I got the quest to trigger pretty easily. Here's a quick breakdown of my save state and what I had done:
- I conscripted mages.
- I rescued everyone in Haven.
- I didn't nail every single approval response for Dorian in Haven.
Once I got Skyhold, I did the EXACT following.
- Said "BIG BAD MUST BE STOPPED!" for Great Approval from Dorian during the initial "speech" portion.
- Left Skyhold IMMEDIATELY and returned.
- I ran upstairs and chatted with Dorian, I got most/all of his approval from the initial Skyhold convo.
- Immediately after we had a follow-up convo about me being a Dwarf in the Carta, this was triggered by the Approval I gained between Haven and here.
- He then had nothing left for me.
- Stopped by the Blacksmith to decorate.
- Talked about Judging on the throne with Josephine but didn't actually judge anyone yet.
- Stopped by Gizelle's in the Garden and talked through all her options just in case.
- Dorian still had nothing for me, so I went to the War Room for the first time, picked Dorian's Request and waited for it to finish. I did absolutely nothing but sit at the war room map. Once it finished I got a "Dorian Approves" message.
- Ran up the stairs from the War Room and Dorian talked about Felix's letter, then Gizelle gave me the quest downstairs. You ABSOLUTELY need to see the letter scene for Gizelle to trigger. That is all tied together.
Now, here's some additional fun facts:
- You don't need to keep leaving and re-entering. You just need Skyhold to be in its "second" phase, with various people, etc. around as opposed to the "I just got here and it looks like a mess." phase from right after the speech. This ensures everything will trigger.
- You can judge Alexius at any time, I was able to get this to trigger both after judging Alexius and before. I did a number of things, I judged Alexius, talked to Dorian about it to gain Approval, went to War Room for Approval on completion, talked to Dorian for scene. I also judged Alexius, went to War Room for Approval on completion, then went to Dorian for scene.
- You CAN exhaust all dialogue options with Dorian in Haven, or at least all of his "phase 1" dialogue. If anything additional shows up in Haven that wasn't there from when you FIRST recruited him this MAY cause an issue. Maybe.
- Untested by me, but according to others your speech during Skyhold doesn't matter in regards to a specific dialogue, but picking the one I did gives you a LARGE amount of approval and thus gets you closer to getting the quest earlier.
My personal theory is that it's either tied to having TOO MUCH approval before Skyhold, having so much approval and having a discussion at Haven that you're not supposed to get until Skyhold (or that is unlocked after the Felix letter for example like asking about Alexius, not be to confused about having gone to see Alexius), OR getting enough approval at Skyhold to see the quest/scene but not going back until you get a significantly larger amount of Approval or progress the Main Quest too a different Skyhold/world state and thus somehow bypass that quest entirely.
Your safest bet, as far as I can tell, is as follows:
- Get Dorian.
- Get Skyhold ASAP.
- Get approval up with Dorian ASAP through dialogue or decisions and not progress the main quest.
- After every bit of approval, return to Skyhold and speak with Dorian. Rinse & repeat until you see the letter scene.
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