the catalyst, that's just a disaster waiting to happen.

[im commander shep]

I think that's impossible to tell because all endings are extremely vague.

In control, it's safe to assume that the galaxy rebuilds a bit faster faster (according to the writers it takes 10-15 years for complete reconstruction in all endings)...but new problems could arise. CatalystShep will be wielding unlimited power for eternity, that gives lots of oportunities to twist its morals (what if CatalystShep feels it needs more reapers to get the job done? What happens if one or more species rebel against Shepards omnipotent police force? What happens if the reapers are forced to compete with other races - for example for Eezo, etc). Or the citadel races will stagnate in control because they completely rely on CatalystShep, while they end up surpassing the Reapers' technological abilities in the other endings, who knows.

Synthesis is even worse...it's basically whatever you want it to be because not a single interpretation is wrong on account of there being no information on the ramifications of synthesis. Destroy is kind of about preserving the status quo and allowing life to continue on its own terms...and if you accept the inevitability argument of the catalyst, that's just a disaster waiting to happen.

This, except Destroy gives you some level of closure based on what you have tried to achieve in the rest of the trilogy, if in the end you could end up wiping out all organics by removing the catalyst and the reaper solution.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

From a story writing viewpoint.... Destroy is the best one.

 

We do learn the technology to rebuild the mass relays and do so in a short time according to the twitter canons. Plus with Destroy there is the greatest chance for conflict, and we know that conflict = story.

 

Destroy = the peace won't last = story = great game

 

Synthesis = peace = no conflict = no story = bad game

 

Control = reapers present as a police force = peace = no conflict = no story = bad game

 

Hence Destroy will be the canon ending for ME3.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Destroy all the way.

Two of the three "synthetic uprisings" we're aware of were instigated by the Reapers themselves. They are the problem they were created to solve. In a post-Destroy galaxy, we stand or fall on our own merits. Own both our achievements and our failures. No overbearing robot overlords policing our every move, exterminating us to "protect" us from ourselves. No galactic gene rape/brainwashing (euphemize it however you like, that's precisely what it is).

Will post-war recovery be a pain in the ass? Yes, but I think the galaxy can handle it.

Destroy > Control > Low-EMS Destroy > Refuse >>>>>>>>>> Twilight = Synthesis

Please, for the love of all that is holy, NO SPARKLING KROGAN IN ME4!

 

Oh, come on. Synthesis is great:

 

[themikefest]

destroy all the time, every time.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Agree with the OP, because then the Species wouldn't be stranded on Earth for so long, building the Mass Relays by themselves, but instead, they have tons of Reapers to help, like, 200% more rapidly.

[ZipZap2000]

It's all completely up to the person playing it, which works out great for people like me who try to go in different directions with every Shepard. I dunno if i'd even want to play it again if it all only had one ending.

 

 

EDIT: Synthesis is my preferred ending.

[SporkFu]

In some ways I like the paragon control ending, but it doesn't rid the galaxy of the reapers once and for all, so I'll have to go with destroy. As Javik might say, 'the loss of a planet synthetics is insignificant next to the loss of a galaxy'.... or maybe it's 'throw them out the airlock, commandah'

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 

Wasted use of a great .gif. 'Had that one saved in the docs to whip out at the perfect time, but now it's tainted.

[SwobyJ]

Because I'm cray cray, I view the 'best' ending as the most illusory.

 

That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I say look at the more recent themes in Dragon Age: Inquisition to see how something in a story can be totally real while being unreal.
 

 

So pick Synthesis with the Cure and Peace and all that, if you want the simulation pushed to and past its limits.

 

I went more conservative and wanted my Shepard alive so I picked Destroy. But still.

 

 

So 'best ending' is, as I think a Bioware dev said, Synthesis.

 

But the best story choice imo is Destroy, or at least Max Destroy.

 

Control is the compromise between both in this regard.

[Mister J]

Destroy allows the galaxy to choose their own fate, as it should be in my opinion. The death of the Geth will bring closure to the whole Geth & Quarian affaire which is probably for the best. EDI can be rebuild I'm sure.

[Cobwebmaster]

As many of you, I've played through multiple times and tried out the different endings, and I'm a bit dubious as to what is the best ending for the galaxy. I've been thinking like this

 

BEST ENDING

The best ending is infact the "evil" ending. T.I.M was right all along. Controlling the Reapers resulted in the most positive outcome, seeing as they actually help rebuild the mass relays.

 

SECOND BEST

Merging with the reapers and creating a whole new "cybernetic spieces" if you will. This seem like sort of a compromise. But instead of the Reapers absorbing sapient beeings, the beeings absorb the reapers.

 

THIRD BEST

This is (IMO) actually the worst ending, and even a BAD ending for everyone but Shepard, who seems to survive at the end. IIRC, the entity said that destroying the Reapers would also destroy all other artificial life, meaning that it will take the geth along in the process. So much for establishing peace between the geth and quarians. And eventhough the threat of the Reapers is gone, it would seem that having them on you own side as in the other options is far more desirable.

 

What do you think?

Agree. Besides didn't the "synthetic child God" actually state that destroying the reapers would also result in the deaths of an additional number of organics "no greater than those that had already been killed?"

Shepard wipes out most of humanity but lives to tell the tale. Yeah good ending. What was that line by Garrus - "If you are the only survivor in a war it was still worth it!"

Congratulations you won! This way to extinction! ( I would have said Oblivion but that's another game)

 

[im commander shep]

I never understand the synthesis ending as it is at best only a solution to an issue that we have only just been introduced to. There is no reason there will be peace across the galaxy only that organics and synthetics no longer exist. Standard conflict will still exist beyond that we have no more information. There is no reason to assume the galaxy becomes this utopia now organics and synthetics have merged.

[Dubozz]

Synthesis is an abomination.

[angol fear]

From a story writing viewpoint.... Destroy is the best one.

 

We do learn the technology to rebuild the mass relays and do so in a short time according to the twitter canons. Plus with Destroy there is the greatest chance for conflict, and we know that conflict = story.

 

Destroy = the peace won't last = story = great game

 

Synthesis = peace = no conflict = no story = bad game

 

Control = reapers present as a police force = peace = no conflict = no story = bad game

 

Hence Destroy will be the canon ending for ME3.

 

No from a story writing viewpoint, the three choices are equal. That was what they made with the original ending.

What you're talking about isn't story writing view point, it's player's viewpoint based on character's knowledge during most of the trilogy. The writing point of view is very different.

[Display Name Owner]

My favourite is Destroy since it gives the galaxy a fresh (although gruelling) start. I mean, they can rebuild and do things differently and on their own terms, as opposed to Control which just has the Reapers putting things back the way they were and flying off which always made the whole conflict feel kind of meaningless to me.

 

But objectively... Synthesis. Pains me to say it since I just find it silly, but it's factually the "best". Even if it does it through forced mutation and possibly brainwashing, there's peace, there's advancement, and the safety net of friendly Reapers hanging around. Still won't ever choose it.

[Asharad Hett]

A strange game.

 

The only winning move is not to play.  

 

I vote for this.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 As to the topic itself...

 

Green ending for me. An opportunity to acquire what the Reapers have preserved and empower organics with facilities above their previous condition easily trumps what Red is offering (peace of mind, and that's about it). Blue, in my eyes, is simply another means through which I would seek to get to Green, and it is not inherently preferable (if at all) to choosing Green right now.

 

 

re: common criticisms. I do believe we are ready. If the whole galaxy can band together and find the way to stop the Reapers, I believe they can tackle whatever challenges lie ahead in this ending. It is a choice made in good faith towards its recipients, not a statement of pessimism. Also, I do not believe for a second the those who decry some disregard for individual free choice would themselves defer to the will of the populace if that will was in conflict with what they themselves believed was the best choice -- not even that will was unanimous. All that matters in the decision chamber is what you is best, and let's not kid ourselves otherwise.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

No from a story writing viewpoint, the three choices are equal. That was what they made with the original ending.

What you're talking about isn't story writing view point, it's player's viewpoint based on character's knowledge during most of the trilogy. The writing point of view is very different.

 

From writing a future installment based on the ending. You want conflict in the future installment, not peace.

 

1) Synthesis is peace and understanding throughout the galaxy. Everyone is connected. It will be boring as hell for a game.

 

2) Control has the reapers as the intergalactic police force. It is an army none shall dare oppose. Once again it is peace. A sequel based on this will be boring as hell for a game, unless the Qunari land.

 

That was what I was saying. You missed the point trying to over think what I wrote. Not everything has to be complicated. Destroy leaves the greatest chance for conflict in a sequel. See? Do you understand?

[von uber]

Just out of interest for those who choose the green ending, doesn't it bother you that along with the sexbot you are going to have every single reaper troop running around glowing green as individuals?