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[Corephyfish]

You don't need to have sex to love and show love for someone, you can have a chaste romance with Dorian. I personally believe that Solas' romance was one of the most mature and beautiful, and it just fit that it was supposed to end the way it did. Just head canon it, you don't need an animation to prove it.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Again with the p0rn! It´s like this forum is flooded with bible belt kids who think romantic intimacy equals public intercourse.

 

I don't understand how people here fail to grasp a fundamental concept and that is this :-

 

If violence, death, gore, horror and vulgar language are not implied and instead is direct in this game, why is sex alone implied ? When has sex become something that is worse or more taboo than violence, death, gore, horror and vulgar language to deserve its implied status ? Are we living in some primitive religious fundamentalist society or something ?

 

As I have said before, this is most likely a cultural continent thing. This game is made in North America after all, a continent that is home to prudes, bible belt mentality and sex hypocrisy. 

 

*Disgusted noise*

[AresKeith]

As I have said before, this is most likely a cultural continent thing. This game is made in North America after all, a continent that is home to prudes, bible belt mentality and sex hypocrisy. 

 

*Disgusted noise*

 

Or it could be that people just have different preferences

[Uccio]

A fade-to-black ala DA2 would honestly be my preferred way of doing things. With dialogue options beforehand (for romances where it makes sense, not one like Bull's for example) to say 'no I'd rather not do the dirty with you.'

 

That way, those who want physical intimacy can have it. Those who don't want it, don't have to. 

 

Well then we agree on that at least.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Or it could be that people just have different preferences

 

Preferences that makes no logical sense in a modern world...as I have demonstrated with the statement in bold font...

 

I seriously cannot believe that I, someone from Southeast Asia, Malaysia to be specific (which is an Islamic country) who came from a traditional devout Hindu family, have enough sense to be more open towards sexuality and portrayal of sex in the media as opposed to Westerners...

 

The world really is going mad...

[AresKeith]

Preferences that makes no logical sense in a modern world...as I have demonstrated with the statement in bold font...

 

I seriously cannot believe that I, someone from Southeast Asia, Malaysia to be specific (which is an Islamic country) who came from a traditional devout Hindu family, have enough sense to be more open towards sexuality and portrayal of sex in the media as opposed to Westerners...

 

The world really is going mad...

 

What's really going mad is the fact that people are making sure a big deal outta this

 

Josephine doesn't have a sex scene, so what? I would've liked if there was a option to have one, but it doesn't make her less of romance option because of it

[Iakus]

Preferences that makes no logical sense in a modern world...as I have demonstrated with the statement in bold font...

 

I seriously cannot believe that I, someone from Southeast Asia, Malaysia to be specific (which is an Islamic country) who came from a traditional devout Hindu family, have enough sense to be more open towards sexuality and portrayal of sex in the media as opposed to Westerners...

 

The world really is going mad...

I'm sure there's an arrogant something-centric statement that could describe the above.

 

So I'll just stick with "Someone has a preference that's not mine!  What is the world coming too!?"

[Inanna Athanasia]

I think the female and Cullen one to be romantic.

 

Spoiler

The dance at the palace was very romantic to me, the kiss by the lake, heck even the kiss on the wall (first time he kisses her) were romantic too. I also liked the sex scene too. ME always has the sex scene as the big moment before the last battle and I always found that not romantic personally. It was more of a 'we could all die tomorrow, so lets get laid' feel. I like how with Cullen's it was it felt like he just couldn't hold back anymore and all, which felt more real then ME's usually are. I suppose it comes down to ones view on what is romantic or not. I love ME games and have played all 3 more than 20 some times, but even so, I don't think they were tops over this game. I love Kaidan and he is my femShep main man, but I was shocked at some of the times you expected him to be more compassionate and romantic that weren't. Sure the 2 scene's above are, but those are only 2 in the entire game. Cullen had a lot of them in DA:I. 

 

So far he is the only one I have completed and obviously I am very happy with it. Well see what happens in second game as a Male.

[House Lannister]

I romanced Josie until she broke up with me in Val Royeux. Proceeded to have break up sex with Dorian.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No. Asexuals are male, female or anything in-between. Asexuality has nothing to do with gender. Josephine is bisexual and can be seen as asexual or sexual.

Or demisexual. 

[webbedfeet]

Preferences that makes no logical sense in a modern world...as I have demonstrated with the statement in bold font...

 

I seriously cannot believe that I, someone from Southeast Asia, Malaysia to be specific (which is an Islamic country) who came from a traditional devout Hindu family, have enough sense to be more open towards sexuality and portrayal of sex in the media as opposed to Westerners...

 

The world really is going mad...

I'm from Thailand, your northern neighbour, I'm an atheist from a liberal family who advocates sex before marriage, and I would respectfully disagree with you.

Seriously, people have different preferences. I'm asexual. I love Josephine's romance the way it is.  Maybe it's not to your taste, and I'm sorry to hear that. But it's to other people's tastes, and you have no right to say they are not entitled to their tastes, or that they have no sense to do so. Or that they're immature, or broken, or wrong.

Now, on the subject of Josephine's romance.....

Calling Josephine's romance 'not a romance' because it has no visible sex is....well, short-sighted at best. As long as it has romantic love, it's a romance. Why does it make no logical sense? I fail to see this. If anything, it makes more logical sense in the modern world now than the old world, because you're no longer bound by practical requirements to have kids and reproduce. In the modern world, logically no one should GAF who you bang or whether you bang or not. Having kids is not a requirement. Reproduction is not a requirement. I say this as a career geneticist.

And yep, you can be straight while being asexual. It's call heteroromantic asexual.

And you can be straight and sexual while preferring to take your time and relationships more slowly, too.

Josephine's romance aims towards these two groups, I believe. If you want your relationships fast and matter-of-fact on the physical front, then that means that Josephine just isn't your ideal romance. Too bad, reroll, go for Cass or wait for the next game.

But don't say that it's not a romance, or that people are broken and nonsensical or overly religious or whatever-have-you for liking it. It's just not what you want. Accept it and move on with life.

[Doominike]

Romanced Sera and Solas so far. My vashoth gal was definitely boning Sera, though the scene faded to black before any clothes came off. With Solas it's only kinda implied, if you squint I guess, but that didn't really bother me. What did though is that he said he'd explain why it was "not right" after I killed Corypheus but he just went away instead and never actually explained me so now I kinda want to track him down in an expansion and get my Lavellan some explanations, and the option to tell him that she actually doesn't mind his reason (I actually head canoned that she felt something special magic wise about him and it's part of her attraction)

[LelianaNeverLovedMe]

Personally, I loved Josephine's romance arc and the associated cut scenes. I say this not an asexual or someone looking for "Disney Princess Hand Holding." Relationships are about intimacy, not just sex. I felt the cutscenes presented captured that very well. I don't need to see some cutscene to know my Qunari Inquisitor and Josephine have sex at some point. There are plenty of long looks and physical contact to suggest a definite attraction between them. I think it does a well-written romance a disservice to discount it due to a lack of digital boobies. It says more about the complaint's view of of what relationships "should be" than anything.

[Hazegurl]

I romanced Dorian. I was surprised at how much I liked him and the romance (not done with the entire game though). However, I would be lying if I said their scene was as hot as Kaidan and MShepard. The Mass Effect team know how to do a hot love scene that is for sure and I hope they keep it up for ME4.  This fade to black thing doesn't work for me. I understand sex isn't everything but when you don't have much dialogue and interactions with the companions, a good romantic sex scene can really make up for that.

[Battlebloodmage]

There could be physical intimacy in her romance, you just don't see it. Some people prefer it that way, and why shouldn't their preferences get acknowledged?

Could easily added the sex scene and another choice to skip to fade to black. Everyone then be happy. Why aren't the preference for people who want to see the sex scene get acknowledged?

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Could easily added the sex scene and another choice to skip to fade to black. Everyone then be happy. Why aren't the preference for people who want to see the sex scene get acknowledged?

aww man not this thread again ;-;

 

I never said they shouldn't be acknowledged. But saying that the romance 'isn't a real romance' because there's no sex scene is just silly. Which is the whole reason I replied to this thread, and in hindsight maybe I shouldn't have touched it with a ten foot pole.

 

I have no issue with sex scenes but they should be optional. I'd still pick the 'sex scene' option. I just want people who dislike/don't want sex scenes to not be forced into them.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Could easily added the sex scene and another choice to skip to fade to black. Everyone then be happy. Why aren't the preference for people who want to see the sex scene get acknowledged?

6 out of 8 LIs have explicit sex scenes and 7 of 8 Lis reference that they have sex with you in DAI alone. Other games have it as part of every romance. So you are getting acknowledged. Meanwhile this is the first time in years my preference is acknowledged. 

[Battlebloodmage]

> Why aren't those who prefer sex scenes getting sex scenes?
> 6 out of 8 LIs have explicit sex scenes and 7 of 8 Lis reference that they have sex with you in DAI alone. Other games have it as part of every romance.
 

I don't care what other people have. According to Bioware, most people only play the game once, so they can only choose one romance, and their romance is not the same as everybody else. Like I said, have the fade to black for those who want it and sex scenes for those who want to see the sex scenes, everyone's happy.

[QueenOfTheDales]

Im glad they finally added boobs though. Everyone has nipple not that big of a deal. It makes it seem more real. I thought Blackwalls sex scene was amazing. Solas' romance is quite sad, even more sad given the end of the game....Sera's is what you'd expect from a crazy ass elf, iron Bull is funny, but not really meaningful, havent played Josephine, seems quiet boring, Cullen was like the Alistair of the game, haven't played Dorian but it look sweet. 

It's like they only care about you in the cutscenes, no party banter about your relationship ( except Solas's) 

I want a relationship where they actually care if I'm hurt in battle or not, or are atleast more affectionate. How about instead of us gonig to them, they come to us. Why do we have to do everything. I want to be pampered like a princess.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't care what other people have. According to Bioware, most people only play the game once, so they can only choose one romance, and their romance is not the same as everybody else. Like I said, have the fade to black for those who want it and sex scenes for those who want to see the sex scenes, everyone's happy.

The animator Richard had enough on his plate when doing her romance, so he wouldn't be happy. Neither would the writer Sylvia or the VA Allegra since they and Richard didn't like the idea of having one otherwise there would have been one. And those who enjoy the scenes that took the place of the sex scene wouldn't be happy since those scenes wouldn't exist. So no, everybody would not be happy. 

[Battlebloodmage]

The animator Richard had enough on his plate when doing her romance, so he wouldn't be happy. Neither would the writer Sylvia or the VA Allegra since they and Richard didn't like the idea of having one otherwise there would have been one. So no, everybody would not be happy.

Yeah, cutting to black would take a lot of efforts. lol. I didn't know you speak for them. Care to give me their numbers? XD

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah, cutting to black would take a lot of efforts. lol. I didn't know you speak for them. Care to give me their numbers? XD

If all you want is a cut to black, you have it. So why are you still complaining?

All three have said on the Josephine forum they are glad they did it this way and a sex scene wouldn't fit as well.

 

Also as I added, those who like the scenes that took the place of the sex scene wouln't be happy because those scenes wouldn't exist. 

[Battlebloodmage]

If all you want is a cut to black, you have it. So why are you still complaining?

Also as I added, those who like the scenes that took the place of the sex scene wouln't be happy because those scenes wouldn't exist.

I want the sex scene for everyone as well as fade to black for those who choose not to. There is no scene that took place in place of the sex scene in the game. I don't know what the hell you are talking about.

[AresKeith]

Yeah, cutting to black would take a lot of efforts. lol. I didn't know you speak for them. Care to give me their numbers? XD

 

Well you could go in the Josephine thread to see their posts for yourself

[Br3admax]

I'm still not sure why people care.