What I'm really worried about is that if my Solasmancer Lavellan drinks from the well any future content with Solas will be all f*cked up because of it. I don't want her "enslavement" to Mythal preventing her and Solas having at least a sort of happy resolution romantically.
Thoughts?
What I'm really worried about is that if my Solasmancer Lavellan drinks from the well any future content with Solas will be all f*cked up because of it. I don't want her "enslavement" to Mythal preventing her and Solas having at least a sort of happy resolution romantically.
Thoughts?
My take on this is that Bioware probably won't even take this into count.
Seriously, we're all overthinking this guys. Basically if the Inquisitor drinks from the Well, it's all gonna boil down to Solas trying to do something world-shattering, while the Inquisition forces are absent because the Inquisitor is "not feeling well" as said by *companion from DAI*. That's it.
In fact, it may just be a side quest involving a previous member of the Inquisiton like Scout Harding (because everybody loves her) where she gives a quest saying the Inquisitor is acting all weird. Long story short, you either break the curse or kill the Inquisitor, but in the end, the Inquisition is a mess because they don't have a leader and we'll never have to hear from them for the rest of Dragon Age 4, conveniently letting the main bad guy win a few rounds because a powerful organization isn't there to stop him/her
I personally let the Inquisitor drink from the well because I don't care if the Inquisitor and the entire Inquisition become Mythal's/Solas' slaves. My new protagonist then would be more than happy to kill every last one of them starting with Scout Harding. I care more about Morrigan's well-being and her son.
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What I'm really worried about is that if my Solasmancer Lavellan drinks from the well any future content with Solas will be all f*cked up because of it. I don't want her "enslavement" to Mythal preventing her and Solas having at least a sort of happy resolution romantically.
Thoughts?
I think it might just be a case of "Static Role, Exchangeable Character."
That is, at certain points in the story there will be a character to fill that role no matter what, but depending on the player's past choices (in previous games) it could be one character or another.
For example, in DAI Varric brings Hawke no matter what, and Hawke has a "Grey Warden Contact" to give the Inquisitor information on the Grey Warden's activities no matter what (Static Role). However, who that Grey Warden Contact is depends on which Grey Warden companion fought beside the Hero of Ferelden during the Blight and/or whether that companion survived (Exchangeable Character). DAI Hawke's "Grey Warden Contact" could be Alistair, Loghain, or Stroud (if one of the other died). The story then plays out normally.
Likewise, Morrigan shows up in DAI to give insight into ancient elven lore (even for a Dalish... grrr!) no matter what, and I think eventually encounters Flemeth no matter what (Static Role), but whether or not she has a son and what her son is like depends on the Warden's decision in DAO (Exchangeable Cahracter). If the Warden chose the Old God Ritual, Kieran has the soul of an Old God. If the Warden was male and romanced Morrigan but didn't accept the ritual, then Kieran is a normal little boy. Depending on who the Warden chose to do the ritual (and gender) Kieran could be the Warden's son, Alistair's son, or Loghain's son. There's different dialogue acknowledging him and his personality, of course; Morrigan can be much nicer with him around, and her encounter with Flemeth alters depending on whether she has Kieran and/or the Old God Soul, but ultimately the story plays out similarly.
Likewise, whoever drank from the Well uses its power to summon a dragon to fight Corypheus' dragon (Static Role), but who it is and how they do it depends on who did the drinking (Exchangeable Character). If Morrigan drank from the Well, she's forced to transform into a dragon and fight Corypheus' pet head-on. If the Inquisitor drank, then s/he goes to visit one of Mythal's temples, summons a dragon, defeats it in combat, then uses the Well's power to enthrall it to her.
Likewise, if the Drinker of the Well comes back in a future game, the role will be static and the character exchangeable. It won't be too different depending on whether it's the Inquisitor or Morrigan; just different dialogue and maybe some conversation paths.
My guess is that either Mythal's "spark of godhood" that she hoped to pass onto Morrigan and which she safeguarded from Solas will thrive, she'll come back and do something perilous, then will call upon the drinker of the Well as her servant in the fight. Or, Solas really did absorb part of Mythal's godhood when he absorbed her power at the end and will also be able to control the Drinker of the Well. My guess is that he'll try to do something earth-shattering, the new protagonist will have to try to stop him (whether by trying to talk him down, kill him, or defeat him in battle and then try to talk him down), then he might feel forced to summon the drinker of the Well for help (though I think that'll be an indication that he's truly desperate since he doesn't believe in infringing on free will), and try to get the Drinker to fight the new protagonist; whether the thrall is the Inquisitor or Morrigan just depends on who did it. The player will defeat them (hopefully not kill them), then probably stop Solas' plan, but hopefully not have to kill him. (Creators willing, we'll be able to talk him down the way the Inquisitor could talk Abelas down.)
I hope we aren't forced to kill the Well-drinker out of hand (since I don't want to kill Morrigan or the Inquisitor), nor be forced to kill Solas if he gains some control over the Well-drinker (oh Creators, please let us be able to talk him down like we could Abelas!), but no matter what, if the Well-drinking Inquisitor is a female Lavellan who romanced Solas and Solas somehow holds the leash, I hope the devs remember and keep the exchange very well-written and emotionally compelling; just like how they kept Morrigan's reunion with Flemeth in DAI well-written and emotionally compelling whether Morrigan had a son, a son with the soul of an Old God, or no son at all.
Even if it ends tragically though, I probably won't change my worldstate. Probably. Not unless it's needlessly, sadistically heart-wrenching.
I think it might just be a case of "Static Role, Exchangeable Character."
That is, at certain points in the story there will be a character to fill that role no matter what, but depending on the player's past choices (in previous games) it could be one character or another.
For example, in DAI Varric brings Hawke no matter what, and Hawke has a "Grey Warden Contact" to give the Inquisitor information on the Grey Warden's activities no matter what (Static Role). However, who that Grey Warden Contact is depends on which Grey Warden companion fought beside the Hero of Ferelden during the Blight and/or whether that companion survived (Exchangeable Character). DAI Hawke's "Grey Warden Contact" could be Alistair, Loghain, or Stroud (if one of the other died). The story then plays out normally.
Likewise, Morrigan shows up in DAI to give insight into ancient elven lore (even for a Dalish... grrr!) no matter what, and I think eventually encounters Flemeth no matter what (Static Role), but whether or not she has a son and what her son is like depends on the Warden's decision in DAO (Exchangeable Cahracter). If the Warden chose the Old God Ritual, Kieran has the soul of an Old God. If the Warden was male and romanced Morrigan but didn't accept the ritual, then Kieran is a normal little boy. Depending on who the Warden chose to do the ritual (and gender) Kieran could be the Warden's son, Alistair's son, or Loghain's son. There's different dialogue acknowledging him and his personality, of course; Morrigan can be much nicer with him around, and her encounter with Flemeth alters depending on whether she has Kieran and/or the Old God Soul, but ultimately the story plays out similarly.
Likewise, whoever drank from the Well uses its power to summon a dragon to fight Corypheus' dragon (Static Role), but who it is and how they do it depends on who did the drinking (Exchangeable Character). If Morrigan drank from the Well, she's forced to transform into a dragon and fight Corypheus' pet head-on. If the Inquisitor drank, then s/he goes to visit one of Mythal's temples, summons a dragon, defeats it in combat, then uses the Well's power to enthrall it to her.
Likewise, if the Drinker of the Well comes back in a future game, the role will be static and the character exchangeable. It won't be too different depending on whether it's the Inquisitor or Morrigan; just different dialogue and maybe some conversation paths.
My guess is that either Mythal's "spark of godhood" that she hoped to pass onto Morrigan and which she safeguarded from Solas will thrive, she'll come back and do something perilous, then will call upon the drinker of the Well as her servant in the fight. Or, Solas really did absorb part of Mythal's godhood when he absorbed her power at the end and will also be able to control the Drinker of the Well. My guess is that he'll try to do something earth-shattering, the new protagonist will have to try to stop him (whether by trying to talk him down, kill him, or defeat him in battle and then try to talk him down), then he might feel forced to summon the drinker of the Well for help (though I think that'll be an indication that he's truly desperate since he doesn't believe in infringing on free will), and try to get the Drinker to fight the new protagonist; whether the thrall is the Inquisitor or Morrigan just depends on who did it. The player will defeat them (hopefully not kill them), then probably stop Solas' plan, but hopefully not have to kill him. (Creators willing, we'll be able to talk him down the way the Inquisitor could talk Abelas down.)
I hope we aren't forced to kill the Well-drinker out of hand (since I don't want to kill Morrigan or the Inquisitor), nor be forced to kill Solas if he gains some control over the Well-drinker (oh Creators, please let us be able to talk him down like we could Abelas!), but no matter what, if the Well-drinking Inquisitor is a female Lavellan who romanced Solas and Solas somehow holds the leash, I hope the devs remember and keep the exchange very well-written and emotionally compelling; just like how they kept Morrigan's reunion with Flemeth in DAI well-written and emotionally compelling whether Morrigan had a son, a son with the soul of an Old God, or no son at all.
Even if it ends tragically though, I probably won't change my worldstate. Probably. Not unless it's needlessly, sadistically heart-wrenching.
I'm almost convinced that no matter which choices are made the "static" ending involving Solas will be extremely tragic. If you take into account Gaider's love for tragedy (he most likely has a large amount of sway with the writers) and Weeke's obvious ability to feel ok with breaking all our hearts (shown by how he wrote Solas' romance) I don't think there's really any hope for us Solasmancers. Weekes will most likely use our romance with Solas against us to create dramatic effect and I think if Lavellan drank from the well there might be some extra dialogue (or main plot points similar to what you suggested) that will make the pain all the more excruciating.
In retrospect, if there is barely any chance for a happy ending anyways might as well go with the most dramatic choices for the most bang out of your buck (oh god Solas i'm so sorry aaagghh).
It's decided. I'm going to drink from the well. I seriously hope this isn't a huge mistake x-x
I've brought this up previously in another thread, and it's only come to my mind recently. But it appears that Flemeth is killed by Solas, and he absorbs...something. Is it the old god soul? Perhaps. Or, is it the spirit of Mythal itself? Does Solas disprove because he doesn't want the Inquisitor as his puppet, whether out of respect, love or friendship of him/her? Because he really dislikes it if you drink from the well. The fact that, given his dismissal of Morrigan's understanding of elven history, he greatly approves her drinking from it, leads me to believe he'd rather have someone he dislikes rather than someone as important as the Inquisitor.
And since he seems to kill Flemeth, he should now be Mythal...right? Grrr. We need some closure on this stuff. Before my brain spills out of my ears.
I've brought this up previously in another thread, and it's only come to my mind recently. But it appears that Flemeth is killed by Solas, and he absorbs...something. Is it the old god soul? Perhaps. Or, is it the spirit of Mythal itself?
The old god it was swept under the carpet(it does not even exist into the default worldstate),the scene happen even if the DR was never performed,is Mythal power,while Flemeth sent mythal soul beyond the mirror
I've brought this up previously in another thread, and it's only come to my mind recently. But it appears that Flemeth is killed by Solas, and he absorbs...something. Is it the old god soul? Perhaps. Or, is it the spirit of Mythal itself? Does Solas disprove because he doesn't want the Inquisitor as his puppet, whether out of respect, love or friendship of him/her? Because he really dislikes it if you drink from the well. The fact that, given his dismissal of Morrigan's understanding of elven history, he greatly approves her drinking from it, leads me to believe he'd rather have someone he dislikes rather than someone as important as the Inquisitor.
And since he seems to kill Flemeth, he should now be Mythal...right? Grrr. We need some closure on this stuff. Before my brain spills out of my ears.
What I think happens is Solas kills Flemeth and absorb her power , but her soul was supposed to be destroyed in the process.
Because if he only took her soul in , she wouldn't be dead , so the whole scene with the whole "pay the price , I'm sorry 
" wouldn't make much sense.
No idea what happens to the Old God Soul , the scene is exactly the same with or without a OGB in the story.
The soul could have been destroyed by Solas.
Flemythal could have hidden it before going to see him...
She may have send a piece of it with her own soul through the Eluvian.
Impossible to know.
About the Well , basically you choose to give up your freewill for power and knowledge.
Once you drink you are Mythal's puppet .
Solas is a big fan of free will , so yeah he's happier if Morrigan drinks from it.
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I'm almost convinced that no matter which choices are made the "static" ending involving Solas will be extremely tragic. If you take into account Gaider's love for tragedy (he most likely has a large amount of sway with the writers) and Weeke's obvious ability to feel ok with breaking all our hearts (shown by how he wrote Solas' romance) I don't think there's really any hope for us Solasmancers. Weekes will most likely use our romance with Solas against us to create dramatic effect and I think if Lavellan drank from the well there might be some extra dialogue (or main plot points similar to what you suggested) that will make the pain all the more excruciating.
In retrospect, if there is barely any chance for a happy ending anyways might as well go with the most dramatic choices for the most bang out of your buck (oh god Solas i'm so sorry aaagghh).
It's decided. I'm going to drink from the well. I seriously hope this isn't a huge mistake x-x
I think you might be right, but I'm still holding onto hope.
I think Gaider has left the DA franchise to work on another IP, and Patrick Weekes (for how much he loves tragedy) has said that Solas' story is "sad," but I hope it's not "tragic." If it's a bittersweet ending (like they can remain together, but they both have to go into uthenera), I can still live with it, as long as we don't have to watch him die in our arms, or we have to die in his arms, or he's made Tranquil or something. (That would just be so sad! )
However, as you said, if they want to give Solas a tragic ending anyway, not drinking from the Well probably won't stop it and drinking from the Well won't make it too much worse, so might as well get the most dramatic bang for your buck. 
(Plus, I'm personally glad that I didn't read ahead and learn that Solas leaves in DAI, because then I wouldn't have romanced him and wouldn't have experienced all the good things that come with his romance, so I don't want to miss out on anything good that might come from drinking from the Well just because I'm afraid it might end more sadly.)
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