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[Lunneth]

I'm completely devastated by waiting a long time dragon age inquisition, sincerely ... this is not drama. Dragon age 2 was a game that did not explain almost nothing about "the warden" this character had immense significance for all players (perhaps large as Shepard), we expected to review it again ... maybe have your support or have a friendship.

The game was delayed for one year and we support (I supported) ... that was unexpected for me, a letter or two little words morrigan say about him ... all I can say is very weak, expected more for all this time waiting...

Worse is in the future we will need to spend more money for a DLC that adds the possibility... that I think CRUCIAL BE CONTAINED IN THIS GAME.


After Dragon age 2, the end of Mass Effect 3 and Dragon age inquisition now ... I will consider buying bioware games more carefully.

Sorry guys, but i'm truly sad =\

[Nyaore]

It's understandable to be sad, but you also need to consider that while the Warden might be important for you personally that isn't the case for everyone. I like the fact they're trying to find a balancing act between the people who felt their Warden's story was finished, the people whose Warden's died, and the ones who feel nothing is over. That's the issue, however, with silent protagonists like the Warden though. No matter what they do, not everyone is going to be happy. 

[Kinsz]

Not to kick you while you are down , but geez they have said the warden wouldnt be in the game from the get go why exactly did you expect him to be? 

[Yuoaman]

Are you the person that started like eight other threads with this exact same message? You sound exactly like them.

[Lunneth]

I think the warden could contribute more to help the inquisitor ... think about it ... not all wardens were called, proof of this Blackwall ... which means that the hero of ferelden could help the inquisitor, moreover morrigan (in my case) is his wife ... and is fully involved in this situation ... it could help, we need know what limitation led to Bioware not consider it.

(sorry my english) ^^

[Lady Mutare]

Because they changed the Wardens ending in DA2 when they just said "they disappeared"

[Nyaore]

I think the warden could contribute more to help the inquisitor ... think about it ... not all wardens were called, proof of this Blackwall ... which means that the hero of ferelden could help the inquisitor, moreover morrigan (in my case) is his wife ... and is fully involved in this situation ... it could help, we need know what limitation led to Bioware not consider it.

(sorry my english) ^^

Your English is fine.

 

As for Blackwall... Umm... Would you like me to spoil that? I know some people don't want huge spoilers but what you learn later debunks that...   As does what Leliana told my character what the Warden is doing right now, though I think that might have only been because they had a romance. The Warden is off trying to find a way to stop the Calling, and traveling in lands far to the west.

[SomeUsername]

Your English is fine.

 

As for Blackwall... Umm... Would you like me to spoil that? I know some people don't want huge spoilers but what you learn later debunks that...   As does what Leliana told my character what the Warden is doing right now, though I think that might have only been because they had a romance. The Warden is off trying to find a way to stop the Calling, and traveling in lands far to the west.

Which I think is a very good excuse for the Warden to not be in the game if he is alive.

[Lunneth]

I'm sorry, but I thought it was implied ... was told from the beginning that Blackwall are a grey warden in all the teaser videos ... and different from the warden he is not elsewhere, is an ally of the Inquisition ... i really sorry = \

[Taleroth]

Why do you want the Warden to die?

That is the only ending this insistence will allow.

[Nyaore]

I'm sorry, but I thought it was implied ... was told from the beginning that Blackwall was a guardian in all the videos ... and different from the warden he is not elsewhere, is an ally of the Inquisition ... i really sorry = \

No need to apologize at all! With the Blackwall thing it honestly smacked me hard when I found out about it. I'll post a spoiler below in case you want to read it, otherwise absolutely no pressure.

 

Spoiler

Blackwall isn't Blackwall at all, but a man who assumed the dead Warden's name after his benefactor died while askined Rainier - Blackwall's real name - to gather darkspawn blood for the joining he wanted him to partake in. Rainier is... A piece of work, but a good man deep down. Once you get far enough you'll trigger his quest and see the whole thing play out for yourself. However that is why he does not hear the Calling, he never went through the Joining. As soon as his benefactor died he assumed, because they were alone, that the Wardens would believe him the culprit and never went onto the meeting point the original Blackwall assigned. Instead he shed his previous life and took on the name of Blackwall, because he didn't want a good man to truly die from the world. So he is trying to live up to his benefactor's memory.

[KaiserShep]

I heard my Warden say "Greetings" when I entered Haven. She's there somewhere, watching my Inquisitor from the shadows.

[AdamJames]

... did not explain almost nothing about "the warden" this character had immense significance for all players...

 

They didn't have any particular significance to me, so this is simply false. And that's the thing, the player character from DA:O wasn't even really a character. They were more a voiceless avatar for the player, a throwback to the player character of old-school RPGs. Thankfully these days we've more interesting ways of portraying main characters. The reason Bioware can bring a character like Hawke forward is the same reason they can't bring the Warden into Inquisition. Hawke is a real, complete person within the game world. They have a voice, they have a name, and they have a personality. "The Warden" has none of that. They don't really even have a name that NPCs could universally use to refer to them in all their different possible incarnations, making dialogue with them next to impossible. They only way it was possible for them to exist was as a player character. But their time is over. Dragon Age has moved on to bigger and better things. You'll be a lot happier if you do too.

[Lunneth]

I dont know that haha ... but, is not a problem, cause i like feel the story playing.

in fact ... the warden could appears in inquisition ... but, i dont know why Bioware decide different.

i feel bioware kill the warden in awakening ... people can talk about him, but never can see he again. T_T
 

[Lunneth]

They didn't have any particular significance to me, so this is simply false. And that's the thing, the player character from DA:O wasn't even really a character. They were more a voiceless avatar for the player, a throwback to the player character of old-school RPGs. Thankfully these days we've more interesting ways of portraying main characters. The reason Bioware can bring a character like Hawke forward is the same reason they can't bring the Warden into Inquisition. Hawke is a real, complete person within the game world. They have a voice, they have a name, and they have a personality. "The Warden" has none of that. They don't really even have a name that NPCs could universally use to refer to them in all their different possible incarnations, making dialogue with them next to impossible. They only way it was possible for them to exist was as a player character. But their time is over. Dragon Age has moved on to bigger and better things. You'll be a lot happier if you do too.

That's irrelevant ... as Hawke, Mahariel has a last name ... in Origins Warden had a voice was possible to choose like inquisition, I think any voice to  the warden would be welcome.

[EdwinLi]

I'm happy with the result when my Warden is alive...

 

 

Spoiler

after all he is looking for a cure to the Calling and has gain some ground to finding it. Since he romanced Morrigan he also gain more information such as how Fiona mysteriously became not only cured of the blight but she also developed some kind of resistance to the taint which prevents her from becoming a Warden again (which also resulted in her being the 1st Warden to be offically kicked out of the Wardens) along with other leads. Hopefully this may lead to a possible DLC storyline.

[Huyna]

While Warden (or, should i say "Wardens"?)  was my favorite protagonists among the entire series. Never understood the endless complaining of certain people regarding "silent protagonist". So what? At least we had normal dialogue options, instead of voiced protagonist and Dialogue Wheel Of Horror similiar to Mass Effect.   But i do understand, that Bioware has limited resources and simply can not afford develop every possible outcome in DA:O and DA:A to the maximum extent. I, personally, would love to see "my" Warden (if they allow us to calibrate his/her appearance, same we did with Hawk in Inquisition), maybe talk to him/her a little. And, maybe, i/you/we will - if Inquisition is a commercial success and EA will greenlight DA number 4 (hopefully, it will be a single-player game, not some online ... eh... "product").

As for dialogue with Morrigan (if Warden was her beloved and they a had child, for example)... well actually, it's rather hopefull. 

Spoiler

Warden is fine. He is looking for a way to stop Calling. Their child is fine (and will be fine, despite what will happen in Inquisition) - and seems like he is growing to be a decent man.

I sense a good potential for some story plots in next DA game.

Hopeully, we will see it in a few years.  

[Lunneth]

While Warden (or, should i say "Wardens"?)  was my favorite protagonists among the entire series, Bioware has limited resources and simply can not afford develop every possible outcome in DA:O and DA:A to the maximum extent. I, personally, would love to see "my" Warden (allow us to calibrate his appearance, same we did with Hawk), maybe talk to him/her a little. And, maybe, i/you/we will - if Inquisition is a commercial success and EA will greenlight DA number 4 (hopefully, it will be a single-player game, not some online ... eh... "product").

As for dialogue with Morrigan (if Warden was her beloved and they a had child, for example)... well actually, it's rather hopefull. 

Spoiler

Warden is fine. He is looking for a way to stop Calling. Their child is fine (and will be fine, despite what will happen in Inquisition) - and seems like he is growing to be a decent man.

I sense a good potential for some story plots in next DA game.

Hopeully, we will see it in a few years.  

 

 

thinking that way ... it's inspiring!
but ... see him independent, like hawke ... think for a minute ... when I saw hawke I got up and screamed ... if I saw Mahariel ... probably, I would die.

[SwobyJ]

I accept it.

 

Though I would like a proper Warden ending in a substantial DLC or DA4. Visually, there should be a way to recreate the look now, and vocally it shouldn't be that huge of a deal since we barely cared about our combat voice anyway (make a rather 'one size fits all' voice or have it have to do with the plot somehow).

 

Hawke I'm not sure about (whether he's done with or not...), and yes I've seen the spoilers. Thankfully Hawke was done much better than Revan in SWTOR, so I have hopes for Warden.

 

But I didn't need it in DAI. What Bioware does in DAI is frankly pretty huge and I understand them putting some limits on themselves. I just hope that quality expansion content is on its way and we don't have to wait until 2016-2018 for a lot of story to move forward.

[Chuvvy]

I was satisfied with what was mentioned. Beyond it being odd that he wasn't involved in the inquisition given Leliana, Morrigan, and Alistair (if you make him a warden). It was just nice to final hear what he was doing.

 

Also Morrigan talks about him a lot if you've romanced her and went through the mirror. Alistair talks about her quite a lot if he's a warden. I've heard Leliana barely mentions him.

[Lunneth]

I accept it.

 

Though I would like a proper Warden ending in a substantial DLC or DA4. Visually, there should be a way to recreate the look now, and vocally it shouldn't be that huge of a deal since we barely cared about our combat voice anyway (make a rather 'one size fits all' voice or have it have to do with the plot somehow).

 

Hawke I'm not sure about (whether he's done with or not...), and yes I've seen the spoilers. Thankfully Hawke was done much better than Revan in SWTOR, so I have hopes for Warden.

 

But I didn't need it in DAI. What Bioware does in DAI is frankly pretty huge and I understand them putting some limits on themselves. I just hope that quality expansion content is on its way and we don't have to wait until 2016-2018 for a lot of story to move forward.

I agree with you


but many of us thought about dragon age inquisition and now we see that was not what happened (I will not even talk about Mass Effect) ... if I could choose, just for your idea you would the new Dragon age script acts haha ... I just do not understand how normal people like us can have such idea and Bioware not?

[Fishy]

I am happy that the Warden is not the in game at all. By the end of Awakening my Warden was a god. He probably could one shot every high dragon of Thedas. Giving him a cheap cameo just because is a big no for me. 

 

What would be cool is having a shot at the Warden in the far distance with five  high  dragon corpse at his feet. Or maybe even controlling him myself in a future expansion/dlc. Starting him has a level 25 up to 35 etc. He does not even need a voice over. I would play/purchase that.

 

But just has a cameo ? No. The Warden deserve better than being a cheap cameo.

[Father_Jerusalem]

The Warden's story was in Dragon Age: Origins.

 

Hawke's story was in Dragon Age 2.

 

The Inquisitor's story is in Dragon Age: Inquisition.

Steve's story is in Dragon Age 4.

 

That One Guy Who Did That Thing That Time's story is in Dragon Age 5.

 

This isn't Mass Effect where the story is about one person. This is Dragon Age where the story is about the world at large. If you miss your warden that much, go back and replay Origins.

[Lunneth]

I am happy that the Warden is not the in game at all. By the end of Awakening my Warden was a god. He probably could one shot every high dragon of Thedas. Giving him a cheap cameo just because is a big no for me. 

 

What would be cool is having a shot at the Warden in the far distance with five  high  dragon corpse at his feet. Or maybe even controlling him myself in a future expansion/dlc. Starting him has a level 25 up to 35 etc. He does not even need a voice over. I would play/purchase that.

 

But just has a cameo ? No. The Warden deserve better than being a cheap cameo.

See Hero of Ferelden again is perfect ... but play as him one last battle is LEGENDARY! (in facts i dont have words for this hahaha)