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[Mir Aven]

Who became your divine? (Leliana, Hardened)

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Disbanded the Templars)

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (Chantry needs to be reformed)

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (Some did come up but I don't remember which. I didn't do any of them).

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (Didn't support anyone)

Who did you side with on the civil war? (Celene, Gaspard was executed, Briala exiled)

Cassandra disband the seekers? (Yes)
 
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Killed both)

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (I told Leliana that she was right to call back her scouts)

[Yuanrang]

Who became your divine? (Vivienne)

 

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscripted the mages)

 

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (Chantry needs to be reformed)

 

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (Cassandra and Vivienne's came up, supported Cassandra).

 

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (Supported Lelianna and Cassandra, did not support Vivienne)

 

Who did you side with on the civil war? (Celene, Gaspard was executed, Briala reconciled with Celene)

 

Cassandra disband the seekers? (No)

 

Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Spared both)

 

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (Told Leliana that the lives of her scoutes were important)

 

 

 

I am bloody annoyed, actually. I did not really know about choosing a divine, so Vivienne was the absolutely last option I would ever choose, and I ended up getting her as Divine. :/

[Soulmirror]

Hello everyone. This seemed like a cool thread so I thought I'd chime in on what happened to mine. So on mine I supported both when I could except when talking to vivienne I put Leliana could also be a better candidate in which I got disapproval from vivenne and did not unlock the support vivenne operation (I know because I saved and reloaded to see the outcomes. Going with you agree or that Vivienne making a better divine unlocks the operation.) I did the Lelianna mission where you go with her to that place, forgot the name, to get that thing that divine Justiana left for her. Afterward I talked to her a couple times and finally it got to the point where I got the clear white choice wheel, you know the one where you have to pick a major decision and cant go back afterwards, I supported Lelianna and at the end of the game.... Cassandra became the divine... WTH!? I was more in favor of Lelianna at the end. Is this a glitch or does it just not matter. I didn't get an operation to support Lelianna in the war table. Was I suppose to? man this is so messed up haha.

  There is a point in the game where no matter what you choose you will get Cassandra, it is hard coded.  Using just points, Leliana was my choice for Divine however Cassandra got the title.  I can see where the flag flips from Leliana to Cassandra however, I do not know what save game it was.  My points were Cassandra 1, vivienne -1, Leliana 16.

[Forsythia77]

I've had all three choices at Divine. My first play through I went with Cass choices and got Cass.  My second, Leliana, third, Vivienne.  All three were mage path playthroughs and I never had Cass dissolve the seekers.  Allied with the mages twice, conscripted on the Viv as Divine game.  I only ever got a war table mission on the 3rd playthrough with Viv as Divine and friends with all three on all playthroughs.  Other than the Viv war table mission Cass and Leliana were verbal support.  Civil war wise, first playthrough sided with Celine, second, Gaspard, third Gaspard with Briala as the actual power behind him.  Never told Cass to disband the seekers.  Leliana killed both her agent and Natalie in all playthroughs.  She was also told her scouts lives mattered all three playthroughs.

[songsmith2003]

Who became your divine? (Cassandra)

 

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Templars and left them independent)

 

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (Chantry needs to be reformed)

 

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (Only Cassandra came up. I awaited around forever to see someone else. Neither Vivienne nor Leliana so much as discussed being Divine until long after I went ahead and did the Support Cassandra mission. Then they got ticked off because I told them they'd make a poor Divine! Gosh. Show some interest, why don't you?)

 

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (Supported Cassandra. Ignored Vivienne's hints and bit the bullet and told Leliana she wouldn't make a good Divine. She basically tossed her head and said the equivalent of, "Shows what you know. You don't matter anyway.")

 

Who did you side with on the civil war? (Celene, Gaspard was executed, Briala reconciled with Celene)

 

Cassandra disband the seekers? (No)

 

Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Spared both)

 

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (Told Leliana she did the right thing and that people's lives are important.)

[SerendipitousElf]

  There is a point in the game where no matter what you choose you will get Cassandra, it is hard coded.  Using just points, Leliana was my choice for Divine however Cassandra got the title.  I can see where the flag flips from Leliana to Cassandra however, I do not know what save game it was.  My points were Cassandra 1, vivienne -1, Leliana 16.

I alway prefer softened Leliana as a divine, but got Casandra In my current playthrough (Cassandra quests completed, Leliana quest not completed, Grey Wardens exiled, alied with the mages)

 

Just prior to starting and during Halamshiral quest

Spoiler

Race: Elf
Gender: Female
Class: Mage
Level: 21

Approval
Blackwall: 111
Cassandra: 125
Cole: 125
Iron Bull: 97
Sera: 32
Solas: 125
Varric: 125
Vivienne: -6

Divine election
Cassandra points: -1
Leliana points: 17
Vivienne points: -10
Election state: 0
Cassandra is Divine: False
Leliana is Divine: True
Vivienne is Divine: False

Hero
Gender (0 = Male, 1 = Female): 1
Class (0 = Warrior, 1 = Rogue, 2 = Mage): 2
Race (0 = Human, 1 = Elf, 2 = Dwarf, 3 = Qunari): 1

Main quests
Mage alliance: True

 

After forcing Gaspard, Celene and Briala to work together:

Spoiler

Approval
Blackwall: 122
Cassandra: 124
Cole: 125
Iron Bull: 107
Sera: 38
Solas: 125
Varric: 125
Vivienne: -6

Divine election
Cassandra points: 0
Leliana points: 17
Vivienne points: -15
Election state: 0
Cassandra is Divine: True
Leliana is Divine: False
Vivienne is Divine: False

 

After that, no matter what I chose  in following dialogues with Cassandra, the flag never changed until the end of the game.

 

So, I went back and chose Celene rules alone, Gaspard exiled and Leliana was again the chosen Divine:

Spoiler

Race: Elf
Gender: Female
Class: Mage
Level: 21

Found 8877 true plot flags.
Found 5902 false plot flags.
Found 593 integer plot flags.
Found 6 float plot flags.

Approval
Blackwall: 123
Cassandra: 120
Cole: 106
Iron Bull: 108
Sera: 53
Solas: 125
Varric: 125
Vivienne: -6

Divine election
Cassandra points: -1
Leliana points: 18
Vivienne points: -5
Election state: 0
Cassandra is Divine: False
Leliana is Divine: True
Vivienne is Divine: False

Hero
Gender (0 = Male, 1 = Female): 1
Class (0 = Warrior, 1 = Rogue, 2 = Mage): 2
Race (0 = Human, 1 = Elf, 2 = Dwarf, 3 = Qunari): 1

Main quests
Mage alliance: True

In my other playthrough as a human female mage, alied with the mages and with the Grey Wardens, I chose Celene and Briala to rule together, Gaspard exiled and Leliana was a divine in the end.

 

Thank you for this script, it is super helpful!

I just wish I would have found it ealier, would have saved me so many hours of replay.

[Vivanor]

I wanted to have Leiliana as Divine, but I accidentally hardened her so I thought that would be catastrophic if I supported her. Before I realized I had hardened Leiliana, I thought Cassandra had good ideas but weren't radical enough (since I wanted mage rights and such). My dialogue options were pretty ambiguous up until recently, and now I think Cass sounds the most reasonable of all choices (what really won me over is when she said "Not everyone agrees on what is best", which makes me believe she will take many perspectives into consideration). Vivienne has her own interests and has no clue what its like to not be in a privileged situation, so she would be terrible!

 

I told Leiliana that I didn't support her as Divine, and after that talk I spoke with Cass, choosing "And then you'll be Divine?" option. Now off to speak with Viv... I hope I didn't make a mistake and won't be able to pick Cass!

[Poledo]

Who became your divine? (Leliana, softened)

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Mages freed)

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (Chantry needed to be done away with)

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (none came up).

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (I discouraged Cassandra but I did not encourage anyone.)

Who did you side with on the civil war? (Gaspard with Briala pulling the strings.)

Cassandra disband the seekers? (Reform the seekers, make them better.)
 
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Saved Both)

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (I told Leliana that our people were not expendable, that we are better than corypheus.)

[Sus3an]

Who became your divine? (Leliana, Hardened)

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (alliance with mages, no conscription)

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (Chantry needs reform; with Vivenne suggested mages in the chantry)

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (Vivienne's came up, I did it).

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (supported Vivienne)

Who did you side with on the civil war? (Celene, Gaspard was exiled, Briala exiled)

Cassandra disband the seekers? (No)
 
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Killed both)

 

I wanted Vivienne from the first - she was strong, principled, and I wanted a mage in the chantry to reform the Circles and regulate the Templars. Cassandra would have declared an Exaulted March the moment someone pissed her off, and Leliana was just scary, no way. Both were way too idealistic, I needed someone practical and knowledgeable.  But I got Leliana. I told her I didn't support her, and I think her ideas are awfukl, and her insistence on forcing people to see her way is bloody terrible. Playing through again-- how do I make Vivienne divine???

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (I told Leliana that she was right to call back her scouts)

[Sus3an]

It looks like you have to conscript the mages to have Vivienne as Divine. I did everything BUT that to support her, and I got Hard Leliana.

[Boost32]

I wanted Vivienne from the first - she was strong, principled, and I wanted a mage in the chantry to reform the Circles and regulate the Templars. Cassandra would have declared an Exaulted March the moment someone pissed her off, and Leliana was just scary, no way. Both were way too idealistic, I needed someone practical and knowledgeable.  But I got Leliana. I told her I didn't support her, and I think her ideas are awfukl, and her insistence on forcing people to see her way is bloody terrible. Playing through again-- how do I make Vivienne divine???

You allied with the mages, it gives Leliana 10 points and gives Vivienne -10 points, so its hard to elect her without metagaming.
If you want her, I recommend conscripiting the mages instead of allying with them

[kylejn]

I am really, really upset at things right now. I wanted to talk to all the candidates before supporting anybody but didn't know that I was permanently locking myself out of Cassandra's Support X mission by choosing the wrong dialogue option with her. I just beat the game and Vivienne ended up Divine, which I hated. Now I have to redo 17 hours of gameplay, and I have to do it perfectly with how I did it before, because the *only* thing I want to change is making Cassandra Divine like she's supposed to be. I checked the points using the tool posted elsewhere and the +10 from the support mission would have put Cassandra over Vivienne. I almost want to just uninstall the game because of how upset I am with all of this. /sigh

[Draco856]

You can use the Save Editor to change who becomes Divine, it can also be used to see how the points are calculated, you can likely make a save before every decison in conversation and see how your choices affect who becomes Divine, could be a useful research tool, I don't know all the specifics that it entails, but I did notice it has ways to change the "points" you have that determines who is divine, and I think it also tells you who will become divine at the end. Mine is currently set to Vivenne. The save editor is located here:

 

http://sourceforge.n...cellaneous src/

 

 

Select "SavefileTools.rar"

[Gervaise]

I had one playthrough where I forgot to vote for Cassandra as Divine and ended up with Vivienne.   So I reloaded, voted for Cassandra and got her.    So apparently it all hinged on my vote.

I had supported restoring the Circles but also reform.  

I was on good terms with both Vivienne and Cassandra

Lelianna was not softened, although I had tried to talk her out of killing the sister at the end.

I conscripted the mages.

I put Briala on the throne of Orlais.

I banished the Wardens.

I did not drink from the well.

I encouraged Cassandra to restore the Seekers.

I was generally agnostic about being the Herald.

I was a Dalish elf hunter who romanced Dorian.

[Jeffry]

Who became your divine? (Cassandra, which was my goal)

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Templars, conscripted and in the end they stayed under Cullen's command under Inquisition)

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (I was a devouted Andrastian from the start, wanted a slight reform like Cassandra proposed, but when talking to Leliana and Vivienne I tried to please them both. But in the end I told Leliana I don't want her as the Divine because her views are not mine)

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (Cassandra's came up and I did it almost immediately)

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (I supported Cassandra as the new Divine in every possible dialogue since it became possible, Vivienne was actualy on board with it, but Leliana wanted to be the Divine herself and I said to her I don't want her to become one)

Who did you side with on the civil war? (All 3 blackmailed into sumbission via the "renegade" option that all 3 now work for me)

Cassandra disband the seekers? (Yes, I told her she should not rebuild them)
 
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Saved both and she became more compassionate)

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (She was told to keep them safe)

[tuulost]

I supported Leliana, although I never had a Support Leliana war table mission pop up.

And then Vivienne became Divine. I was not happy about that, not at all.

 

I chose Templars, and to keep them a separate group.

I chose to save Celene, and to execute Gaspard.

Leliana killed the traitor.

I don't remember what I told her about her lost spies.

I told her not to kill the sister, although she did anyway.

I romanced Josephine.

I told Vivienne that I supported Leliana.

I let the Grey Wardens stay.

As far as I can tell, I generally voiced my opinion about abolishing the circles, although at The Winter Palace, I basically just told people what they wanted to hear to get approval.

[dewayne31]

ok so i havent able to play in three months due the hotfix for patch 2. but i was curious now that i'm back to playing. i heard a feminq could become divine. i know was path takiing a evil divine

[Boost32]

ok so i havent able to play in three months due the hotfix for patch 2. but i was curious now that i'm back to playing. i heard a feminq could become divine. i know was path takiing a evil divine

thats not true, only Cassandra, Vivienne and Leliana can become Divine.

[Heidirs]

people might already know this, but the wiki has a post on how certain choices effect who is divine: http://dragonage.wik...Divine_election

 

 

Who became your divine? (Leliana, softened)
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (mages, allied)
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (not sure...)
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (don't remember, if I did, it was Leliana)
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (I supported Leliana, told Cassandra to reform the Seekers, and told Vivienne I supported Leliana)
Who did you side with on the civil war? (Briala)
Cassandra disband the seekers? (no)
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (spared)
Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (She was told to keep them safe)

 

 

 

My Results according to the wiki:

In Hushed Whispers

• "You're our allies." ("We would be honored to have you fight as allies at the Inquisition's side.") – Offer the rebel mages a full alliance. Leliana +10, Cassandra -5, Vivienne -10

Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts

Celene dead:

• Gaspard and Briala: Leliana +5, Cassandra -5, Vivienne -10

Here Lies the Abyss

• "Help the Inquisition." ("You stay and do whatever you can to help.") – The Grey Wardens help the Inquisition. They may be vulnerable to corruption. Leliana +5, Cassandra -5, Vivienne -1

Conversations Inquisitor speech

• "I'll set an example as a mage." ("With fear running rampant, they need to see a mage standing for what is right.") Leliana +1, Vivienne +5

Cassandra Do you want to be Divine?

• "Perhaps there's another way." ("There are other ways you can change things.") Cassandra -1

Leliana After Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts

• "The Chantry preached hate." ("It was the Chantry that taught people hate and fear.") Leliana +1

After What Pride Had Wrought

• "I'd support you." ("I think you would make a good Divine.") – Support Leliana as the new Divine. Leliana +1

Vivienne After Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts

• "What about Leliana?" ("Leliana might be a better choice than Cassandra, don't you think?") Leliana +1

[brisingr90]

I almost completed the game, but I never had War Table mission to support any of those 3 to become Divine, because I always chose option "I dont wanna talk about it yet". So, HOW will I know who will become Divine in my game?

 

Who became your divine? (Not yet)
Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Mages Conscripted)
When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (Circle of Magi must rebuild and chantry more open to mages)
Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (Nope)
Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (Did not support any of them, because I told them to focus on Cory first)
Who did you side with on the civil war? (Celene. Gaspard and Briala is joined together with Celene)
Cassandra disband the seekers? (No)
Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Killed)
Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (Not remember but maybe she was wrong)

[Boost32]

I almost completed the game, but I never had War Table mission to support any of those 3 to become Divine, because I always chose option "I dont wanna talk about it yet". So, HOW will I know who will become Divine in my game?
 
Who became your divine? (Not yet)[/size]Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Mages Conscripted)[/size]When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (Circle of Magi must rebuild and chantry more open to mages)[/size]Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all? (Nope)[/size]Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them? (Did not support any of them, because I told them to focus on Cory first)[/size]Who did you side with on the civil war? (Celene. Gaspard and Briala is joined together with Celene)[/size]Cassandra disband the seekers? (No)[/size]Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry? (Killed)[/size]Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong? (Not remember but maybe she was wrong)[/size]

Its going to be either Cassandra or Vivienne.
Did you exiled the wardens? What you told about the Inquisition when you where named Inquisitor (faith, order, exemple for mages)?

[brisingr90]

Its going to be either Cassandra or Vivienne.
Did you exiled the wardens? What you told about the Inquisition when you where named Inquisitor (faith, order, exemple for mages)?

No I dont exiled them. I told them "Cory must be stopped". For information, I romance Cassandra.

[Draco856]

Open your save file in the tool from this post: http://forum.bioware...314/?p=18750551

 

It'll tell you who is most likely to become divine in your game as well as being able to change it if you want. You are looking for the BOOL value that says who is divine, to change it just double click the correct one and it should change from FALSE to TRUE, make sure you also change the one you don't want divine to FALSE or else you might break things.

[Addicted_Dragon]

My 1st playthrough

Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)

Leiliana/ Hardened

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)

Mages/Allies

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)

Mages need to be free

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?

No. Had a convo with Viv and even though she said she supported Cass the war table operation was for her to become divine even though i told her i agreed that Cass should be divine. ( Don't know what happened there)

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?

Supported Cass and told Leliana that i did not support her

Who did you side with on the civil war?

Celene. Killed Gaspard. Briala lives

Cassandra disband the seekers?

No. Rebuild

  Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?

Killed both.

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?

Told her she was right

 

2nd Playthrough

 

Who became your divine? (Softened/Hardened if applicable)

Vivienne.

Who did you side with mages/templars and under what condition. (Conscription, free)

Templars. Allies

When speaking to companions regarding chantry, how did you respond? (i.e. Dorian, Vivienne) (i.e. chantry is fine, mages need to be free, chantry reformed)

I agreed with everyone.

Did you do any of the war table operations to support a divine candidate? Did any come up at all?

None came up and there was no conversation with Vivienne this time about it.

Did you support a divine candidate through dialogue with them?

Supported Cass and Leliana. Mostly supported Leliana cause i felt bad in the first playthrough for telling her no.

Who did you side with on the civil war?

Celene. Gaspard killed and i am not sure what happened to Briala.

Cassandra disband the seekers?

 No.

Leliana Kill/Spared Traitor at Haven/Sister at Chantry?

Killed both.

Leliana told she was right to keep her scouts safe, or that she was wrong?

Right.

 

I have been trying to get Cassandra as divine and i think i really need to side with Gaspard for that to happen or is there more to it?

[NickyBarb]

Cass as divine:

Leliana hardened
Romanced Solas
Inquisitor believes in elven gods
Rebuild Seekers/Keep Circles/F the Chantry
Templars allied
Wardens exiled
Morrigan drank from Well
Supported Cass and Viv, told Leliana no.

Vivi as divine:

Leliana softened
Romanced Blackwall
Believes in elven gods
Same dialogue as above
Mages Conscripted
Wardens Allied
Drank from well
Supported all 3