Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
Cassandra.
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Mages, as free allies.
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
I told Vivienne we needed Circles back. I encouraged Cassandra's "idealistic" views on the Chantry. I don't remember for Dorian :S
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
Yes, it appeared after the first dialogue with Cassandra where I could support her through the "Nobility Knowledge" option.
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Supported Cassandra, through her dialogues, but also with Vivienne. Didn't encourage Leliana to be a candidate.
Who did you side with on the civil war?
Celene, reconciled with Briala.
Fate of the Wardens (Allies or Disbanded)?
Allied with Wardens.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
No, told Cassandra to "make them better".
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
My Quizz stayed silent during the traitor dialogue at Haven (so she killed him).
Told her she was right to keep her scouts safe.
Leliana killed the Chantry sister (since you can't stop her and make her "unhardened" if you didn't soften her in the two precedent dialogues).
I think I'm going to try having Leliana unhardened as Divine for the next, with Templar conscripted. Don't know if that's possible.
Just wondering, do the rumors in Val Royeaux help give an idea of who is likely to become divine in your playthrough? I got a rumor which said that the clerics were leaning towards making Leliana divine in my game and another rumor which said that Vivienne was a potential candidate but that it was highly unlikely she would be chosen. My game made the choices leaning towards Leliana so I'm wondering if anyone else who made choices supporting the other candidates noticed anything different about the rumors?
I supported Cassandra as Divine and heard NPCs banters for each candidate. I vaguely remember NPCs saying Vivienne being a mage was a major drawback. Cassandra being a warrior was mentioned, and them basically saying "no more fooling around with this one" . I don't remember for Leli, except that she knew Justinia.
Just wondering, do the rumors in Val Royeaux help give an idea of who is likely to become divine in your playthrough? I got a rumor which said that the clerics were leaning towards making Leliana divine in my game and another rumor which said that Vivienne was a potential candidate but that it was highly unlikely she would be chosen. My game made the choices leaning towards Leliana so I'm wondering if anyone else who made choices supporting the other candidates noticed anything different about the rumors?
Yeah, I heard the rumors about Vivienne becoming the next Divine and she did in my playthru
So...there is possiblity of romancing Cassandra and not having her becoming a Divine? I really like the romance subplot and I just can't stand a thought that I could lose her to Chantry.
So please tell me good people, is that possible?
Yes, my inquisitor romanced her and Vivienne became divine
The choice for the new Divine at the end of the game is from what we know dependent on your choices throughout the game, not just who you decide to throw your support to.
Some of the biggest choices that may affect your candidate.
Mages/Templars – Conscription, or Freed?
Conscription falls in line with Reform/Status Quo, while Freedom seems to favor rebuilt. Currently it is unknown if choosing one or the other locks in specific candidates. But if you’re aiming for a specific one, choosing the choice that will fall in favor with your ideal candidate would be the best option.
How did you express your views on the Chantry? Mages need to be free/chantry rebuilt from ground up? The chantry and circles were fine as is? Chantry needs to be reformed?
You have conversations with your companions/npcs throughout the game where you get to voice your opinions of the Chantry. Some of the companions include Dorian, Vivienne, Cassandra, and your advisor Leliana. (There are more npcs, but these are just a few). This seems to bear the most weight when it comes to determining the candidate at the end of the game.
Some other choices that may affect your candidate.
Who you side with at the Winter Palace.
Warden decision
As of now we don’t know for sure if the choices you are given with these scenarios affect the Divine appointment. But in the event that it may, we’ve been including them in our lists.
What does each Divine do when they are chosen?
Cassandra: Reforms the chantry, righting past wrongs without avenging them.
Vivienne: Status quo. Basically the same old chantry, but with mages given more power within their reinstated Circles. She also restores the Templar Order.
Leliana Hardened: Rebuilds the chantry to allow mage freedom, and opening the chantry to all races and genders. Deals with sects that rise in opposition violently. Blood is said to run down the halls of the chantry.
Leliana Softened: Rebuilds the chantry to allow mage freedom, and opening the chantry to all races and genders. Deals with sects that rise in opposition peacefully, and eventually unites them.
Templates
Right now it’s still to early to pinpoint exactly what contributes to the candidate that is chosen, but it is fairly reasonable to say that your expressed Chantry views as well as the mage/templar freedom/conscription choices play a large role. Here are 3 templates that you can use to see what sort of choices leads to the desired outcome. I played 3 playthroughs, with the intention of getting specific divines and in all 3 I succeeded. Here is how:
Cassandra Divine
Romanced Cassandra
Conscripted Mages
Sided with Gaspard at Winter Palace
Exiled Wardens
Chantry reform dialogue choices
No war table operations were made available
Voiced support for Leliana (to no avail based on previous choices throughout game)
[Should also be noted, I tried to discourage Cassandra from accepting in the romance dialogue but it had no affect. More information on that below.]
Leliana Softened Divine
Romanced Cassandra
Freed Mages
Sided with Celene at Winter Palace
Allowed Wardens to stay
Mage Freedom/Rebuild chantry dialogue choices
No war table operations were made available
Told Leliana not to kill the traitor back in Haven.
Told Leliana that she did right in pulling her scouts back, that they aren’t tools to be discarded. (Dialogue with her after Haven attack).
Told Leliana not to kill the Sister in the Chantry.
Voiced support for Leliana.
[For romance purposes, I attempted to get a playthrough where Cassandra was neither divine, nor leaving to rebuild the seekers. Here is how I was able to do so.]
Told Cassandra to let the Seekers go after her quest
Did not agree with Cassandra on her views of the chantry. Told her that I did not want the same things she wanted for the chantry.
After her talk with Mother Giselle, told her that there were other ways to help the chantry besides becoming Divine.
Told her to refuse the role if she was offered.
[This resulted in an ending where she was neither divine, nor leaving to rebuild seekers. Ends up staying with the inquisition. I should note that because you have to take opposite views of the chantry with her on this, you will need to do around 4/5 of the targets of her quest in order to have sufficient approval to romance her.]
Vivienne Divine
Offered Templars full alliance (they didn’t integrate with the inquisition)
Sided with Celene at Winter Palace
Exiled Wardens
Pro Chantry/Circle Dialogue for the most part. Anti Chantry/Mage Freedom dialogue with Cassandra.
Expressed that mages should be in the chantry to Vivienne.
Told Vivienne that she would be a great choice when discussing Cassandras candidacy.
Did operation on war table to support Vivienne. (With a max of 20 influence, not sure if that mattered).
Voiced support for Leliana as Divine in conversation with her as well.
[Vivienne’s was a little tricky, as some of the dialogue options that would seemingly support her would also do the same for Cassandra. That was why when I talked specifically to Cassandra, I would express anti chantry/mage freedom dialogue. In order to try to cancel her out and put Viv on top. I essentially agreed with everything Vivienne said when talking with her, aside from her views on Cassandra as divine where I said Viv herself would be the better choice.]
War Table Operations
So people have been mentioning throughout the thread that they had operations to support each of the 3 candidates. In all of my 3 playthroughs, I only had an operation to support Vivienne. My theory is that this only happens if you have conflicting views on the chantry throughout the game, which I sort of did as mentioned above.
Another thing to consider is the text in the operations summary. It mentions that the operation could backfire, as the chantry doesn’t necessarily like public endorsements. It is unclear whether or not your influence level has any affect on this, or if this really matters at all. For Viviennes operation, I had a max of 20 influence.
More To Do
These are just some templates to give players an idea of what they need to strive for in order to land their ideal candidate. We could still narrow things down a little more, so it will be useful to continue collecting information. If you have information you feel should be added to the main post, please contact me. If you would like to keep a record of your playthrough and submit information that can be used to help narrow things further, please use the following form:
Spoiler
Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Who did you side with on the civil war?
Cassandra disband the seekers?
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?
Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
what Quo means? not at the ferry end yet, i had dialogue with all 3, cass refused, she answered to me, u haven't lost me yet, when i said i wont lose u to Chantry, to viv i said what about Lil, she just disproved & that was all, i said to Lil i support her, approval with all companions should be pretty high, new i'm just w8 for ressults
can female inquisitor become Divine, to me cass said i cant cause i am male, so i wonder can i if i'm female?
Status Quo meaning reinstate the circles, and essentially keep the chantry as it was. Unfortunately those dialogue choices you mentioned don't have so much weight as your decisions/chantry dialogue throughout the game does. And no, the female inquisitor cannot become the divine as far as I'm aware.
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Mages, free.
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
A mix, really. That mages deserved freedom mostly, but also agreed that there was some danger.
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
Don't recall, don't think so.
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Said I'd support Leliana to her. Did not mention this to others.
Who did you side with on the civil war?
Celene, spared Gaspard, did not turn in Briala (but didn't give her help either), sent Florianne to work at a farm.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
Told her she could improve them.
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?
Don't remember the traitor, but she killed the chantry sister.
Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
That she was right.
Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
Vivienne
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Mages, conscripted
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
Mixed overall , agreed with Vivviene , told Cassandra the Chantry is failing in the last conversations (before that agreeing mostly). Dont remember if Dorian had any lines about this topic.
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
none , didn't saw any
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Supported Leliana , also told Vivienne about Leliana as Divine
Who did you side with on the civil war?
Celene
Fate of the Wardens (Allies or Disbanded)?
Allied with Wardens.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
Used the romance option , so likely means not to disband them (in the end she said about reforming the seekers)
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
killed traitor/killed sister at chantry/told was right to keep scouts safe
few more notes :
romanced Cassandra , did all Vivienne quests making her a "friend". Drank from the well too.
Told Cassandra to refuse divine in romance conversation.
I thought it will be Leliana at the end as divine but i got Vivienne insted.
From the first post id say its because i didnt free the mages and didn't support Briala (according to the Bioware dev post) didnt get Leliana ?
Also i think if i didn't choose the romance option in conversation with cassandra about Seekers and told her to forget about the seekers she would not want to reform at the end when Vivienne was chosen as divine. Thats one of the way to do it.
I guess the major points because i didnt get Leliana as divine is because i didnt free the mages and didnt support Briala right ?
when i make 3th, 2H warrior, he will be bit more strict, supports Mage Freedom, But cause what she did, my char will trow her in jail, i mean Fiona, i mean the other option not join as allies option, & Cass is better as a Divine then Viv, with Viv all remain same, but cass admitted that Chantry needs to change, i consider her a Neutral option, Viv bad, but again, 100% freedom mote be disaster like that Devinter mage who joined me said, only time can tell, but i'm totally against Viv, sometimes i skip dialog with by doing quest w8 for new dialogue, just to avoid her leaving, if some missions give her disapproval fine, but if she starts bitching i rather not talk to her, i did the same with my elf mage (playing to char's cause one is near end & my people doing operations, so i w8 when they are done), when she is in my party with Solas & i hear her i don't want to kill her just want to give her arrow in the ass & tape her mouth , she is like shes all knowing, dam Solas has much more experience then her, & for Viv its good to talk about that restoring the old order is necessary cause she had good life while in Kirkwall & ferelden mages were treated like slaves, Templars abusing them, u do remember story's that Anders told, at lest Cass would change things a little, THX god i can replace her new from my party with that Devinter guy
when it comes to this elections, i believe that it depends on dialogue a lot, like when i don't chose option about where u say mages should be free then u wont get Lil, if u talk with Viv, if u support chantry then she will become divine, if u support chantry a bit with talking with Cass she will become Divine, well i think it works like this, its similar to how in DA2 u set ur char personality, diplomatic sarcastic or aggressive, only difference its more about 2 things not just talk, Talk + Peron u talk with, & i think even if u say it to NPC mage that they should be free, it will effect end result, one thing people can try, with Viv never say that u support chantry & that stuff, with cass say u support her way of restoring chantry, if u don't like Viv, at least u avoid her becoming... well i will test it, but even so there still mite be surprises that changes end, like u think ur doing awry thing like u want, but in the end its not like u wanted, even a bug is possible that messes it up for u
90% i support mages, usually my response is free mages, but with some chars i will try different things, like even when helping Templar's Lil as Divine, & supporting mages & cass as Divine
strange, when coriffious attacked Haven my elf ranger did not have 1 option, that it was gift from Andraste, Elf Mage had that option, does it has to do with Elf mage being a keeper & about mages knowledge about magic, not that i would use that option with elf, with 1 human warrior, i will be strong believer that i am what people call me , i just wonder how meany things effect dialogue, race & class both? + info u get from books, it seems more complicated the previous games
Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
Vivianne
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Templars, full aliance
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
This time my mage Inquisitor was a believer and pro-maker.
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
I did some quests for Vivanne, not knowing they were personal. I also did her personal quest.
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Nope, I supported Leliana all the time.
Who did you side with on the civil war?
I sided with Celene.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
Nope, she remained.
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?
She killed the traitor. I told her to do it.
Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
First playthrough, I freed the mages, kept Celene alive, supported Cassandra both through conversations and he war table operation (including telling her to reform the Seekers) and got her as Divine. I know some were worried that the first two choices would automatically stop that possibility, so I just wanted to reassure that it is still possible.
Of course, that was before I had any idea what it all was contributing toward. I was hoping to get Leliana as Divine on my current playthough, but given the info here, and the fact that I accidentally hardened her (*sniff*), not to sure now...
@slick_ktm - Those decisions are big, but not necessarily final. That you gave mixed views on the chantry no doubt played a large role in that as well. I was able to get Leliana as the Divine by freeing mages and siding with Celene, not Briala. Telling Cass to forget about the seekers does indeed lead to her not rebuilding them at the end. The romance option in that dialogue exchange leads to her rebuilding them.
@Sugram84 - Race and Class both impact dialogue options you are given throughout the game, as well as how people react to you.
@LadyWench - Whether Leliana is hardened or not doesn't impact whether she becomes divine, only the sort of divine she is (ruthless vs peaceful).
- Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable):
Leliana (softened)
- Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free):
Mages, free
- When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed):
Mages need to be free, Chantry needs to be reformed
- Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?:
No, Didn't notice any War Table missions
- Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?:
I told Leliana that I'd support her. I spoke with Cassandra but didn't offer my support (I didn't mention support at all)
- Who did you side with on the civil war?:
All three worked together
- Cassandra disband the seekers?:
Told her to rebuild them
- Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?:
Told her to spare the traitor and the Chantry Sister
- Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?:
Hey everyone! Back from my hiatus. Literally just beat Inquisition like a half hour ago. 134 hours to complete one full playthrough. Amazing.
I am mostly satisfied except I was a little stunned by who became Divine in my ending. Though I was super supportive of Cassandra (and had her romanced), Vivienne became Divine. I'm not opposed to it, I felt Cassandra and Vivienne were both better choices than Leliana at least. Still, I feel Cassandra was the best choice, and honestly I was willing to give up my romance for it to happen.
Anyway, here are my results. This was my first and "most genuine" playthrough, where all my decisions were made organically. I had no influence from any outside sources and have been spoiler-free leading up to the game's conclusion. Enjoy!
Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
Vivienne
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Mages, Conscription
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
Told Vivienne the Mages needed the Chantry. Don't remember what I told Dorian..
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
Did Cassandra's Support war table operation.
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Supported Cassandra. Refuse support to Leliana. Didn't even bring up the notion of being Divine with Vivienne.
Who did you side with on the civil war?
Celene, spared Gaspard.
Fate of the Wardens (Allies or Disbanded)?
Allied the Wardens with the Inquisition.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
No. Told her to "make them better."
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
Don't remember Haven, but told her to spare the Sister at the Chantry. She killed her anyway.
Told her she was right to keep her scouts safe.
Gah, I'll admit I'm a little bitter about this. Still, damn good game.
I think you mean you told vivienne "Mages need to be in the chantry". That was a dialogue option that leads to her becoming the pick. Picking Gaspard also seems to be a choice that favors Cassandra when it comes to the Winter Palace decision, so that as well given you chose Celene.
If Cassandra becomes divine and if you are romancing her, does the romance between The Inquisitor and Cassandra end? I certainly hope not!
It occurs to me that many people don't read the first post.
Yes, if Cass becomes divine, the romance ends. If she doesn't become the divine, and either reforms the seekers, or doesn't and stays with the inquisition the romance doesn't end.
Right now it’s still to early to pinpoint exactly what contributes to the candidate that is chosen, but it is fairly reasonable to say that your expressed Chantry views as well as the mage/templar freedom/conscription choices play a large role. Here are 3 templates that you can use to see what sort of choices leads to the desired outcome.
More To Do
These are just some templates to give players an idea of what they need to strive for in order to land their ideal candidate. We could still narrow things down a little more, so it will be useful to continue collecting information. If you have information you feel should be added to the main post, please contact me. If you would like to keep a record of your playthrough and submit information that can be used to help narrow things further, please use the following form:
Great thread. Just finished my first playthrough and was very surprised about who became Divine. Once I learned I could influence who became the new Divine, I went after one specific, but got a completely different result (ofcourse my least preferred), so I will definately try this template. My experience and choices for potentiel use in the template are listed in the spoiler tags.
Spoiler
Who became your divine?
Vivienne became Divine. Don't know if there are different epilogue screens, but it sounded like she almost causes several wars.
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Sided with Templars, allied with them (no consription into the Inquisition)
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
I typically acted in two ways depending on the mage question or the chantry as a whole question; I agreed the Chantry should be changed going forward (Cassandras ideals in essence), but I do recall agreeing with Vivienne during my first conversation with her after recruitment, that the Circle had a place.
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
I got two war table operations. The whole experience was this:
After the Wicked Hearts main quest (where I sided with Celene), I came back to Skyhold to witness Josephine talking to a priest wanting Leliana and Cassandra to join the debates (I am guessing this is standard?). I then went about my normal companion/advisor talking round, but only the conversation with Cassandra brought up the whole potential Divine talk, so I asked what she would do with it and if she actually wanted it (to which she said yes). After this I got the war table operation to support Cassandra.
I didn't enable that war table operation at the time, so after finishing up the last adventures zones and doing the Temple of Mythal main quest, I once again talked to all companions and advisors. This time both Leliana and Vivienne talked about the Divine. Leliana's conversation forced me into either supporting Leliana or tell her to forget about my support. I told her I would support her. Vivienne talked to me about the position as a whole and I constantly chose the neutral answer saying as little as possible, asked her for her advice (she recommended Cassandra). Then I said to Vivienne, that I needed to think about it. After this I got Support Vivienne as Divine for a war table operation (though I never brushed the possibility with her). The Support Cassandra operation remained, but no Support Leliana, which surprised me a bit. Anyway I went ahead with the Support Cassandra operation.
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Yes, Leliana. But she was the only one where I got the option to do so (support as in the dialogue wheel showed the effect being giving my support.
Who did you side with on the civil war?
I sided with Celene. Gaspard and Briala was both exiled.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
No, I told her she could rebuild into something better, which she ended up doing
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?
Leliana killed the traitor even though I told her to not do it. I am guessing this is because I missed some opportunity to soften her?
Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
She was told, that she was right to keep the scouts safe.
Some thoughts of mine:
Looking at the template you have compiled, I seem to have taken many different steps from each of the four possibilities, and after reading this I began thinking whether Bioware has set Vivienne as a default if you do conflicting stuff due to Vivienne being very good at the Game.
Update: Did a quick replay of the late game choices to test. Instead of the above I told Leliana that I would not support her, I did the Support Cassandra operation, and I said to Vivienne that I supported Cassandra (which she agreed on), but I still got Vivienne as the new Divine. Either telling Cassandra to rebuild the Seekers completely eliminated her as an option, or Bioware has made it difficult to get any but the worst choice for the position.
Who did you side with: mages/templars and under what condition? (Conscription, free) Mages, they are free allies
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed) Mostly neutral responses/reform chantry
How did you treat the chantry ambassador who inquires about the next divine? (Complied, told them no, etc.) I told her it was up to them
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? I don't remember getting any
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? I suported both Leliana and Cassandra through dialogue, told Cass to reform the Chantry, didn't support Vivienne
Who did you side with on the civil war? Celene. Gaspard punished, Briala exiled (I never found the locket )
Encouraged Leliana to kill traitor in Haven, thus hardening her or told her not to kill him?
Told her not to kill him, told her she was right to save the scouts, didn't let her kill the sister
Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
softened Leliana
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Mages, freed
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
mixed. mages need to be freed, chantry to exists but reformed
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
none, have both cassandra and vivienne but wanted leliana as divine so didn't do both
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
shows interest in all three and verbally supported both cass and leli
Who did you side with on the civil war?
celene saved, told all three to cooperate since i have the dirt on all of them
Fate of the Wardens (Allies or Disbanded)?
Allied with Wardens.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
reform? can't remember but she told me about her book and her thoughts to rebuild seekers. i think i asked her to decide herself?
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
@slick_ktm - Those decisions are big, but not necessarily final. That you gave mixed views on the chantry no doubt played a large role in that as well. I was able to get Leliana as the Divine by freeing mages and siding with Celene, not Briala. Telling Cass to forget about the seekers does indeed lead to her not rebuilding them at the end. The romance option in that dialogue exchange leads to her rebuilding them.
Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
Cassandra
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Mages, free.
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
Generally pro-chantry but strong reform. Suggested mages could be added to the chantry hierarchy to Vivienne at Haven, agreed/admired with both Cassandra and Leliana's visions of the chantry as a force for good.
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
Only got the operation to support Cassandra, but did not do it.
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Used the 'crown' option to suggest I would support Cassandra in dialogue just after the idea was broached; used the 'important choice arrow option' to support Leliana in dialogue after her personal quest. Did not bring up the possibility of Vivienne as a divine when speaking to her about it.
Who did you side with on the civil war?
Reconciled Celene and Briala; Gaspard executed.
Fate of the Wardens (Allies or Disbanded)?
Allied with the Wardens.
Cassandra disband the seekers?
No, I believe I encouraged her to re-form and rebuild them if that was her wish.
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
Convinced Leliana to spare both the traitor and Natalie, she was definitely softened.
Would have really liked softened Leliana as Divine. I like the idea of her arc going from a new hopeful lay sister in Lothering to having a destiny as Divine, even if her faith was tested in between. Plus, then Cassandra could focus on the Seekers (and ride off into the sunset with Varric...leave my head-canons be!) but Cassandra was my next choice. The Circles as they were were clearly unworkable and Cassandra's heart is in the right place. Still, I also got the 'everyone fears the Inquisition's army' epilogue slide even though I deliberately made sure I had 9 perks in secrets and 8 in forces, so I guess I'll have to tweak things in the keep.
I've done two complete playthroughs. I'll differentiate them with a /
Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)
Leliana, softened / Cassandra
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)
Mages, free. / Templars, conscripted (not full allies)
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)
Both of my characters were not very pro-chantry. But...
Chantry needed reform, if it were to continue existing / Chantry is useless, but circles are necessary
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?
Supported Cassandra at the war table / Supported Vivienne at the war table
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?
Supported all three of them through dialogue / Supported Vivienne through dialogue (told Cass "Maybe there's a better way" and told Leliana I would not support her)
Who did you side with on the civil war?
Celene, with Briala exiled (tried to get them on friendlier terms) and Gaspard executed / Gaspard as Briala's puppet
Fate of the Wardens (Allies or Disbanded)?
Allied with the Wardens / Disbanded the Wardens
Cassandra disband the seekers?
Encouraged to rebuild / Told her "it's not my decision"
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?
Leliana 100% softened / Leliana 100% hardened
Well of Sorrows
Morrigan drank / Inquisitor drank
Supporting characters at the war table has done absolutely nothing for me so far.
I'm sure this has been discovered already but I just found it, if you want to know which way the wind is blowing on your current playthrough, run around Val Royeaux and listen to the ambient chatter. There'll usually be some talk about who is the most favoured candidate, and from my experience it's the one who ends up getting the position each time.
I'm sure this has been discovered already but I just found it, if you want to know which way the wind is blowing on your current playthrough, run around Val Royeaux and listen to the ambient chatter. There'll usually be some talk about who is the most favoured candidate, and from my experience it's the one who ends up getting the position each time.
That is good to know. How soon into the story does the chatter begin, and do you know if it's possible tomchange the result once it begins?
. I don't remember for Leli, except that she knew Justinia.
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, she is like shes all knowing, dam Solas has much more experience then her, & for Viv its good to talk about that restoring the old order is necessary cause she had good life while in Kirkwall & ferelden mages were treated like slaves, Templars abusing them, u do remember story's that Anders told, at lest Cass would change things a little, THX god i can replace her new from my party with that Devinter guy
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