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[Marine0351WPNS]

So far I like it. Story isn't the best but it's good enough for me. It doesn't bother me how quick I could beat the main plot alone cause I have no desire to skip everything else, it's part of the reason I like the game so far. Besides, I believe the ME games and Fallout 3 were all beatable in less than 20 hours with just the main plot.

 

I haven't noticed too many places I couldn't go due to invisible barriers or anything. 

 

I haven't progressed far enough into a romance for that yet.

I was able to beat ME1 in 9 hours, could prolly push through ME2 in close to the same amount of time. I only beat ME3 once, so idk about a speed run of that.

[Grayvisions]

I agree with all the OP's points, but I didn't hate the game. I rather enjoyed it overall, though I wasn't quite as quick to start a second playthrough as I thought I'd be. Just the same, I enjoyed the experience enough and recommended it to others. Game's got issues though, no denying, and far more than just the typical, "Nothing is perfect!" schpeel. Bware gets a solid A+ for effort on DAI but the product is only about a B-, imo; worth the money, not necessarily worth the wait.

[Element Zero]

The OP makes some valid points. I like the game. My first play-through lasted 101 hours, and my PC ended just short of Level 25. I started a second play-through (after 7 scrapped Inquisitors that never made it past Haven), and am about to experience the transition to Skyhold. I nearly quit, out of boredom, a few hours into the Hinterlands. I stuck it out, though, and started getting into my new character more. I'm confident I'll at least complete his journey.

I'm playing on PS4, and this game is the buggiest game I've ever played. I routinely have to close out the application and relaunch the game. Sound disappears and then lags every time I fast-travel. Conversations freeze. Areas load devoid animal life, and twice devoid of people and a few topographical features. The game regularly crashes inexplicably. Crafting gets buggy regularly. Sometimes my character decides s/he is in combat and can't be convinced otherwise, locking out non-combat functionality. I could go on, but you get the point. It hasn't stopped me from enjoying the game, but it has certainly diminished my enjoyment.

The various regions were fun, for a time, but I could definitely be better incentivized to spend my time in them. I'm not sure if OCD-like behavior will compel me to fully complete them in future play-throughs. I'm thinking not.

The gameplay and graphics are still mediocre, as they've been in previous DA games. I'm not sure why they can't be better. Do we really have to choose between epic story or epic gameplay and visuals? Why can't we have both? Navigating the environments in this game has the feel of old school PC games. It's pretty bad. Combat is what it is. Far better than DAO, for me, but still pretty stale.

The game is fun, but I don't find myself loving it. I like it more than DA2, due to its variety, but less than DAO, despite its technical superiority. I just really enjoyed the story of DAO, I guess. The ending of ME3 was crushing, simply because I love that series so very much. I still do, and made peace with the travesty in order to keep loving it. I bring that up as a comparison. I don't find myself loving DA the same way. I love the world. I've read and enjoyed all of the novels. (The Calling is an incredible book, in my opinion, and I was surprised by how much I enjoyed Last Flight. It was very good.) Maybe the fact that these games are mostly stand-alone stories prevents the traction I found with Mass Effect. I'm not sure.

Oh, well. It's late and I'm rambling a bit.

TLDR-- I like this game, and the series as a whole, but I'm not sure they have yet established any sort of identity for this series. I wish they'd perfect their vision, because they have created a very engaging setting.

[Arl Raylen]

I was able to beat ME1 in 9 hours, could prolly push through ME2 in close to the same amount of time. I only beat ME3 once, so idk about a speed run of that.

 

Hmm maybe if you're trying. ME2 had a ton of companions and almost all of them had a recruit and loyalty mission, and each was an hour to three depending on how you went about them. Rushing you might be able to do it below 20 but a full clear of the suicide mission probably not.

 

I believe it for ME1, that game was short. ME3 was slightly longer.

[Nemis-Roidsavelt]

OP I agree with a lot of your points. Especailly in regard to how long the story is. The ending. The lack of choice. Your options don't matter. Its still pretty good though. 9/10. The should of worked on it for a lot longer in my opinion. A ton of stuff got cut which really ticks me off. Means the game could of been way longer but the screwed up and didn't use resources properly. Guys u should of just pushed it back.......... but no........... This is no Kotor.

[Wisegal]

I am absolutely loving this game, but I suppose it depends on what you enjoy in a game. I spent 30 minutes hanging out in Haven's tavern just lietening to the music, and I enjoy exploring every nook and cranny of the maps.

I thought the romance story with Josephine was adorable, and I acutally liked that it bucked the tradition of having the love interest jump into bed with someone they barely know. I also loved the fact that Bioware has treated LGBT gamers equally, by providing love interests who are not all either straight or bi. They even had a transgender character, and made it perfectly clear that being gay or trans isn't somehow deviant. It makes Thedas a world I'd like to live in.

The game doesn't force you to complete evey fetch quest, so if you don't like them don't do them. There's no 100% achievement in DA:I like we had in DAO, and there's probably more than twice the amount of power available than you actually need. I just started "what pride had wrought", and I had almost 200 power. I've only finished hinterlands, storm coast, and exalted plains, and I've played a bit in western approach and emprise du lion. There's like 3 maps I haven't even been to yet.

I'm expecting to spend at least 200 hours in the game to see everything, and that amount of content is one hell of an accomplishment for a studio. That being said, I think that they could have improved the animations and graphics if they had split the game into two discs, because I suspect that the animations may have been curbed to allow for one disc on consoles. I admit I hate seeing my female elf walk like a woman during gameplay and then stomp around like a bulldog during cutscenes, but I suppose they didn't have enough room on the disc to include female animations. Given the amount of content compared to ME3, which was two discs, I'm actually shocked they crammed all of DAI onto one. That's probably my biggest technical criticism.

I will say this though- if you don't leave the hinterlands as soon as you can you'll end up frustrated. That map was a bit too much grinding for my taste. There are bugs in the game, but I'm sure they'll be patched and I would prefer a few annoyances to having the release date pushed back again. The dialogue bug will actually resolve itself if you let it sit. It may take a minute or two, but if you resist the urge to skip it will resume on its own.

Tl;dr - Im loving the game, but YMMV.

[TammieAZ]

What I hate is ungrateful, selfish, so-in-sos posting hate threads...

 

 

[arkngt]

Man, this must be the most negative forums I've ever checked out.

[Amirit]

 (contrasted against an older RPG like the Witcher 2, where you could miss HALF the game because of your choices - now that's roleplaying.  Witcher 3 is supposed to have over 30 different endings...)

 

 

Giving yourself up so easily! Or was it the whole point? To say "TW is a better game" AGAIN? I wonder how many accounts you keep here to repeat that very sentence in different topics - different names with less then a hundred posts mostly and all about how wonderful TW2 (1 or 3) is, especially with it's sex scenes!

[Vikarus]

Those average scores only show up after the game was released, I'm talking about those reviews before the released.

Slander clauses. Early reviews aren't allowed to be honest. Generally safer to wait until any game is out to buy it, as companies tend to only base their games' success on how well pre-orders sell. Less pre-orders = companies don't profit as much = companies might actually listen to their fans for once.

[De1ta G]

No, I've very much enjoyed this game. 115 hours on my playthrough and I'm now 10 hours into my second.

However, I agree with some of your points. Such as the sidequests and the open world regions. I felt the entire open world part of game took away from the main story and the characters. I did love exploring the regions but playing the main story missions was by the far the most fulfilling parts of the game. I have only seen one romance and I thought it was very well written. I have it for Xbox one and the controls are fine so I can't relate to your issue with the controls on the PC.

 

Like with any game, there are some things I didn't like but overall this game definitely didn't disappoint and I had very high expectations going in.

[lastpatriot]

Um, I really like the game though I do wish there was a bit more meat to the main quest.  The voice acting is outstanding, the music is excellent, and there were a few times where the game actually touched me.  All in all, I've really enjoyed it.

 

As for the controls on PC, I'm not sure what folks are talking about as they are almost exactly what I've been using on most other games I play.  Personally, I like the controls as they are almost identical to GW2.

[Sully13]

No but im begining to hate the player.

[Lucky Thirteen]

I don't hate it, I'm just underwhelmed by the story. Game play is fun, characters feel limited but are interesting.

[elrofrost]

Positive, 'professional' reviews got me again, just like with DA2 (I did enjoy ME3 though).

 

My issues with the game after having completed it.

 

1) The main story-line can be completed in under 15 hours if you avoid sidequests (took me 17 with random sidequests here and there).

2) The ratio of side-quests to the main plot is ridiculous.  It felt like I was playing a single-player mmo, (where the majority of side-quests are fetch quests).

3) I haven't started a second game, but I get the feeling that my decisions don't really matter and that the conclusion to the game would be largely the same regardless of my choices (contrasted against an older RPG like the Witcher 2, where you could miss HALF the game because of your choices - now that's roleplaying.  Witcher 3 is supposed to have over 30 different endings...)

4) The main storyline is TERRIBLE.  Felt like I'd already heard this story with the Oblivion gates... Only I can save the world - blah,blah,blah - constant RPG tropes.  I expected more from Bioware.

5) Controls are brutal on PC - I realize this dead horse has already been beaten... but even the controller setup ain't great.  My ranged units still just sit there firing arrows into the distance while getting pummeled by melee enemies.

6) The romance plot-lines are ridiculous - poorly written fanfiction is what they remind me of.

7) Unintuitive UI and menu after menu after menu.

8) A closed 'open' world where I'm constantly trying to find out how the hell to get past invisible barriers.  The world just feels like a crap-ton of beautifully created corridors that funnel me in random directions.

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Agree on all points Though I'd throw in the 8 slot action bar limit. That is just mean.

 

But that doesn't mean I hate the game. It just means I'll play and forget it by next month. Basically it boils down to: if you like MMO style of play you'll love DAI. If you were expected a story driven game with combat - wait for Witcher 3 (I hope).

None of this makes DAI a bad game (besides the crappy PC port). Just a different game I wasn't expecting. I wanted drama. I wanted great story that made me feel for the characters. Frankly, I don't a crap about any of these guys. And with too many plot-holes (try playing as en elf) - this game didn't live up to Bioware's rep. This was their last chance to keep that rep. Ol'well. Things change. One thing though. BW is no longer on my auto-pre-buy list. 

 

I give the game a 7/10. I'd rate it 8 if they actually fixed the PC controls and add more slot bars.

[elrofrost]

No, I've very much enjoyed this game. 115 hours on my playthrough and I'm now 10 hours into my second.

However, I agree with some of your points. Such as the sidequests and the open world regions. I felt the entire open world part of game took away from the main story and the characters. I did love exploring the regions but playing the main story missions was by the far the most fulfilling parts of the game. I have only seen one romance and I thought it was very well written. I have it for Xbox one and the controls are fine so I can't relate to your issue with the controls on the PC.

 

Like with any game, there are some things I didn't like but overall this game definitely didn't disappoint and I had very high expectations going in.

BW was trying to compete with Skyrim. Rather, BW/EA wanted the sales that Syrim had. And still has.

 

If you are gonna create a huge open world (which DAI isn't - too many invisible walls) then you either need to hire a team whose job it is to create weekly content and bug fixes or release a powerful modding kit. Skyrim isn't great because of Skyrim itself. The PC controls were TERRIBLE when it was released. And other than the DB quest line (and TG -maybe) the main quests sucked. Now some of the side quests were amazing. But add a modding kit and the game is great. It's the modders that made Skyrim (and continue too) great not Bethesda. 

It's the modders that fixed the PC controls; added inventory management; and even fixed many of the quests. Bethesda released a few patches.. but most of the quests fixes were from modders. This includes the expansions. And of course, the modders built on it.

 

I think if BW had a modding kit with DAI half of us  wouldn't be here bitching. We'd be busy writing code, fixing, and creating.

[Tensai]

 

 

1) The main story-line can be completed in under 15 hours if you avoid sidequests (took me 17 with random sidequests here and there).

 And ME1/2 took 6 six hours. I think ME3 was pretty long with 12.

 

I share you concerns, but i wouldn't say "hate" is a suitable word.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Man, this must be the most negative forums I've ever checked out.

Welcome to the BSN, where every game BW releases is trashed repeatedly untill the next game is out, then its put on a pedestal & used as a example on why the new game sucks in comparison

[ORTesc]

Hate is a strong word. I did get about 90 hours out of it before I uninstalled. Disapointed is the better term.

[Maverick827]

My biggest hope for the game is that they support it with a few good DLC packs that help balance the cinematic story content with the non-cinematic side quest content more.  

 

Imagine that we get three or four new major quests from DLC that take a few hours each to help break up the side quest grind.  The game would be a lot better for it.

 

That said, the DLC could also just be a new zone with the same old side quests, which obviously would only exacerbate the problem.

[Vilegrim]

Hate? Nope.

[Murphy]

I just passed the game and I think I enjoyed it the least out of all 3 games.
Characters felt underdeveloped, I was hoping they would do more with them.
It wasn't a compelling story. ( It could have been )
Final battle was meh, I kicked Coryphifish's ass and took his pet dragon down in seconds. And this was on hard mode. ( Easiest dragon in the game for some reason??? )

I liked the art style, and some characters were interesting. Also, the soundtrack was F*****g CLASS.
If only the game was as compelling as the soundtrack, that title music made me want climb Everest or wrestle a Polar bear.
It wasn't a bad game by any means, just..... a little disappointing, I expected more from Bioware.

ME2 is still their best work by miles in my book. I've passed it countless times and I still enjoy that game.
And I had the soundtrack to that game on my ipod, Epicness.

[iheartbob]

There are definitely some areas that could be improved upon, but I am absolutely loving it so far.

 

Working on a second play through right now and already have a third one planned immediately after I finish this one.

[Bladenite1481]

I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. I am meh, about it. For me one of the biggest complaints is the characters. The writing is trying too hard, makes most of them feel like made for Television hallmark specials representing specific PSA's. So most of the time I roll my eyes and don't really care what they say, because I don't want you to teach me something..I want you so shut up unless you're funny or have something to tell me about the Lore that isn't another PSA branded into the Lore. Most of the companions very much feel like cliche ridden stereo types from just about any fictional war story, so again I find it difficult to gain any vested interest in them. So, YMMV but I find the game pretty vapid. 

[Murphy]

What I hate is ungrateful, selfish, so-in-sos posting hate threads...

 

 

Ungrateful? Selfish? The guy spent alot of money on the game and he thought it was poor, he's allowed to criticize it and have an opinion. You sound like a fool when you say those things y'know.