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[Adian]

I got Vivienne with almost the exact opposite for what you have listed for her.

Offered Templars full alliance (they didn’t integrate with the inquisition)

 

Sided with Celene at Winter Palace

 

Exiled Wardens

 

Pro Chantry/Circle Dialogue for the most part. Anti Chantry/Mage Freedom dialogue with Cassandra.

 

Expressed that mages should be in the chantry to Vivienne.

 

Told Vivienne that she would be a great choice when discussing Cassandras candidacy.

 

Did operation on war table to support Vivienne. (With a max of 20 influence, not sure if that mattered).

 

 

Voiced support for Leliana as Divine in conversation with her as well.

I conscripted the Templars to be part of the Inquisition

I sided with Celene

I Allowed the Wardens to stay

I was generally anti circle, pro Chantry reform

Said that mages should be part of the Chantry

Told Viv that Cassandra would make a good Divine

Did the war table operation to support Cassandra

 

I am mad that Vivienne got it, she was probably the most punch worthy of the entire group.

I was actually hoping for the option to ask her to leave, because she was such an unlikable person who's views where so different from mine.

[Sugram84]

that much i know, influence Level effects Dialogue, like 1 dialogue cut scene what i was W8 did not happen until i got influence to 16 or was it 17, after that i went i just figured i try to talk to her again & bang it happened, so that mite also play role with who u support, also it may give special dialogue option when ur in lower Levels if i have higher influence then u should, some hard to get options & Ester Eggs, some game Dev's love to do things like that

[Jaron Oberyn]

Can you remember the specific scene? I think the jury is still out on whether influence really affects dialogue or the divine operations outcome. 

[xnarcosysx]

Major problem for me.  I know for a FACT that told Leliana to NOT kill her agent at the beginning.  She just killed the sister when i told her not too.  I dont know how she just got hardened but this was my playthrough to have Leliana be a SOFTENED divine and ive already made conversations and decisions to push her towards Divine like Briala ruling with Gaspard.  Guess im kind of stuck.  Cant wait for the DAI Keep side to come through and fix it.

[Sugram84]

Major problem for me.  I know for a FACT that told Leliana to NOT kill her agent at the beginning.  She just killed the sister when i told her not too.  I dont know how she just got hardened but this was my playthrough to have Leliana be a SOFTENED divine and ive already made conversations and decisions to push her towards Divine like Briala ruling with Gaspard.  Guess im kind of stuck.  Cant wait for the DAI Keep side to come through and fix it.

did u have talk with her at the beginning (Haven)? where cut scene comes & she order to kill some guy (maybe he was spy) who betrayed her, that mite be deciding point, if u let her she will kill that sister

[thesuperdarkone2]

did u have talk with her at the beginning (Haven)? where cut scene comes & she order to kill some guy (maybe he was spy) who betrayed her, that mite be deciding point, if u let her she will kill that sister

You also have to talk to her in Skyhold and say that she was right to pull her agents back.

[xnarcosysx]

did u have talk with her at the beginning (Haven)? where cut scene comes & she order to kill some guy (maybe he was spy) who betrayed her, that mite be deciding point, if u let her she will kill that sister

I told her to not kill abd i took the spy route. Idk if I talked to her in skyhold about it. I faintly remember something about it.

[Jagrevi]

I love this. This is fun.

[rda]

Got Viv as Divine.

Allied with Templars.
Reunited Celene with Briala, executed Gaspard,
dialogue kind of all over the place, mostly agreed with whomever was standing in front of me.
When chantry rep came, told them we needed Leli and Cass.
Talked to Cass afterward, picked most negative dialogues possible (chantry has outlived its usefulness, etc.)
Talked to Leli, and was negative as possible as well.
Talked to Viv, suggested she'd be a great Divine, did her war table mission.

[Frenrihr]

Does anyone know if this is true?

 

http://www.reddit.co...ance_at_end_of/

 

Its about the warden and lelianas fate if she becomes divine.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Major problem for me.  I know for a FACT that told Leliana to NOT kill her agent at the beginning.  She just killed the sister when i told her not too.  I dont know how she just got hardened but this was my playthrough to have Leliana be a SOFTENED divine and ive already made conversations and decisions to push her towards Divine like Briala ruling with Gaspard.  Guess im kind of stuck.  Cant wait for the DAI Keep side to come through and fix it.

You have to tell her not to kill Butler, and also tell her she was right to pull her agents back when Corypheus attacked, that they aren't expendable. Sounds like you didn't do that one. 

 

 

Does anyone know if this is true?

 

http://www.reddit.co...ance_at_end_of/

 

Its about the warden and lelianas fate if she becomes divine.

Yes, they even linked the Twitter posting. This has been known for some time, Leliana will stick with the Warden if she becomes Divine. Unlike Cass, Leliana has a more liberal/progressive approach to the chantry. 

[Vordish]

I am going for Leliana divine while siding with the Templars. I hope I get it. I just finished Therinfal Redoubt and disbanded the Templars. Am I to assume that getting all three at the orlesian ball to cooperate basically is a neutral/Vivienne option?

 

I ask because if doing Templars goes towards Cassandra by default, but disbanding adds to Vivenne/Leliana...then I either need to have Briala be in power at the ball, or have all three be together and make up the rest with the war table missions and actual "mages should be free" dialogue.

 

Also, I assume that Wardens being allies = Leliana?

[Sugram84]

You also have to talk to her in Skyhold and say that she was right to pull her agents back.

forgot to mention that, i guess i have done that, pull back from where, some small things i do with out thinking & then i forget fast, wit out listening after i hear her first time & load to try something else, my Elf Rogue made all 3 work together at Wicked Eyes and... & i got Lil as divine second time

[Sugram84]

Also, I assume that Wardens being allies = Leliana?

that mite be one factor that add points towards Liliana, i mean its possible that ur right, but if u exile them i think that is one factor out of meany & if u have done other things right to get her as Divine then this wont matter,  but it is something to consider depending how u play

[Sugram84]

Reunited Celene with Briala, executed Gaspard,
 

 

i wonder if u wont chose u all work together & chose u all work for me, does that mean u get the throne of Orlay? even if its indirectly, Celen as ur Puppet sitting in her throne getting orders from u

[DArkwarrior26]

I am in my next play through and I want to make Leliana Divine. But I also want to kick the grey wardens out of southern Thedas and want to make all 3 heads in Orlais puppets of the Inquisition. will those choices make her divine?

 

I already softened Leliana.

 

The reason I want Leliana to be divine is simple. Viv is a power hungry ****** after she dies the status quo will not stay the same. Cass wants to go back to the olden ways which clearly failed and will fail again in the future. Leliana wants to change things, move forward and she is more liberal. And I want to go back to the glory days of the elves, Arlathan; where magic is as natural as breathing. This aint happening if people are stuck on the old chantry ways.  

 

I also want to drink from the well of sorrows. Big follower of Mythal! after all She Saves your ass in origns and in da2 and also helps you kill coryfish by giving you a dragon. Maker or Andraste's T iTs, Mythal is the true goddess!! hahaha  

 

so kicking wardens, making 3 stooges obey, drinking from the well, freedom for the mages, do those 4 main choices make leli divine?

[Iakus]

I am in my next play through and I want to make Leliana Divine. But I also want to kick the grey wardens out of southern Thedas and want to make all 3 heads in Orlais puppets of the Inquisition. will those choices make her divine?

 

I already softened Leliana.

 

The reason I want Leliana to be divine is simple. Viv is a power hungry ****** after she dies the status quo will not stay the same. Cass wants to go back to the olden ways which clearly failed and will fail again in the future. Leliana wants to change things, move forward and she is more liberal. And I want to go back to the glory days of the elves, Arlathan; where magic is as natural as breathing. This aint happening if people are stuck on the old chantry ways.  

 

I also want to drink from the well of sorrows. Big follower of Mythal! after all She Saves your ass in origns and in da2 and also helps you kill coryfish by giving you a dragon. Maker or Andraste's T iTs, Mythal is the true goddess!! hahaha  

 

so kicking wardens, making 3 stooges obey, drinking from the well, freedom for the mages, do those 4 main choices make leli divine?

 

Supporting Briala at Halamshiral gets  you "Leliana points"  You don't have to get them all to cooperate.

[Fearsome1]

In my completed playthrough, I got Leliana as Divine [Hardened]: Rebuilds the chantry to allow mage freedom, and opening the chantry to all races and genders. Dealt with sects that rise in opposition violently. Blood is said to run down the halls of the chantry.

 

1)  Mages were given freedom.

2)  Saved Celene and executed Gaspard/exiled Briala

3)  Inquisitor drank from the Well.

4)  Wardens were exiled (Stroud survived the Fade).

5)  I talked to both Cassandra and Leliana about becoming Divine and said to both that they'd make a good choice.

6)  Didn't tell Cassandra to disband the Seekers.

7)  My female human mage character accepted that she was the Herald until after the events of the Fade

[DArkwarrior26]

First thank you both for the replies.

 

Supporting Briala at Halamshiral gets  you "Leliana points"  You don't have to get them all to cooperate.

 

Hmm I still haven't fully decided. I want to support the elves (recently started playing DAO again; city elf main toon), but I also want to pull the middle finger on all 3 of them for wasting my inquisitor's time on political crap. Does making all 3 obey be do good or bad for leliana?

 

 

In my completed playthrough, I got Leliana as Divine [Hardened]: Rebuilds the chantry to allow mage freedom, and opening the chantry to all races and genders. Dealt with sects that rise in opposition violently. Blood is said to run down the halls of the chantry.

 

1)  Mages were given freedom.

2)  Saved Celene and executed Gaspard/exiled Briala

3)  Inquisitor drank from the Well.

4)  Wardens were exiled (Stroud survived the Fade).

5)  I talked to both Cassandra and Leliana about becoming Divine and said to both that they'd make a good choice.

6)  Didn't tell Cassandra to disband the Seekers.

7)  My female human mage character accepted that she was the Herald until after the events of the Fade

Wait who the frack is stroud? I get logain (custom world state) and I am planning on keeping him alive, after all Hawke is OP and will surely kill that fear demon or whatever; + for what Flemeth (one true god Mythal) said in the DA II ritual; something about the moment and jumping or leaping. Anyways ~~

 

In my previous play through I got Cass

 

1. Hardened Leli

2. Freed mages

3. I was an elf, never believed in the maker and glowing herald thingie; rejected that notion in all conversations. To Viv I did agree with her a bit, but did not say circle must be restored.

4.exiled wardens (hawke was left in the fade; logain survived)

5.Made all 3 in the winter palace to work together. 

6.Drank from the well

7. Romanced Cass; told her she would do better for seekers. didnt support or rejected her to be divine. 

8. supported leli through dialog got no wartable missions.  

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This time playing female mage elf and romancing dreadwolf for the lore.

 

Should I recruit Viv or no? and I should probably say NO straight to the face at Cass on becoming divine. will see how it goes...and update it when I am done. This whole divine thing feels like RNG crap.  

[Taejix]

I had Cassandra as Divine.

 

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)

Allied with the Mages.

 

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)

Mixed.

 

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?

Did Cassandra's.

 

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?

Cassandra. Actively opposed Leliana in her dialogue.

 

Who did you side with on the civil war?

Celene.

 

Cassandra disband the seekers?

 Encouraged her to reform them.

 

Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?

Killed, despite my protest.

 

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?

Told her she was right.

[Jester]

Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)

Vivienne

 

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)

Mages, conscripted.

 

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)

Chantry is necessary, mages should not be free - with Vivienne. 

 

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?

Supported Cassandra.

 

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?

I supported Cassandra, told Leliana she will not become Divine and supported Cassandra in dialogue with Vivienne, never bringing up the subject of her becoming the Divine. 

 

Who did you side with on the civil war?

Celene. Gaspard executed, Briala exiled.

 

Cassandra disband the seekers?

No, she reformed them.

  

Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?

Killed. I urged her to kill her.

 

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?

That she was wrong, and I agreed with her.

 

In general:

 

1) Leliana hardened as much as possible.

2) Cassandra supported in every active way imaginable AND romanced. We even had a conversation, that her becoming the Divine doesn't mean that anything has to change between us. 

3) I never discussed with Vivienne the possibility of her becoming the Divine, I said in the discussion with her, that Cassandra is the best choice and that Leliana shouldn't become Divine.

4) I was actively anti-rebellion during the whole playthrough. I was neutral towards Chantry (it's not ideal, but it's necessary) and I repeteadly claimed that free mages would mean an endless violence and war, which benefits no one. 

 

I have no idea, why Vivienne was chosen instead of Cassandra, considering the fact that I actively supported the latter, and that my decisions were generally accepted by both.

My carefully laid plans of being a lover to the new Divine failed. I mean, at least it was Vivienne and not Leliana whom I actively opposed, but still, it seemed random.

[Vordish]

Im a little confused concerning the Orlesian Ballroom quest. I had Leliana advocate for Celene remaining in power at first, but then she turned right around and advocated for her assassination if necessary. So what gives more for her?

 

I know Gaspard puts Cassandra in the lead and I know Briala alone goes for Leliana...but what about Celene + Briala? Does that favour Leliana?

[fizzypop]

Im a little confused concerning the Orlesian Ballroom quest. I had Leliana advocate for Celene remaining in power at first, but then she turned right around and advocated for her assassination if necessary. So what gives more for her?

 

I know Gaspard puts Cassandra in the lead and I know Briala alone goes for Leliana...but what about Celene + Briala? Does that favour Leliana?

To be honest not sure it matters. I had Celene and Briala together in power and got Leliana. As long as your dialogue is generally mage freedom + anti-chantry (current that it is) then you can pretty much put whoever you want on the throne. I think PC's dialogue matters more than a lot of decisions in this game.

[Vordish]

Huh...I hope your right because Im doing a Templar playthrough and I want Leliana as Divine. I read Gaiders post about Briala and Mages being the primary factors for her. I want it to happen with the Templars though.

[Jaron Oberyn]

I don't think we know what Celen + Briala, or all 3 favor in terms of divine candidates.