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[Potbox]

Mages. Imprisoned.

All I know is that Iron Bull greatly approved my decision, while Leliana does nothing but complain about it whenever she can (is it just me or is she the whiniest spymaster ever). So I feel like I did the right thing.

[MrFob]

Mages. Going on the information we had at the time, a Tewinter Magister all but occupying Redcliffe sounded to demand my attention more urgently then some angry Templars camped out somewhere in the wilderness.

 

So it wasn't as much of a choice of factions as it was a choice about the more important mission for me.

[JumboWheat01]

Mage was my first choice, but that's actually the default "first choice" I have had in all the Dragon Age games.  Just seems to be where I go.  However, I have done the Templar one, and I will say I like it a little better.  I rather enjoyed the whole back-and-forth with Envy.  I should really do a mage going with the Templars at least once, just to see if it's any different.

[Strobes]

Played DA:O and DA2, read Asunder, Masked Empire and I was pro mages all the way.. Up until seeing the rebellion itself in inquisition. Made me doubt mages when I learned they tried to ally themselves with Tevinter. Just by recalling Fenris' background and all that slavery crap going on in Tevinter made me go with the templars. Since the circles are gone in Orlais and Ferelden, those mages can flee to Tevinter, or turn to blood magic. Figured that I might as well give the few good templars a chance. (Thrask, Alistair, Cullen, etc)

[Barquiel]

Mages (alliance): I wanted to disband the templars since DA:O, and that seemed the best way to do so.

But even without metagaming or my pro-mage freedom agenda...we have Fiona politely inviting you to Redcliffe to discuss a possible alliance or templars who assault some elderly chantry sister. And after I went to Redcliffe and talked to Fiona I felt it more urgent to deal with Tevinter and time magic instead of going off in in the middle of nowhere to investigate why some templars were acting like jerks in Val Royeaux.

[Gileadan]

I didn't read any of the books.

 

In the game, I allied with the templars and never looked back.

 

I did check out Redcliffe before I went to Therinfal, but the mages had already found new friends. And I agreed with Varric when he said "I'm trying to come up with something dumber you could have done and I've got nothing." 

 

That aside, Templars immediately seemed the better choice given that there were rifts with demons pouring out everywhere. After all, the idea was to kill the fade critters, not bait in more of them.

 

And finally, should the Venatori pull off some weird magic in Redcliffe... I had just allied with the best mage killers out there, right?

[Elsariel]

Mages and allied with them because I always play human mage and I wanted mages to be seen in a good light.

[TheLastArchivist]

Chose the mages first because they seemed the only ones capable of closing the Breach.

 

It still doesn't make sense to me that the templars should have any magical power at all.

 

But anyway, choices are made available for plot reasons...

[JumboWheat01]

Chose the mages first because they seemed the only ones capable of closing the Breach.

 

It still doesn't make sense to me that the templars should have any magical power at all.

 

But anyway, choices are made available for plot reasons...

 

It's not that the Templars have magical power, is that they can DENY magical power, by, as Solas sort of put it, "re-enforcing reality" and preventing the Fade from getting a foothold in the the world.  And that's pretty much what a Fade Rift is, no?  The Fade having a massive foothold on the world.  So they're using their lyrium-enhanced abilities to weaken that foothold, allowing our Inquisitorialness to close the portal much more effectively.

[Icy Magebane]

For my first and only playthrough, I chose the Templars because I favor order.  The pro-mage argument has never made much sense to me, so obviously my first character wasn't going to deviate too far from that.  Maybe if this were a better game I'd consider doing a pro-mage roleplay, but it isn't, so I don't really feel like it.

[ManleySteele]

In my first play-through I started with the Templars, but when I saw the game mechanic was going to kill them while I tried to deal with the Seeker officers, I went back and switched to the mages.  I allied with them because my character refuses to own people. Can't say I'm sorry for the choice.

[Boost32]

Chose the mages first because they seemed the only ones capable of closing the Breach.
 
It still doesn't make sense to me that the templars should have any magical power at all.
 
But anyway, choices are made available for plot reasons...

Of course it does make sente, Templars uses their anti magical powers to weaken the Breach , with this you can close it like any smaller Rift.

[Aaleel]

Mages.  My Inquisitor thinks the Circle system is wrong, and people should have to actually commit a crime other than be born a certain way to justify being imprisoned.  My Inquisitor's talks with Vivienne didn't go so well, but oh well she can complain to Divine Victoria (Leliana) if she doesn't like it.

 

When I play my pure believer, Joan of Arc type Inquisitor I may choose the Templars, but for now it'll be mages.

[hexjinx]

Something I liked about the portrayal of the mage/templar conflict in Inquisition is that both sides are portrayed in a rather neutral light, both mages and templars having clearly made mistakes and having their faults. In fact I think this is the first game to really highlight the darker side of mages beyond the using blood magic in desperation tactic. Seeing what happened to the Tranquil was a major eye opener, amongst other stories of mages killing mages for a difference in opinion on the rebellion. Templars, of course, are explained as taking advantage of the situation to gain more power, and there are those in the order against that decision.

 

I think both sides have their pros and cons, and I have difficulty considering one 100% better than the other, so my decision is made purely on a roleplaying standpoint. My mage Trevelyan would be really sympathetic to the mages, either because she is sympathetic to the pro-Circle mages forced to join the rebellion to avoid being killed or is pro-mage freedom. Meanwhile my rogue Cadash views magic and the Fade as this foreign and dangerous thing she'd rather not mess with, and probably is more used to dealing with Templars as a previous lyrium smuggler. The list could go on for my headcanon reasoning varying with whichever Inquisitor I'm playing.

 

I played a mage first so I experienced this quest line first. It feels (and probably is) longer, has characters that develop over the quest line, and the aspect of time travel is interesting and disturbing in how it effects your companions. Seeing the future in which you fail (or rather weren't present) makes the stakes of the game feel higher. Whereas on the Templar side, you are fully aware of being caught in your own head against Envy. You know you'll make it out, and the threat of what Envy wants to do is emptier in comparison to what will happen if you die/fail/aren't present as you see in the Mages quest. I liked seeing Samson as a return character and villain, but Calpernia does hold her own as a villain and allows for a deeper look into Tevinter and Corypheus. But throwing Fiona in as a random mini-boss during Haven feels like a pretty sad way to deal with an arguably semi-major character (due to appearances and books etc.) Ser Barris is a fantastic addition, though, and a total bonus. Overall story-wise, I feel as if the Mages quest flows better than the Templars, but I don't think one side is ultimately better than the other in the overall conflict within Inquisition. If the Templar quest was a bit longer and added more suspense, then I'd probably enjoy it more.

[SgtSteel91]

My first interaction with the Templars was them punching a nun and telling me to bugger off. Then Fiona walks in an offers me an alliance. Going to Redcliff cemented my choice to side with the Mages since Alexius and the Venatori presented a greater threat to be dealt with ASAP compared to the Templars just refusing to help, which could have been dealt with at any time.

[SiIencE]

Quite funny this, i thought i would be able to do both quests... So first time i had the Templars by accident...

2nd time i picked the mages because i wanted to see what it was about.

 

The battles felt kinda anticlimactic though expected a bit more, from the 2 the templars took the longest, for a castle it was quite empty...

[Catche Jagger]

Sided with the Templars. Full alliance.


And that's all I have to say about that.

[SiIencE]

I'm just wondering and maybe i screwed up somewhere but.

 

When i first sided with the Templars (by accident i assumed when i did the war table quest the mage 1 would unlock and WHY aren't both of the quests on the war table??) I came to a point in the game where it said 'Promote Ser Barris' but it didn't trigger because i didn't have anyone to judge... In a later pt i did and he becomes Knight Commander i assume.

 

I did choose the mages in my 2nd pt but i didn't see anything related to the mages on the war table except people being scared and what not, people objecting to it.

However i never got an agent from it (Ser Barris when you side with Templars as alliance) or anything else? Mages have no leader? I know Fiona is in Skyhold the whole time but you don't get the promotion thing when you take the mages i assume?

 

And to be honest i don't really see a difference later in the game, i still get tons of Red Templars and barely see any mage even though i sided with the templars? 

I still encounter the same enemies in the last mission for the Well of Sorrows and i've finished the game 4 times now. So Mages/Templars still result in the same enemies? Mostly red templars by the looks of it. The only difference was that i got 'Samson' near the well or the Tevinter slave woman (forgot her name) there seems to be no big difference between the 2 choices besides that.  

 

Biggest difference is the quest itself, templar quest or mage quest, and in all fairness i wasn't really impressed by either of them.

What i do like when you side with the templars is that you get the 'scrying crystal' or something from 1 place which allows you to spy on the mage leader and it shows the conversations and you get her master to 'join'.

 

When you side with the mages you get some crap quests to disable the armor Samson is wearing.

 

1 fun fact though, if you go to Redcliffe and walk around a bit before making the alliance you will encounter conner if you left him alive in DAO.

 

I think the Templars are more rewarding to side with,

-Ser Barris Promotion (Agent 5% bonus for Cullen)

-Better quest and another agent from Shrine of Dumat (i think not sure about the agent part but he has usefull info).

 

Only upside of siding with mages is seeing Allistar if he's king and when he's ruling with Anora they will both show (off course when he's ruling with the Warden he will show up alone i believe...)

- No agent?

- No promotion.

[BAC PARTY CITY]

Mages as allied.

 

And honestly before this game I had a misconception of what templars were. I didn't know they ingested lyrium. I thought they were just knights. Mages were the rarer/more special individuals who were often ostracized and downtrodden. Thats why I allied as a group of people mages seemed to need my help and as the Inquisitor I could change Thedas for the better for every mage.

 

I saw the Templars as a group that could be disbanded or fade away.  Mages are like a race or sexuality they are here to stay. Templars is an organization or military unit whose soldiers can do something else. Plus I think its kind of weird they ingest lyrium. The seekers under the right leadership *cough* Cassandra *cough* are the best and should simply take over in place of the Templars imo.

[Eyes_Only]

I side with the mages for several reasons.

 

1. I can not let Redcliffe be occupied by Tevinter. I didn't manage to keep everyone alive 10 years ago when Conner got possessed just to let some Tevinter slaver take control.

2. Because it seemed like the harder choice. Every time something went wrong, someone would suggest we just go get the Templars instead. Like getting the Templars was the right thing to do because it was easier. Well my mage inquisitor doesn't walk her path because its easy.

 

3. Templars are nothing but thugs and bullies. Even Cullen. How many innocent mages did he kill in Kirkwall in the Knight Commander's name before coming to his senses when he faced the sarcastic sneer of my mage champion of Kirkwall. And back in the circle tower his whole "just kill them all" attitude was not very becoming. Now I know he is a changed and better man now. But he was and is not the only Templar who felt that way about mages. What gives a Templar the right to kill innocent people?

 

4. Mages have always been viewed as being no better then a blight. Snatched away from their families, hunted and dragged to circles. or simply killed. Honestly (and this could be simply bad game mechanics) but if the demon threat was so serious then how come my own mage never gets tempted. Hmm? My mages managed just fine outside of a circle. Others can to.

 

5. Time travel... Even if the mages were going to be unable in the end to help with the rifts. At least the Tevinter plans were destroyed. Knowing they had time travel and could go back through time to try and undo what you had fixed, how can you ignore this?

 

6. Siding with the mages lets them show the world they are not to be feared. That they are human like everyone else and deserve the same fair treatment. Its no life worth living when the tip of a Templar blade is at your throat every day.

 

7. Did I happen to mention bullies? Again... Templars are murdering thugs.

 

8 My favorite character in all of Dragon Age is a mage. My favorite follower in DA is a mage... what more can I say. I side with the repressed and find the rebellion justified. And now the mages with WITH the tempars/inquisition forces to help save the world.

[EmissaryofLies]

I chose mages because the game did not want me to. It did everything in its power to discredit and **** on the mage rebellion and everything that it ever stood for.

 

I'll always back Tevinter for what Inquisition did to my mages, but given a choice between the two I go with the mages.

[Spectre Impersonator]

Grudgingly chose mages, wishing I could murder both of them. Killed the templars and stuck the mages back in the Circles.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Did the Templars my first time through as my char wasn't going to to try and take on a magister without as many Templar as I could manage.

Just tried the Mage quest....and wow that was poorly thought out. So apparently Alexius is so badass when you go to the future that he single handedly fights off the Inquisition forces and the Fereldan army, including two companions, but he crumbles like wet tissue paper at the sight of you. Also found it poorly thought out that none of the mages aid you during the mission. They come with you at the end only because they shat in every other bed, unlike the Templars who fight beside you, act as bad asses, and willingly join in search of redemption. Really wanted an option at the for "Good luck with that Fiona, we do not want to associate with you. Hey Anora, what would you say to an alliance? We did just help you out. We'll help you chase these morons into Orlais."