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[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Not to mention Joker and EDI's 12 iChildren?

[ImaginaryMatter]

Not to mention Joker and EDI's 12 iChildren?

 

How would that work? Would mammary glands be replaced with USB ports?

[SporkFu]

How would that work? Would mammary glands be replaced with USB ports?

[Valmar]

Just out of interest for those who choose the green ending, doesn't it bother you that along with the sexbot you are going to have every single reaper troop running around glowing green as individuals?

 

For the record the topic question was what the best ending is for the galaxy, not what ending you prefer or choose. I never choose synthesis because how silly it is but I'm still able to acknowledge it as the best, objectively.

 

The whole point of synthesis is that you WON'T be bothered by these silly differences because we're all the same. Peaceful and understanding, yadda yadda.

[ImaginaryMatter]

For the record the topic question was what the best ending is for the galaxy, not what ending you prefer or choose. I never choose synthesis because how silly it is but I'm still able to acknowledge it as the best, objectively.

 

The whole point of synthesis is that you WON'T be bothered by these silly differences because we're all the same. Peaceful and understanding, yadda yadda.

 

I don't think anyone can be objective about Synthesis. There are too many unknown ramifications of altering life in such a way that it invites a lot of reading in.

[SilJeff]

Paragon Control > Destroy >>>>> Renegade Control [the version TIM wanted] > Synthesis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Refuse

[Iakus]

 

The whole point of synthesis is that you WON'T be bothered by these silly differences because we're all the same. Peaceful and understanding, yadda yadda.

 

"These are just a few of the images we've recorded.  And you can see, it wasn't what we thought.  There's been no war here and no terraforming event.  The environment is stable.  It's the Pax. The G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate that we added to the air processors.  It was supposed to calm the population, weed out aggression."

 

[SporkFu]

"These are just a few of the images we've recorded.  And you can see, it wasn't what we thought.  There's been no war here and no terraforming event.  The environment is stable.  It's the Pax. The G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate that we added to the air processors.  It was supposed to calm the population, weed out aggression."

 

While a reaver-like consequence of synthesis -- where a percentage of people in the galaxy react... umm... negatively... to the "joining" -- is obviously not ideal, having something like this be the case for the next ME game(s) has potential to be very interesting. Gotta say I would kinda like finding out that starkid was wrong in his predictions and that those who are left afterwards have to deal with shep's choice. Not necessarily a bad thing. 

[Iakus]

While a reaver-like consequence of synthesis -- where a percentage of people in the galaxy react... umm... negatively... to the "joining" -- is obviously not ideal, having something like this be the case for the next ME game(s) has potential to be very interesting. Gotta say I would kinda like finding out that starkid was wrong in his predictions and that those who are left afterwards have to deal with shep's choice. Not necessarily a bad thing. 

Well, except since this is the whole galaxy, not just one planet, there'd be no one to discover such a consequence.  Everyone's been exposed to the Pax  Synthesis.  And it's in their DNA, so their children will have it too.  And their children.  Every living being, down to the lowest microbe.

[SporkFu]

Well, except since this is the whole galaxy, not just one planet, there'd be no one to discover such a consequence.  Everyone's been exposed to the Pax  Synthesis.  And it's in their DNA, so their children will have it too.  And their children.  Every living being, down to the lowest microbe.

Yeah, but I was kinda thinking that not everyone would react in the same way. I mean, while I'd love a Firefly RPG, I don't want them to simply copy it in ME. 

[im commander shep]

Destroy - best ending with both the information given and what the galaxy expects war won reapers gone. Control - at least the war ends and re-build is faster but always the threat of reapers on galaxy. Synthesis - far to many unknowns galaxy not all the same, krogan synthetic still different from human synthetic so no reason old issues won't return not to mention all the reaper troops. Synthesis only solves the 1 issue of organic synthetic conflict if you accept that it would always happen. Refuse - everyone dead.

[Uncle Jo]

Enjoy the view with Anderson then Alt+F4.

[Reorte]

Well, except since this is the whole galaxy, not just one planet, there'd be no one to discover such a consequence.  Everyone's been exposed to the Pax  Synthesis.  And it's in their DNA, so their children will have it too.  And their children.  Every living being, down to the lowest microbe.

You forgot about the non-living things like hats.

Short-term Control may give you more, long term even if it is to be trusted (hah!) the presence of the Reapers will inevitably hold you back, Synthesis possibly even more so. And that's assuming more technological development is what makes it "best".

"Best" itself is utterly subjective - personally the only definition that makes sense is that it gives you the most fulfilling life. We're the most technologically advanced we've ever been now but I wouldn't call it the best ever time to be alive (and the obsession with having to make everything quicker, faster, and easier is very significantly to blame for that, even if it did drag us out of lousy standards of living).

[DeinonSlayer]

How would that work? Would mammary glands be replaced with USB ports?

*ahem*

[ImaginaryMatter]

*ahem*

 

That doesn't really make me feel better.

[Eterna]

Well, except since this is the whole galaxy, not just one planet, there'd be no one to discover such a consequence.  Everyone's been exposed to the Pax  Synthesis.  And it's in their DNA, so their children will have it too.  And their children.  Every living being, down to the lowest microbe.

 

Yeah, but who cares? 

[Iakus]

Yeah, but who cares? 

Me:  I don't care for Utopia Justifies the Means

 

Nor am I into "fixing" people to meet some others' standards of perfection.  Down that path lies some very, very dark implications.

[Vazgen]

Me:  I don't care for Utopia Justifies the Means

 

Nor am I into "fixing" people to meet some others' standards of perfection.  Down that path lies some very, very dark implications.

The question the Bioware will have to answer is how many people they want to displease. There will be such people in any case. That's what market analysts are for

[Han Shot First]

Destroy all the way.

 

Put yourself in Shepard's boots for a moment, rather than thinking it about like the a player who knows that a sequel will never have any of the three ending choices result in mass extinction. Would you trust the megalomaniacal A.I. and his fleet of thousands of mass-murdering machines, responsible for the mass extinctions of perhaps thousands of sapients species, to embrace peace and protect galactic civilization rather than destroy it? 

 

I don't know about you, but in Shepard's boots I'd shoot the f-king tube before Glow Boy finished a single sentence.

[Valmar]

 

I don't know about you, but in Shepard's boots I'd shoot the f-king tube before Glow Boy finished a single sentence.

 

How did you know to shoot the tube if you didn't talk to the brat? Lol.

[im commander shep]

Destroy all the way.

Put yourself in Shepard's boots for a moment, rather than thinking it about like the a player who knows that a sequel will never have any of the three ending choices result in mass extinction. Would you trust the megalomaniacal A.I. and his fleet of thousands of mass-murdering machines, responsible for the mass extinctions of perhaps thousands of sapients species, to embrace peace and protect galactic civilization rather than destroy it?

I don't know about you, but in Shepard's boots I'd shoot the f-king tube before Glow Boy finished a single sentence.

Exactly, Shepard has already got experience of the reapers lying there is no more reason to just suddenly take what star brat says is truth.

[Khemikael]

My "good" endings are Paragon Control or Renegade Destroy

 

Exactly, Shepard has already got experience of the reapers lying there is no more reason to just suddenly take what star brat says is truth.

Can you be a bit more precise about the lies the reapers said?

And you can't shoot the pipe if you don't trust the catalyst. Well, you can actually but that's very illogical; you don't trust him but you're still doing what he's told.

 

 

(Edited because of typos)

Modifié par Khemikael, 28 novembre 2014 - 03:44 .

[im commander shep]

My "good" endings are Paragon Control or Renegade Destroy

Can yo be a bit more precise about the lies the repears said?
And you can shoot the pipe if you don't trust the catalyst. Well, you can actually but that's very illogical; you don't trust him but you're still doing what he's told.

The reapers throughout the game state they have no beginning have no end. Lie. They can't be destroyed. Lie. There purpose is far to complex for organics to understand. The catalyst explained it ok. My point is that the reapers stretch the truth or out right lie to Shepard. Along comes catalyst who says it controls the reapers so u assume directed the reapers to lie about the mentioned facts (if the reapers are aware of the catalyst A.I. Controlling them that is) so why now should Shepard just except that the catalyst is telling the truth. Especially when it comes to destroy as he is trying to convince you not to pick that option even saying that you will probably die if you do. All this just thinking from shepards point of view of course. Reapers dead = end of war, destroy only way guaranteed to achieve this.

[DeinonSlayer]

Me: I don't care for Utopia Justifies the Means

Nor am I into "fixing" people to meet some others' standards of perfection. Down that path lies some very, very dark implications.

"I believe in something greater than myself. A better world. A world without sin."
"So me and mine gotta lay down and die so you can live in your better world?"
"I'm not going to live there. There's no place for me there, any more than there is for you. Malcolm, I'm a monster. What I do is evil; I have no illusions about it, but it must be done."

[ImaginaryMatter]

Destroy all the way.

 

Put yourself in Shepard's boots for a moment, rather than thinking it about like the a player who knows that a sequel will never have any of the three ending choices result in mass extinction. Would you trust the megalomaniacal A.I. and his fleet of thousands of mass-murdering machines, responsible for the mass extinctions of perhaps thousands of sapients species, to embrace peace and protect galactic civilization rather than destroy it? 

 

I don't know about you, but in Shepard's boots I'd shoot the f-king tube before Glow Boy finished a single sentence.

 

In Shep's boots I don't think I would trust that shooting a tube which looks like it has a volatile fuel coursing through it would activate a complex set of machinery.