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#51
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I honestly do not believe that the Warden-Commander ignore a danger as the battle of the inquisitor to find a cure and prolong your life ... that would be selfishness, I do not believe he would do that.

 

The initial Breach is dealt with. Cory is not a distinct threat for a while.

 

There's all sorts of dangers in the world. The Calling is one of them. The Warden is pursuing it. This is primarily for the Warden order to survive, not the Warden himself.



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See Hero of Ferelden again is perfect ... but play as him one last battle is LEGENDARY! (in facts i dont have words for this hahaha)


I'm sorry, this is something I don't understand: you had your chanche to go down in a blaze of glory, back in Origin, and you can't complain now if you didn't take it. My Warden died, back there, and so far I'm pretty satisfied from the way other characters remember her. I'll try importing my "living paragon" save in the next playthrough and I'll see if I'll be dissatisfied as you guys but seriously, the only reason I saw for making the dark ritual at the end of Origin was a selfish/individualistic one: I want to survive because I want to run off with my LI, I want to survive because I want to go back to Orzammar, I want to survive because deep down I don't give a damn. So why should I make myself involved in this other crisis? There'll always be a crisis of some sort.
Maybe I'm wrong. I would like to go through every possible ending where the warden survived and see if it really would make sense to see him/her again. What was your ending and why did you choose to survive? We should probably start from there.
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First anyone shutting someone down for simply having an opinion, is as usual, banging their head against a wall.

 

Now to the topic. It was an odd choice not to include the warden at all as he/she was popular and still is a popular character. I understand the difficulties with the voice, but that is not unworkable. I am sure you creative types can find many ways to include him/her without the voice, or rather without his/her natural voice. Anything from cutscenes where he/she leads a charge to something or someone silently aiding you in the background and you being only aware at certain times, to an actual storyline change in his/her voice or a muting of him through some nasty fate.

 

I for one would buy a DLC that included the warden. You could even end on hawke the inquisitor and your warden sharing a quiet drink :), with love interest for the warden in toe if it makes sense.

Sometimes subtle is as good as loud.


 



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I'm sorry, this is something I don't understand: you had your chanche to go down in a blaze of glory, back in Origin, and you can't complain now if you didn't take it. My Warden died, back there, and so far I'm pretty satisfied from the way other characters remember her. I'll try importing my "living paragon" save in the next playthrough and I'll see if I'll be dissatisfied as you guys but seriously, the only reason I saw for making the dark ritual at the end of Origin was a selfish/individualistic one: I want to survive because I want to run off with my LI, I want to survive because I want to go back to Orzammar, I want to survive because deep down I don't give a damn. So why should I make myself involved in this other crisis? There'll always be a crisis of some sort.
Maybe I'm wrong. I would like to go through every possible ending where the warden survived and see if it really would make sense to see him/her again. What was your ending and why did you choose to survive? We should probably start from there.

 

 
I could refuse the dark ritual and still survive doing Loghain kill Archdeamon and make alistair king of ferelden ... you did a heroic act, but Loghain deserved pay for their mistakes making a sacrifice for ferelden, after he created ... now he fix. My Dalish was convicted of helping his brother on a patrol, to me he did not deserve to die.


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I agree :( I very much miss my warden, as much as i enjoy my inquisitor warden was my first character in DA universe and i put the most time into him. I honestly dont see a reason why he could not be the inquisitor as well, i would gladly sacrifice some side quests in favor of connecting him to that story. I knew that is not gonna happen but honestly he at least deserved more, the calling quest is not really that interesting and it doest not make much sense :( I just feel like our warden deserve better. I know others may disagree but i still love my warden most of all the characters in DA universe (maybe except Morrigan :D) and would love to see more of him. In general i feel like the wardens got the short end of the stick in this game, it makes sense for the most part, but they seem a bit more like morons than neccessary. 

Maybe we will get a DLC, i root for DLC with The Warden with all my 10 fingers. Please bioware more love for Warden :) an entire game if possible


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I agree :( I very much miss my warden, as much as i enjoy my inquisitor warden was my first character in DA universe and i put the most time into him. I honestly dont see a reason why he could not be the inquisitor as well, i would gladly sacrifice some side quests in favor of connecting him to that story. I knew that is not gonna happen but honestly he at least deserved more, the calling quest is not really that interesting and it doest not make much sense :( I just feel like our warden deserve better. I know others may disagree but i still love my warden most of all the characters in DA universe (maybe except Morrigan :D) and would love to see more of him. In general i feel like the wardens got the short end of the stick in this game, it makes sense for the most part, but they seem a bit more like morons than neccessary. 

Maybe we will get a DLC, i root for DLC with The Warden with all my 10 fingers. Please bioware more love for Warden :) an entire game if possible

T_T i think this translate my feelings ...



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The way BIoware is treating the Zevran romance, it's a good thing my warden died tbh..



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The way BIoware is treating the Zevran romance, it's a good thing my warden died tbh..

I heard it's the same with Leliana almost. Zevran may not be present to mention the Warden, but Leliana just simply decides not to mention them. If I ever do a non-Morrigan playthrough of Origins i'm definitely going to make it my sacrifice playthrough.



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I was very disappointed in the Warden's treatment tbh. Would have been better to leave him out entirely... No chance my Warden would ignore his duty and leave anyone else to deal with a mega-darkspawn God thing!
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It's understandable to be sad, but you also need to consider that while the Warden might be important for you personally that isn't the case for everyone

Not important for everyone? Bah my Warden is Prince-Consort of Ferelden, Teyrn of Gwaren, Arl of Amaranthine, Warden-Commander of Ferelden and brother and heir to the Teyrn of Highever. He's the most important man in Ferelden what more must he do? lol

Tbh I would be completely content if I was just told that he is still Prince-Consort and on the throne with his wife Anora, being an awesome ruler and ****.
Then in 20 years after much awesome he can go on his calling.



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The Warden's story was in Dragon Age: Origins.

 

Hawke's story was in Dragon Age 2.

 

The Inquisitor's story is in Dragon Age: Inquisition.

Steve's story is in Dragon Age 4.

 

That One Guy Who Did That Thing That Time's story is in Dragon Age 5.

 

This isn't Mass Effect where the story is about one person. This is Dragon Age where the story is about the world at large. If you miss your warden that much, go back and replay Origins.

um If you are going by lore, then this game DA:I he would have been an asset. He is the Hero of Ferelden and Heroes always defend his country. Sounds to me you are just trolling. 



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I honestly would have wished the Warden (or the Orleasian Warden, if yours did the US) simply became a villain in DA:I. Mind-controlled by Cory to serve as a powerful enforcer on the field and using their connections and influence in Ferelden to help secretly plant anti-inquisition activities and agendas in the country. They would harass your efforts throughout the main plot, showing up to make things difficult and messing with your plans. You'll eventually defeat them as a mini-boss before facing off Cory in the final level, where upon they snap back to their senses and pull some last minute heroic sacrifice to help bring down Cory or the dragon.

 

Sorta like Kai Leng from ME3, but less **** and for DA:O veterans, a more meaningful rival perhaps.

 

And yes, it would mean that Bioware would have to give the Warden a voice and a new face. But they have already shown their willing to stop the game in order to give players a chance to customize Hawke, so I see no reason why we couldn't have a third character creator where we also choose one of two VAs (per gender) for the Warden.

 

But maybe this is all too unrealistic to have hoped for.



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Hmm, as much as I loved my various Wardens I don't want any of them to reappear in a future game at all. In fact I don't even want to know too much about their fate as well.

 

And I don't see much of a connection to Shepard and the Warden. Simply because Shepard, despite Renegade/Paragon + Backgrounds, was a very much defined character already, like Hawke. While the Warden is ... all kinds of people. Which makes it so understandable Bioware did not touch him/her in DAI at all.

 

For this, I thank Bioware very, very much! :)  The Warden(s) are my own. And I am glad so far she isn't in danger of getting offed like Shepard in some immensily idiotic unclimactic way



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The Warden is off doing something else that's important to him/her and the order. This is explained, and BioWare outright stated that they wouldn't physically appear. The Warden is as much BioWare's character as it is the player's. If BioWare want to take the Warden down a path that means they won't be interacting with future protagonists, so be it.



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Hero of Ferelden as NPC:

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Protagonist of a DLC:

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Also we learned that the Warden is looking for a cure to calling, that's better than he is lost.



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The way BIoware is treating the Zevran romance, it's a good thing my warden died tbh..

In fact, I think it's one of the romance that is the best treated. Morrigan and Leliana are separated from their Warden, and have been for years. Alistair might dies if he's still Warden, I don't know what he says if he's married or have the Warden as a concubine. Zevran still is with the Warden, they just go sometimes on different missions (like in DA2), but they are still together, like the letter my Warden sent said. So no, I really don't complain and am very happy to have chosen Zevran.



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Would pay for a DLC for my warden since I have made him God like with legendary equipment and runes.

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I don't need to know about the Warden. Mine is dead.



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Personally, I do not think that we will ever see the Warden ever in DA games. He/She will only be presented through codex or dialogues. It is understandable as well because there is just too many possibilities and Bioware will not want to risk bringing him/her back and enraged fans when they got the slightest things wrong.



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I honestly would have wished the Warden (or the Orleasian Warden, if yours did the US) simply became a villain in DA:I. Mind-controlled by Cory to serve as a powerful enforcer on the field and using their connections and influence in Ferelden to help secretly plant anti-inquisition activities and agendas in the country. They would harass your efforts throughout the main plot, showing up to make things difficult and messing with your plans. You'll eventually defeat them as a mini-boss before facing off Cory in the final level, where upon they snap back to their senses and pull some last minute heroic sacrifice to help bring down Cory or the dragon.

 

Sorta like Kai Leng from ME3, but less **** and for DA:O veterans, a more meaningful rival perhaps.

 

And yes, it would mean that Bioware would have to give the Warden a voice and a new face. But they have already shown their willing to stop the game in order to give players a chance to customize Hawke, so I see no reason why we couldn't have a third character creator where we also choose one of two VAs (per gender) for the Warden.

 

But maybe this is all too unrealistic to have hoped for.

 

Maybe I'm mistaken, and someone correct me if I am, but isn't the Warden not taken by Corypheus for the same reason that Blackwall isn't?



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Hrm, I think you don't know everything of Blackwall yet. 

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I think they almost made him came back as there was a screenshot of him and hawk in the fade, you know the part where we have to chose who dies so the others escape. Must have decided to removed him when they notice most gamers would just kill hawk off.

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So, if you bring back the Warden ... what do you say to people who have dead Wardens? Lol, magic? They're going to be as annoyed as the people who killed Lelianna or other NPCs who suddenly saw them come back to life.

 

Bringing the Warden back is problematic for that reason alone - you could choose to either live or die. If they bring the Warden back, they have to graphically ignore one camp. Letting the Warden be a mystery leaves it open to at least give both sides the chance to remain satisfied.



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It's only appropriate ... it's a different era and a different genre for dragon age ... the hero of ferelden eclipsed just as the original dragon age 

I believe the reason not to include the warden wasn't something arbitrary ... they want to cut off any ties to DA:O so fans of the original and old schoolers stop asking for something similar and they let them develop their mmo in peace with a different player base ... this is electronic arts at it's finest which is so ironic cause most of their games are streamlined cash makers with no actual art involved 



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So, if you bring back the Warden ... what do you say to people who have dead Wardens? Lol, magic? They're going to be as annoyed as the people who killed Lelianna or other NPCs who suddenly saw them come back to life.
 
Bringing the Warden back is problematic for that reason alone - you could choose to either live or die. If they bring the Warden back, they have to graphically ignore one camp. Letting the Warden be a mystery leaves it open to at least give both sides the chance to remain satisfied.


Didn't a Orlesian warden commander shows up in dragon age awaking if the warden dies in DA:O, most likely this would be their warden if they kill off their origin one.