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[Swaggerjking]

I'm very curious right now i think its wolfy and flem in a body with a possibility of ogb soul but she could be dead doubt it though but i wonder if we are heading for a clash of four or five group of gods with eleven ,Maker, forbidden, old god/ other original Magisters in group  and maybe avar 

[Tony208]

Dunno who killed who and doubt that it even happened. The way I see it is there are 3 god souls in Solas' body.

[Auroqui]

after that scene i was wishing i had read the text on the dread wolf statue in mythals temple. hopefully it is in the codex, might get some subtle hints in it?

 

where is the statue? i've been running around the temple for ages but i can't find it ;_;

[publicPWN]

The whole god baby thing is only if you took Morrigan's offer in DA:O right?

[Emeriick]

DLC? Optomistic, much? Try 'Dragon Age 4'.

 

Bioware and EA would not pass up the chance at making an expansion or two for DAI before they move onto DA4,

[LegendaryBlade]

This is one of the few things I didn't like about Inquisition actually, the epilogue's plot hook. I'm a huge proponent that stories should be self contained, especially in videogames where production times are much longer. I don't want to wait two/three years to see how something ends, ESPECIALLY since we've been waiting to see where the Flemeth subplot goes since Origins, or at least since she showed up in DA2. It feels like a cheap way to bait us along.

[Fallstar]

Since this is a major plot point, perhaps it indicates that we will receive an expansion rather than a 1-2 hour DLC?

[TheDarkShape]

This clearly seems like a setup for Dragon Age IV and not for some DLC (which will obviously happen, but it won't focus on this).

[SwobyJ]

Since this is a major plot point, perhaps it indicates that we will receive an expansion rather than a 1-2 hour DLC?

 

This clearly seems like a setup for Dragon Age IV and not for some DLC (which will obviously happen, but it won't focus on this).

 

Eh, could be either. But imo it sounds more like a large DLC (basically expansion sized).

 

At least, I hope so. I don't want this to drag on.

[Cylan Cooper]

Bioware and EA would not pass up the chance at making an expansion or two for DAI before they move onto DA4,

Is an expansion to a game with characters people love where you lead a powerful organization a bad thing?

[SwobyJ]

Is an expansion to a game with characters people love where you lead a powerful organization a bad thing?

 

Indeed.

 

An expansion or sequel hook is not a bad thing in itself.

 

The main game itself feeling like parts of it were cut out and the credits resulting in a "U BUY DLC NOW?" message however, is. (ME3)

 

If BW releases a 20-30+ hour (to compare to DAI's 50 hour, so I'm talking main story taken at a regular pace) expansion DLC by the end of next year, I don't think that concept would be widely hated on.

[MAF]

When Flemeth calls Solas "Dread Wolf" and "My dear friend" it just clicked.

 

We all know to this point Mythal and Flemeth are in the same body.

 

But when Flemeth says "She was betrayed - as I was betrayed - as the world was betrayed" she clearly states there are 3 women that suffered betrayal.

 

Breaking it down the world was betrayed through Mythal, then Andraste was betrayed and burned alive with her friend Shartan the leader of the elf slaves then Flemeth was betrayed, at that time Zathrian was known as being centuries old, also explains how Solas knows of a spell to remove the Vallaslin which he used on himself to remove Zathrian's Vallaslin.

 

Also Zathrian is in south-eastern Ferelden in the Brecilian Forest where a majority of the battles between elves and Tevinter human mages occurred, also the origin of the Dalish elf began in the Brecilian Forest. Also home of Tamlen the elf that disappeared through the eluvian that was in that forest which is the same eluvian Merrill fixed in DA2.

 

1. Fen'Harel/Dread Wolf (convinced the forgotten gods and the old gods to seal away giving the slave elves freedom)
2. Shartan (leader of the elven slaves who joined Andraste's rebellion, burned alongside Andraste)
3. Zathrian (he was responsible for the curse of Witherfang which he summoned a spirit into the world and set it upon the humans who had wronged him (during Andraste's rebellion) and can explain why he carries the jawbone necklace) (codex in DAO says Zathrian survived 5th blight and disappears from his clan)

 

Just as Flemeth is caring Mythal and Andraste so is Zathrian caring the Dread Wolf spirit and Shartan's soul.  I'm still not sure about Zathrian but its a floating thought.

 

Also on DA2 when Flemeth is raised at the altar by Merrill she states she is but a fraction of herself and she can exist in different places at the same time. The end could very well represent her leaving that location and possibly coming back existing still through another fraction of herself somewhere else.

[Taura-Tierno]

Indeed.

 

An expansion or sequel hook is not a bad thing in itself.

 

The main game itself feeling like parts of it were cut out and the credits resulting in a "U BUY DLC NOW?" message however, is. (ME3)

 

If BW releases a 20-30+ hour (to compare to DAI's 50 hour, so I'm talking main story taken at a regular pace) expansion DLC by the end of next year, I don't think that concept would be widely hated on.

 

 

20-30+ hours expansion DLC? That is required to be happy? You do realise that ~30 hours is an entire, fully-fledged games, generally speaking? And a long game at that. No that I would mind, of course, I'd be happy, but I would hardly call it realistic to hope for. Awakening was, what ... 20 hours at the completely proper playthrough? My latest was 13, but I probably skipped a lot of dialogue then. And Awakening was a very good expansion. 

Requiring 30+ hours from an expansion to be happy is just extremely entitled. People like you would probably be outraged if that 30+ hours expansion cost as much as a full game as well, despite it being longer than most full games. 

[Heimdall]

Indeed.

An expansion or sequel hook is not a bad thing in itself.

The main game itself feeling like parts of it were cut out and the credits resulting in a "U BUY DLC NOW?" message however, is. (ME3)

If BW releases a 20-30+ hour (to compare to DAI's 50 hour, so I'm talking main story taken at a regular pace) expansion DLC by the end of next year, I don't think that concept would be widely hated on.

A 20-30+ hour expansion pack? That's pretty much a full fledged game, Awakening doesn't take that long to run through. 10-15+ at the most, I think.

I'm pretty sure they said such an add-on would consist of a new open area, which could be fun.

[Frybread76]

It's hard to tell what happens in the epilogue.  Did Solas/Fen'Harel absorb Flemeth/Mythal's essence?  Or Did Flemeth/Mythal "steal" Solas/Fen'Harel's body?  All we can say at this point is they merge somehow and Flemeth's body appears to "die."  Hopefully these developments are explored a little further in DLC.

[MAF]

I kept playing the epilogue over and over and over.

 

While Flemeth is drying up it looks like her essence is gradually going into the eluvian. Just before Solas shows up Flemeth is pushing into the eluvian that green glow that she took out of Keiran. Makes me wonder if she and the soul of the dragon both went into wherever the heck that particular eluvian leads to. I fully agree with @juromaro that "flemeth imparted part of herself into Morrigan" so she is still alive just dormant and Morrigan is clueless.

 

Solas is a very powerful elf according to the folklore of the codex all that smoke and eye color change might be his mana battery recharged up or he's about to do some serious magic. I don't think Flemeth possesed Solas but instead could be a temporary vessel just like Flemeth was to the dragon soul she removed from Keiran that did not change her. 

[Vyndral]

I think pretty much anything could happen.

When Solas shows up Morrigan is releasing something into the gateway. What? Heck when she gets zapped the blue smoke? Around her heads for the gateway. It doesn't swirl around Solas, as if he were absorbing something.

The fact his eyes glow when he looks up, could mean anything at all.


Also a little distinction. In this game, Flemmeth does not say she can't posses an unwilling soul. She says she won't. At least she did in my dialogue choices. There is a huge difference in those two statements. But still if they are merged since Flemmeth did express her disdain for hostile take over, chance are Solas is driving the car.

But really the whole thing is so vague as to what happened they could Literally do anything.

[JosephShrike]

Just to point this out, the cutscene is the same with the OGB or not (Morrigan had a son but not the OGB in my playthrough), but I guess the color of whatever Flemeth is putting through the Eluvian is different, at least from the comments here and elsewhere (green for OGB and purple for mine). From what I gathered from the dialogue, I think Flemeth knew well that Solas was coming for her and likely sent part of herself through the Eluvian or imparted into Morrigan as has been suggested. I find it hard to believe that Solas, who has obviously made a few mistakes in just the timeline of the Inquisition, would be able to get the jump on her so easily.

 

As for the orb, that's kind of the part I'm puzzled about. I think it's obvious Solas did not want what transpired to happen, otherwise he would not have been so proactive in aiding the Inquisition, beyond helping them try to obtain the orb.

[joejoe099]

why can't they share a bod? Sharing is caring.

[EdwinLi]

Just to point this out, the cutscene is the same with the OGB or not (Morrigan had a son but not the OGB in my playthrough), but I guess the color of whatever Flemeth is putting through the Eluvian is different, at least from the comments here and elsewhere (green for OGB and purple for mine). From what I gathered from the dialogue, I think Flemeth knew well that Solas was coming for her and likely sent part of herself through the Eluvian or imparted into Morrigan as has been suggested. I find it hard to believe that Solas, who has obviously made a few mistakes in just the timeline of the Inquisition, would be able to get the jump on her so easily.

 

As for the orb, that's kind of the part I'm puzzled about. I think it's obvious Solas did not want what transpired to happen, otherwise he would not have been so proactive in aiding the Inquisition, beyond helping them try to obtain the orb.

 

Well if you go through the Banter between Cole and Solas you'll learn some interesting things about the Eluvian.

 

Spoiler

The Elven Gods are trapped in the Eluvians.

[JosephShrike]

Yeah. I may have been really drunk when I finished the game. I fully expect like half the **** I'm talking about is either woefully inaccurate or I totally thought I could stare down conversations and forgot to listen.