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Information on choosing new divine. [Spoilers] [Updated First Post 12/3/14]


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#226
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I somehow got stuck with Viviene for Divine, when I told Leliana I'd support her. There's no way my inquisitor would support her. I guess it's time to march my armies to Orlais and unseat this divine.

Did you ally with the templars or conscript the mages? From what I've seen, I believe (but have yet to prove) Leliana cannot become Divine under those circumstances. 



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Got Viv as Divine.

 

Rescued Templars, did not disband. 

 

Said nothing in the conversation with Leliana about the traitor

 

 

Sided with Celine, exiled Gaspard. (After having the dutchess arrested)

 

Left Stroud in fade, allowed wardens to stay.

 

Told chantry rep that it would be up to the candidates

 

Told Cassandra she would be a good divine

 

Told Leilana I didn't support her as divine

 

Agreed with Viv that Cass would be a good divine.

 

Told Cassandra (in romance dialog) that we would deal with it if she became divine (or something to that effect) 

 

Told Leliana not to kill Cleric in personal quest (but she did it anyway)

 

Got the "support Viv" mission on the wartable, but did not do it.

 

Let Morrigan drink from well



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I was hoping to get Leliana as the Divine, but eh. Too much burnout right now and I don't feel like doing another run.

 

Cassandra as Divine:

 

>Conscripted Templars

>Romanced Cassandra

>Cassandra reformed seekers

>Told Cassandra that her views on the Chantry were admirable

>Dissuaded Leliana from killing the traitor; disscouraged her to kill the sister

>Supported Leliana in dialogue; wartable missions never came up

>Wardens recruited

>Left Alistair in the Fade

>Tried to be helpful to Chantry representative but told her the Inquisition needed both

>Got Celine, Gaspard, and Briala to work for the good of Orlais

>Morrigan drank from the well

>Generally vied for mage freedom via dialogue with Vivienne, Cassandra, etc.

>Answered mostly using "I'm not the herald"/"I don't know" when asked about religion



#229
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I was hoping to get Leliana as the Divine, but eh. Too much burnout right now and I don't feel like doing another run.

 

>Conscripted Templars

>Romanced Cassandra

>Cassandra reformed seekers

>Told Cassandra that her views on the Chantry were admirable

>Dissuaded Leliana from killing the traitor; disscouraged her to kill the sister

>Supported Leliana in dialogue; wartable missions never came up

>Wardens recruited

>Left Alistair in the Fade

>Tried to be helpful to Chantry representative but told her the Inquisition needed both

>Got Celine, Gaspard, and Briala to work for the good of Orlais

>Morrigan drank from the well

>Generally vied for mage freedom via dialogue with Vivienne, Cassandra, etc.

>Answered mostly using "I'm not the herald"/"I don't know" when asked about religion

 

So who ended up being yours? I'm assuming Cass?



#230
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Did you agree wtih Viviene during the course of your conversations with her? Maybe agreeing that the Mages need to be put back under Templar watch causes something?

 

Honestly, from the way you described your situation, this is sounding like it may be a bug?

 

I have agreed at times, but other times I am more indecisive hoping to gain her favor without necessarily agreeing to her extremes. It could potentially be a bug, but I've seen other posts with similar decisions. What I'm trying to comprehend were how the decisions mentioned lessened the potential candidacy for Cassandra. From what I understand, my decisions were nothing particularly against what she believes in. The main factor would probably have to be the conversations with Vivienne. Saddening to not be in her favor, but Cassandra is the best for my particular playthrough.



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Ebony Drake

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So who ended up being yours? I'm assuming Cass?

Woops, looks like I forgot to clarify that, sorry. I got Cassandra as Divine.



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Did you ally with the templars or conscript the mages? From what I've seen, I believe (but have yet to prove) Leliana cannot become Divine under those circumstances. 

Nah Leliana can still become Divine if you side with the Templars.

One of the things that seems to lock out her possibility is Gaspard as sole ruler of Orlais though - I think. Is there anyone her that has gotten Divine Leliana while siding with Gaspard?



#233
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Interesting thread.

 

I got Leliana set as divine. Here's what I did (or what I remember doing at least).

 

Romanced Josephine.

Told Vivienne when we were speaking about it that I would support Cassandra.

Told Leliana that I wouldn't support her

Told the Chantry sister who came to discuss the issue that it would be up to the two Hands if they wanted to go.

Inquisitor drank from the well

Sided with the mages

Encouraged Leliana to kill the traitor, and to kill the lay sister.

Celene I retained her throne

Generally supported Seeker reform.

Didn't do the Support Vivienne War Council mission.



#234
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I got Leliana as Divine
 
1)  Mages were given freedom.
2)  Saved Celene and spared Gaspard/Briala
3)  Morrigan drank from the Well.
4)  Wardens were not disbanded.
5)  I talked to both Cassandra and Leliana about becoming Divine and said to both that they'd make a good choice.
6)  Didn't tell Cassandra to disband the Seekers.
7)  My character took most of the 'I don't believe in any gods/I'm not the Herald' dialog.
 

 

 

I think it would swing it towards Leliana.

 

 

Mine was almost the same except for me drinking from the well (why would that have to do anything with the topic at hand btw, I wonder) and I got Cassandra.

Why? Because I supported her at the war table by operation (which at that time, was the only choice given to me as the Leliana cinematic and her quest triggered much later - great timing BW!).

Cassandra is obviously not a bad choice and Leliana also a great spy master/left hand of the Divine, but all in all, Leliana's approach sounded much better in the end. Told her I would support her, but no war table operation was given anymore.

So not surprisingly, I got (stuck with) Cassandra in the end.

I would be surprised if anything outside of said War table operation would matter.



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Can you update the first post with what each divine does when they are elected? Need to know to make my choice on who to support



#236
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Adding my 2 cents~

 

 

 

Who became your divine?

 

Sadly, Leliana, even though I didn't support her...

 

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)

 

Mages, and they were free.

 

 

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)

 

I don't even remember? I believe I said the Chantry needs to be reformed or they need to be free.

 

 

How did you treat the chantry ambassador who inquires about the next divine? (Complied, told them no, etc.)

 

Told them no.

 

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate?

 

I don't even think I got any? 

 

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?

 

Leliana asked for my support and I said no... This was right after she cut that girl's throat. 

 

 

Who did you side with on the civil war?

 

The mages and templars? I sided with the mages.

 

Cassandra disband the seekers?

 

No, she reformed them.

 

Cassandra romanced?

 

No.

 

Cutscene from Mother Giselle talking to Cassandra, or Leliana about becoming the next divine?

 

Don't believe so.

 

Encouraged Leliana to kill traitor in Haven, thus hardening her or told her not to kill him?

 

Didn't say anything.



#237
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Can i still help Vivienne finding the tomes? :)



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Cassandra as Divine.

Allied with the mages in a free alliance.

Dalish non believer. I even got to tell Corypheus "I believe in no gods".

Responded to the ambassador with confusion if I recall.

Supported Cassandra on the war table.

Supported Cassandra through dialogue and told Leliana she was bonkers.

Celene alive and peace with all 3 was achieved in the civil war.

Cassandra reformed the seekers IIRC.

Cass not romanced.

Don't remember Giselles cutscene.

Told Leliana to let the traitor go.

 

Also drank the cool aid.



#239
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Wow, I'm actually surprised Vivienne could also become Divine.

 

Alas, another playthrough is due, then.



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Jaron Oberyn

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Can you update the first post with what each divine does when they are elected? Need to know to make my choice on who to support

 

I'm going to be revamping the entire first post soon, I will be sure to add that information to it when I do 


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#241
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Second playthrough, I got Viv:

 

- freed templars

- let grey wardens stay (loghain died)

- Generally said that Chantry needed to reform

- was a believer in elven pantheon

- supported Viv in war table quest

- romanced Cullen (yeah, I don't think that influences anything)

- Leliana was allowed to kill everyone she wanted (lay sister and traitor)

- Celene held the thrown, with Gaspard killed and Briala exiled

 

 

So the major difference regarding the playthrough where I got Leliana was that I freed the mages in that one. And despite Celene being on the throne, Gaspard was still alive as well. And I urged Leliana not to shed blood (she did anyway, I think there is dialogue that influences her becoming nice a bit more). 



#242
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Question,

 

I got Leliana as the Divine.

 

(I was all over the place with what I was picking for responses since the way certain things were phrased my character agreed with, and then would agree with someone elsde who said something contradictory if it was phrased in such a way that made sense)

 

Does HOW the Divine riles change based on anything?

 

'Cause the whole idea of Leliana being Divine and having the halls run with blood kind of scares me.



#243
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Morrigan for Divine!


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#244
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Question,

I got Leliana as the Divine.

(I was all over the place with what I was picking for responses since the way certain things were phrased my character agreed with, and then would agree with someone elsde who said something contradictory if it was phrased in such a way that made sense)

Does HOW the Divine riles change based on anything?

'Cause the whole idea of Leliana being Divine and having the halls run with blood kind of scares me.


For Leliana, it's based on how you interact with her choice in the game.

If you told her to spare traitor, agree with her decision to pullback her scout and prevent her from killing sister, she will handle the revolt peacefully.

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Cassandra as Divine.

Allied with the mages in a free alliance.

Dalish non believer. I even got to tell Corypheus "I believe in no gods".

Responded to the ambassador with confusion if I recall.

Supported Cassandra on the war table.

Supported Cassandra through dialogue and told Leliana she was bonkers.

Celene alive and peace with all 3 was achieved in the civil war.

Cassandra reformed the seekers IIRC.

Cass not romanced.

Don't remember Giselles cutscene.

Told Leliana to let the traitor go.

 

Also drank the cool aid.

 

I'm happy to see this, since all of the other posts mentioning Cassandra involved conscripting either the mages or templars!

So far I've supported Cassandra in dialogue, got her war table support mission and did it, talked to Leliana about it but didn't really get an option to support her or not, talked to Vivienne and agreed with her that Cassandra was the best choice. Fingers crossed!



#246
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In my playthrough Leliana became the Divine.

Leliana was made ruthless.

I conscripted the mages as free partners.

Morrigan drank from the well.

Wardens were saved and recruited into the Inquisition.

I discouraged Cassandra from being the divine through dialogue.

I encouraged Cassandra to reform the Seekers after her personal quest.

I never did Viviennes quests and her approval of me was low.

#247
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i got all three but choosing viv

 

 told the mother to let them decide, i didn't support either one

 told leil not to kill the spy {and to use the spy as a double  agent }and not to kill the sister when she get the box

told cas that i dont believe but is starting to, told to make them better but didn't encourage her to reform them

allied with the mages{ always allies with  the mages in my cannon play thru}I conscripted the mages as free partners

 kept the wardens and  now they work for me, also saved a group of templars told them to work for me{ so yes its  really fun to have all three mages,  non red templars and wardens together} { its very easy to get the non red templars to join your group{ very small group there leader will be in skyhold

supported celene, but gaspard and barial both are gone{ ie her cus dead had to judge a box}

 the civil war is over

 and now i got the quest after telling viv that she should be the next divine

 havent gotten to the well drinking yet

 

edit i did some of viv quest which was sad her { not going to spoil it for you guys}

but i also did some lei, cass quest also finishing up the killing the old seekers

also saved Fairbanks and told the elf girl about who he is and that he is of noble birth now i have quest for the inquisition to  use his connections

also i have the elf guy that wanted to join the inquistion and micheal

 

i feel i am missing a person in my war room for some reason morrgan, lei, cull, josie  there another part that when i walk in  morg is on my left side, but the right side of me is empty like there someone that should be there

 

 wonder what the out come will be since your all sound slightly different from mine with exception to not getting celene dead

 

as for approval i cant see it { i.e is there bar that tells you besides what pops up from time to time} is there way to see how they are with me on the rating?



#248
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In my playthrough Leliana became the Divine.

Leliana was made ruthless.

I conscripted the mages as free partners.

Morrigan drank from the well.

Wardens were saved and recruited into the Inquisition.

I discouraged Cassandra from being the divine through dialogue.

I encouraged Cassandra to reform the Seekers after her personal quest.

I never did Viviennes quests and her approval of me was low.

What do you mean you conscripted mages as free partners? If you conscript them, they aren't free, and if they are free partners, you didn't conscript them.



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What do you mean you conscripted mages as free partners? If you conscript them, they aren't free, and if they are free partners, you didn't conscript them.

 

Sorry, the mages were free partners of the Inquisition.  I used the word "conscript" in its loosest definition to mean recruited.



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Sorry, the mages were free partners of the Inquisition.  I used the word "conscript" in its loosest definition to mean recruited.

Ah, I see. I was curious, because I have yet to see endings where Leliana is Divine AND mages were conscripted.