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[Seanzie88]

looking to buy a new laptop and it is mostly going to be used for gaming,i have around 1000 euros to spend,so any suggestions would be appreciated.

Modifié par Seanzie88, 26 janvier 2010 - 09:07 .

[Jae Onasi]

Don't get an HP laptop. I like their desktops, but I had significant hardware problems with my last laptop and had to send the thing in for repairs twice in 2.5 years. The video card and motherboard overheated twice in a year with what I considered moderate to moderately high use. I think 3 major failures in 2.5 years, the last 2 of which happened within a year for the same thing, is completely unacceptable. HP informed me they could fix this latest problem for $400 since I'm now out of warranty. >.<

If you want a gaming rig, make sure to get a CPU and dedicated video card with enough power to play your current and perhaps anticipated games. Avoid integrated video cards if you can help it.

Whatever you choose, check out the repair rates on consumerreports.org, and choose one of the brands that have low repair rates. Not surprisingly, HP has a high rate of needing repairs. If you buy a warranty (not a bad idea for a laptop) buy it directly from the manufacturer. Best Buy wanted to charge me $800 for a 2 year warranty, and the same thing from HP was $250.

[Seanzie88]

Any ideas on the M15x by alienware?

[Seanzie88]

i would have no idea where to start being honest,love to play games but would not know what i would need for a good build,i dont mind a desktop at all so any suggestions

[SargeantRenegade]

If you want a real gaming system, go for a desktop. Check out your local computer parts stores - they may be able to build you a custom gaming rig for less than the price of a laptop, or if you have the knowledge you could build a custom system yourself for a very reasonable price.

[Seanzie88]

so whats into building a system considering i have f all knowledge as regarding that

[Seanzie88]

i also heard that the nvidea 240m gtx gpu is not great and it comes with the m15x,the 260m is suppose to be far superior,just wondering can i upgrade the card in the m15x or what

Modifié par Seanzie88, 25 janvier 2010 - 10:41 .

[Borschtbeet]

Don't listen to these skeptical pessimists who say you can't have a good gaming system in laptop form.



You certainly can, but it's going to cost you.



The absolute most powerful laptop you can buy is the Falcon Northwest DRX. It uses the Core I7 975, which is the most powerful desktop processor and can have up to 12 gigabytes of DDR3 ram.

It will play anything.



there are less expensive options though that will still play just about anything. Check out Sager Notebooks, Falcon Northwest, or Velocity Micros.



Don't go for Mass produced, assembly line trash like Dell/Alienware, HP, Gateway, etc...

[Seanzie88]

How much would one of these notebooks cost?

[K1492]

http://www.powernote...ks-cat-179.html

I'm also in the market as well and found this site to be pretty good in terms of prices and specs the Asus for around $1065.00 has pretty decent specs.

Modifié par K1492, 25 janvier 2010 - 10:54 .

[Seanzie88]

K1492 wrote...

http://www.powernote...ks-cat-179.html

I'm also in the market as well and found this to be pretty good in terms of prices and specs the Asus for around $1065.00 has pretty decent specs.

Thyanks man i will take a look.

[Borschtbeet]

Seanzie88 wrote...

How much would one of these notebooks cost?

It depends on how it's customized, but for a serious gaming one you'd probably have to start at about 1000 Euros.

[Seanzie88]

Ok well i was thinking of getting a loan and mabye go with 1600,its so hard cos you go buy something and one night your just browsing the net and see all these bad reviews of what you just bought,i didnt know it was so hard to get a good set up but i suppose it would help if i knew a little bit more about all yhis stuff myself,o well i guess im learning.

[Jae Onasi]

I've gamed on a laptop (got Kotor to work on a Compaq with a 32MB vid card, even), so yes, it's possible, but you won't be able to do it on a cheap one. You want to go with one that meets the CPU specs for the games you play, and a dedicated video card (not integrated) that also meets the specs for the games you want to play. If you want to play DA on a laptop, it's not going to be one of the cheapy ones. A desktop will be a lot less expensive for the same CPU/video card specs needed for gaming, unless you absolutely must have the portability. Avoid loans for this if at all possible--better to save up for the one you want so you don't pay a lot of interest for something that's not going to last for more than a few years. 

Modifié par Jae Onasi, 26 janvier 2010 - 03:02 .

[Rheannan]

Seanzie88 wrote...

i would have no idea where to start being honest,love to play games but would not know what i would need for a good build,i dont mind a desktop at all so any suggestions

You'd definitely be better off with a desktop for the reason that if anything needs fixing or changing, a laptop needs to be taken in to an authorised repair centre, while with a desktop, you can just replace the problem part.

Laptop repairs out of warranty aren't cheap when compared to the cost of the actual laptop itself. You also won't be able to upgrade a laptop, only replace the entire thing.

[Matshelge]

Use 700 euroes on a kickass desktop, and spend 300 euroes on a laptop for laptop stuff.



This will pay off in the long run.

[Seanzie88]

So i should go with a desktop,any suggestions as to what model/make i should go for?

[Matshelge]

Well, here is where we need to devide up some lines before we progress.



Do you already own a screen/operating system/keyboard/DVD-rom/ and or any PC from before hand?



Are you able (have the tech knowhow) to build your own pc? It's easy , so worth looking into, and a rewarding experience when you complete it, and it will save you some cash.



Whatever you answered on these two we are looking into these sorts of specs

4-8GB of Ram

Between 500GB and 1TB of harddrive space

A video card from Nvidia in the 200 series (250 or above is goodstuff), or ATI in the 5700 series.

Processor in the Intel Core i5 series or AMD Phenom II series. (Quad-Core)



You will be wanting to run Windows 7 to get full usage out of these parts aswell.



If you already have a case, screen, keyboard, diskdrive, go with the high end numbers, if you don't go for the normal or midrange numbers. (That means, 8GB of ram if you are good to upgrade, or 4 if you buy everything new)



This desktop will be able to last you for ages, and would cost a small fortune to get in laptop format.

[Seanzie88]

Matshelge wrote...

Well, here is where we need to devide up some lines before we progress.

Do you already own a screen/operating system/keyboard/DVD-rom/ and or any PC from before hand?

Are you able (have the tech knowhow) to build your own pc? It's easy , so worth looking into, and a rewarding experience when you complete it, and it will save you some cash.

Whatever you answered on these two we are looking into these sorts of specs
4-8GB of Ram
Between 500GB and 1TB of harddrive space
A video card from Nvidia in the 200 series (250 or above is goodstuff), or ATI in the 5700 series.
Processor in the Intel Core i5 series or AMD Phenom II series. (Quad-Core)

You will be wanting to run Windows 7 to get full usage out of these parts aswell.

If you already have a case, screen, keyboard, diskdrive, go with the high end numbers, if you don't go for the normal or midrange numbers. (That means, 8GB of ram if you are good to upgrade, or 4 if you buy everything new)

This desktop will be able to last you for ages, and would cost a small fortune to get in laptop format.

No i dont have anything am afraid,i am actually using a dell inspiron 1720,have no idea how to build a computer but i am a motor technician and have experience with motor veichle electrics,i dont know if that will help though

[Seanzie88]

Ok so what does everyone think of the intel core 2 duo e8600?And what sort of case should i go for,is their anything specific to look out for when buying cases,i was looking at antec cases.

[Matshelge]

intel core 2 duo e8600 is a fine chip, it was the top of the line one before the i5 came along, so not much diffrence in power between the two. If you find a good deal on it, its a winner.



As for casing, meh, any case will do. A good idea is to spend perhaps 20-30 dollars more then minimum on a case, as it will offer more room for exstra fans, if it turns out that you PC starts to have problems in warm summer weather. (My girlfriend got a cheap case, and it was a pain to get 2 exstra fans in there this summer) Another beware point might be to check where the fanports are, and see how they match up with where you are going to place the PC. You want atleast 1 major outlet, if not two to be facing away from a wall, so there is no heat buildup. Oh, and if it comes pre-packed with a powersupply, make sure it has a nice powersupply, 600w should be more then fine.



Same things goes for motherboard, did not bring that up to being with, but any motherboard will do, just make sure to check that the processor and RAM are both supported by the motherboard you are picking.



As for building it yourself, if you can handle a moter, building a pc is not a problem at all. Stuff cannot be put in the wrong places due to size and shape, everything is colorcoded, manuals are short and easy. You should be able to do it with ease.

[Seanzie88]

Thanks i really appreciate the help,i have googled it and seems that the nvidea gtx 260(think this is its name) seems to be a good graphics card but i have no idea,seems like the motherboard should be left until last as it must be compatible with all the components,also would 2gb of ram be enough,the case i was looking at has 5 fans(top,rear,front,side and internal) and comes with a filter and fan speed controller,it has 12 expansion bays and7 expansion slots.Here are the specs

General

Form Factor Tower

Max Mainboard Size ATX

Supported Mainboards ATX, microATX, Mini-ATX

Front Accessible Bays Qty 12

Width 21.3 cm

Depth 51.3 cm

Height 58.2 cm

Weight 14.5 kg

Fans Top : 1 x 20 cm - ( 1 installed)

Rear : 2 x 12 cm - ( 2 installed)

Front : 3 x 12 cm - ( 3 installed)

Side : 1 x 12 cm - ( 0 installed)

Internal : 1 x 12 cm - ( 0 installed)

System Cabinet Features Air filter, fan speed controller, blue LED

Localisation North America

Expansion / Connectivity

Expansion Bays Total (Free) 12 ( 12 ) x front accessible - 5.25" x 1/2H

Expansion Slots Total (Free) 7 Expansion Slot

Interfaces 2 x Hi-Speed USB - 4 PIN USB Type A

1 x storage - eSATA - 7 pin external Serial ATA

1 x headphones - output - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm

1 x microphone - input - mini-phone 3.5mm

Miscellaneous

Compliant Standards RoHS

Power

Power Device No power supply

Max Supported Qty 1

Manufacturer Warranty

Service & Support 3 years warranty

Service & Support Details Limited warranty - 3 years

[Matshelge]

The video card is a good one, case looks fine, 2 gb, works... but 4 would be better. RAM is cheep nowadays, and it will greatly boost performance to have 4GB rather then 2GB. (2GB is min req for Windows 7 and Vista, and most games nowadays recomend 3GB of RAM)