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[Colonelkillabee]

Only if you're a fanboy who refuses to see logic.  PhoenixKing makes the best point here.  The Inquisition was not established in the same level as the Wardens have been to us for years.  The majority of this topic has been excuses to either point to why the Wardens aren't nearly as great as we've been explicitly shown the entire time, or why the Inquisition is, in fact, so great with extremely little backing to it.  I think I'm done here.  This argument is going in circles and, frankly, I've little respect for the other side of this argument.

I think you need to pull out a dictionary and look up the word devised.

 

I didn't say I disagreed. And in fact, if you go back and read the thread, you'd see we actually agree. That's what's really funny here.

 

I said that your argument for your point sucked. You can't blame someone for ignoring your point when you make such a silly argument.

[Master Warder Z_]

You know whats funny?

People think the Wardens of Adamant did poor against the Inquisition.

Imagine them against Orlesian armies numbering in the tens of thousands.

[jsachun]

As far as I recall, Orlesian Grey Wardens didn't even show up to the Blight. There is nothing bigger than the Blight, but remember Wardens are only a handful of soldiers who rely on other armies from Thedas to hold against the Blight.

 

Inquisition would've out numbered them by Far. + we are only talking about one branch of Warden here, so it would've been like a million versus 300.

 

Paints a bad picture on the face of inquisitor.  

[Colonelkillabee]

Numbers don't matter when what people are talking about is the one on one fights in the cutscenes.

[jsachun]

Lolz, inquisition soldier are so bad, they can't even hold themselves up against a bunch of wolves or bandits.

[Colonelkillabee]

And then they come in and wipe the floor and their asses with the Orlesian Wardens.

 

Wait, I get it now. ORLESIAN Wardens. The French strike again.

[Master Warder Z_]

The French are tough...

[Colonelkillabee]

We know, but the whole world's in on the joke, lol. It's pretty funny with how much blood was shed in France that they get made fun of, but they do.

 

I blame their funny ass accents. And clothes.

 

However, the Orlesians... I thought Chevalier were supposed to be tough. These bitches are locked up hiding from demons n' ****. Puuuuuussies.

[SgtSteel91]

You know whats funny?

People think the Wardens of Adamant did poor against the Inquisition.

Imagine them against Orlesian armies numbering in the tens of thousands.

 

I keep saying, you can get the assistance of the Orlesian military if you play your cards right. Orlais + Inquisition > Wardens

[Master Warder Z_]

However, the Orlesians... I thought Chevalier were supposed to be tough. These bitchesI are locked up hiding from demons n' ****. Puuuuuussies.

You actually only meet one besides the trainer and Gaspard.

He's in the field commanding men.

[Colonelkillabee]

You actually only meet one besides the trainer and Gaspard.

He's in the field commanding men.

So the rest of those guys dressed like him were just your typical over the top Orlesian pusses?

[HTTP 404]

I was expecting heavy losses in the story for the inquisition forces against a smaller group of wardens.  It was a good story but that bit was disappointing to me.

[Willowhugger]

We know, but the whole world's in on the joke, lol. It's pretty funny with how much blood was shed in France that they get made fun of, but they do.

 

I think the whole making fun of France thing is overcompensating for the fact they spent the past thousand years making the rest of Europe's life a living hell.

If they weren't conquering something, they were funding someone conquering something.

Including the USA!

[Han Shot First]

You actually only meet one besides the trainer and Gaspard.

He's in the field commanding men.

 

Stroud is a Chevalier as well. 

 

That was his background before being handed the archdemon slurpie.

[Br3admax]

I was expecting heavy losses in the story for the inquisition forces against a smaller group of wardens.  It was a good story but that bit was disappointing to me.

Why would you be expecting that, when most of the Wardens don't even want to go along with it, in a rundown fortress, with half of their command performing some stupid ritual, and two of player characters present? 

[PrinceLionheart]

I do wonder though what gave this idea that Wardens are amazing fighters. I remember how alot of people thought it was weird that the inquisition could crush them so easily during the first trailer we saw.

 

Most of the Grey Wardens are criminals, they probably rarely wielded a sword before. Its not like the entire order is has young nobles who had sword training in their youth.

 

It's the whole "But my Warden was the most ultimate of ultimate badasses" thing.

[Wulfram]

That they lost is fine.  But the game could have done a lot more to reflect their abilities.

[Colonelkillabee]

It's the whole "But my Warden was the most ultimate of ultimate badasses" thing.

No, even Sten echoes this thought when asking you "Are you sure you're a Grey Warden?"

[Willowhugger]

Counterpoint, guys, they're not the Night's Watch.

Most Grey Wardens are criminals or Anderfel's fanatics.

 

However, most Grey Wardens are CONSCRIPTS from criminals who show themselves to be utter badasses.

Duncan isn't checking the gallows, he's looking for the most badass people he can find in Fereldan.

Two of which are facing the Gallows, legally.

[Master Warder Z_]

So the rest of those guys dressed like him were just your typical over the top Orlesian pusses?

You mean in traditional orlesian military armor?

I guess?

Even their foot soldiers are donned in that.

[The Baconer]

You know whats funny?

People think the Wardens of Adamant did poor against the Inquisition.

Imagine them against Orlesian armies numbering in the tens of thousands.

 

Probably the same as the Inquisition. The "tens of thousands" part would work to balance out the "Orlesian" part.

[Br3admax]

That they lost is fine.  But the game could have done a lot more to reflect their abilities.

Again, it was a minority of wardens who did not even completely go along with said plan, in a crumbling ruin. All the while, they were butchering each other, followed by fighting our army as well as themselves. What did you expect? 

[Wulfram]

Again, it was a minority of wardens who did not even completely go along with said plan, in a crumbling ruin. All the while, they were butchering each other, followed by fighting our army as well as themselves. What did you expect? 

 

That they be represented in a way that distinguished them from the average lot of random bandits.  That the cut scenes etc. should seem like they were being over-run by numbers, rather than seeming like less capable combatants than the random Inquisition soldiers they were up against.

 

Basically that they have something that illustrated their elite status.

[Br3admax]

Nah, you see that guy. It's the same Inquisition soldier in almost every cutscene. Dude got blasted by Cory and then afterwards went toe-to-toe with a Nightmare. Tanner is the closest thing we have to the Red-Shirt-That-Never-Dies trope. 

[Mr.House]

That they be represented in a way that distinguished them from the average lot of random bandits.  That the cut scenes etc. should seem like they were being over-run by numbers, rather than seeming like less capable combatants than the random Inquisition soldiers they were up against.

 

Basically that they have something that illustrated their elite status.

When you have in-fighting, fear, voices in your head telling you you're going to die and then having to fight an army of soldiers who are in a nutshell zealots fighting for the glory of their Hereld at fantastic moral as they believe they are fighting for justice and then lets add our siege equipment. It's not surprising at all.