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Seriously, why is this even still being talked about?

 

Because it's hilarious how people rush to defend that which they deem politically correct because it's easier than holding an opinion. But whatever, the road to hell has always been paved with good intentions.



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Because it's hilarious how people rush to defend that which they deem politically correct because it's easier than holding an opinion. But whatever, the road to hell has always been paved with good intentions.

I'm not sure you and I are reading the same thread. I don't see a whole lot of social justice or politically correct posts here. What I see is an asinine topic about adjusting optional parts of a fictional story to reflect real world percentages of straight-to-not-straight ratios, and people duly replying, "Wtf?"

 

But avoiding the meat of my post to stay firmly secured atop your high horse is a solid plan of attack.


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Third: Straight male characters get the same number of choices as either gay gender

 

No they don´t actually. That "josie" is a asexual character, and according to devs, a disney one at that. It ends with hand holding. So straight male gamers have actually only one LI, with a romance ark like in the previous games.



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No they don´t actually. That "josie" is a asexual character, and according to devs, a disney one. It ends with hand holding. So straight male gamers have actually only one LI, with a romance ark like in the previous games.

 

Is Josie asexual?  Or does she just not have sex during the events of the game?  There's a lot more to asexuality than just holding out on having sex.

 

Also, what do you mean, "according to the devs, a disney one"?  Did the devs call her "disney"?


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I think it's hilarious, honestly. I mean catering to less than 1% of the population like this because it's politically correct. But whatever, I hope that slim minority enjoys their content.

Seriously?  You think straight male gamers make up 99% of DAI?

 

That's just dumb.



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Is Josie asexual?  Or does she just not have sex during the events of the game?  There's a lot more to asexuality than just holding out on having sex.

 

Also, what do you mean, "according to the devs, a disney one"?  Did the devs call her "disney"?

 

I´m sure there is, but I have been adressed with the idea that asexuals don´t have sex. So that´s why I used it. Like I said in another thread, I want my mature game with enough maturity between the sheets, along with the dark story, torturing and gore combat. I don´t want to head rp that. And no, it does not mean "pixel p0rn", DA2 will do just nicely.

 

Yep, one of the guys involved in making her said just that. In a mature game. Apparently it means disney to have romantic features without actual sex, as if mature could not have romance included.



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No they don´t actually. That "josie" is a asexual character, and according to devs, a disney one at that. It ends with hand holding. So straight male gamers have actually only one LI, with a romance ark like in the previous games.

 

So because she doesn't have a sex scene she's an asexual character?  :huh:


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No they don´t actually. That "josie" is a asexual character, and according to devs, a disney one at that. It ends with hand holding. So straight male gamers have actually only one LI, with a romance ark like in the previous games.

So wait, because you don't see clothes off, no sex takes place?

 

Wat?  :huh:



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Because it doesn´t, the game doesn´t even imply for it.



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Because it doesn´t, the game doesn´t even imply for it.

 

It's ambiguous, your suppose to do it yourself 



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Look at my post five ones up. If I disperse gruesome deaths and bathe in blood in dark gritty story I want my romances to actual happen, not head rp them. 



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i had no idea this was the case. im still a bit confused as it seems like the heart thingy pops up with everyfrickinone. i know from a thread i posted in the spoiler section who one of them is, but i dont know the other. actually i see above people are already saying its josephine, so is the other vivienne? the only chick in the game who doesnt really scream...yknow. 



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Yep, one of the guys involved in making her said just that. In a mature game. Apparently it means disney to have romantic features without actual sex, as if mature could not have romance included.


Anyone else have the impression that there might have been just a little irony in that dev's post?

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I find it odd in a game that has blood, gore, violence and dark themes....I am forced to RP and imagine about sexual intercourse...

 

What the f*** ? Are people seriously telling me that it is okay for us to have violent things, disgusting things and dark things but when it comes to sexual things...Lol nope...It has to be implied...

 

Why is there no implied blood ? No implied red templars ? No implied deaths ?

 

Yet we have implied sex.

 

Bullshite. If there is no sexual intercourse taking, then there is no sex. Screw this implied nonsense. As far as I am concerned, the Inquisitor did not have sex with Josephine and Solas.

 

Solas I can understand why. He is...not exactly a normal elf..if you know what I mean. Josephine is just a flat-out Disney princess trope copypasted into a game with mature and adult content.

 

I personally am of the opinions that straight males only have ONE romance option which is Cassandra. Josephine does not count as a romance option, she is a friendzone option. 

 

I swear this whole implied sex thing must be because of the hypocritically prudish mentality of North Americans. 

 

CDPR is European and they do sex just fine in their games without any implied nonsense. 

 

If this is the case, then can the North Americans..to be specific Canadians..get rid of their weird sexual prudishness mentality ? Not everyone shares it. 


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I´m sure there is, but I have been adressed with the idea that asexuals don´t have sex. So that´s why I used it. Like I said in another thread, I want my mature game with enough maturity between the sheets, along with the dark story, torturing and gore combat. I don´t want to head rp that. And no, it does not mean "pixel p0rn", DA2 will do just nicely.

 

Yep, one of the guys involved in making her said just that. In a mature game. Apparently it means disney to have romantic features without actual sex, as if mature could not have romance included.

 

Yep, the amount of mental gymnastics being used to justify the whole thing with Josephine is astounding. White Knights are out in full force to defend their Disney Princess I suppose. 

 

To be clear, she is a good character. She is just a terrible romance option. 

 

In a relationship, in an romantic relationship between two consensual adults, there is usually sexual intercourse involved. The only exceptions are if you are living in some stone age, religious fundamentalist environment. Josephine is in theory liberal since she can "romance" any Inquisitor but all she ever gives is some pecks on the face and a hand holding...So much for being liberal and open minded...


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http://geekfeminism....ght-male-gamer/
 
That's why, straight from Bioware's mouth.

But Gaider doesn't actually make an argument. He just says "the majority shouldn't be catered to." Why?

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http://geekfeminism....ght-male-gamer/

 

That's why, straight from Bioware's mouth.

 

So basically Bioware developers are on some self deluded social justice crusade on their largest share of customers ?

 

I don't know about people here but the last time I checked, no straight male gamers who buy Bioware are actively going and oppressing women. Haven't heard of anyone here engaged in activities like beating women or denying them education or blowing up schools or passing fatwas that limit their freedoms....You know, actual female oppression that most of the politically correct West are blind to...

 

The last time I checked, straight males who buy Bioware games buy them to both have fun and to fantasize. That is what gaming is about, yes ? Fun and fantasy. Yet here we have a group telling people who want to have fun and fantasy to shove it because they have penises and like the opposite sex.

 

Go figure. 

 

I thought Bioware was a game developer that makes games, not a self appointed group of deluded holy warriors who want to engage in thought control. I suppose they must be branching out. Talk about multi-tasking. 



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@ORTesc Thank you for completing ignoring the fact that your ridiculous argument works both ways. Some developers keep the non-straight romances out to keep straight people happy. And the irony quite strong in you apparently. The arrogance too, apparently.

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@Ishten So acknowledging a group of people other than white straight males exist is social justice?

Go figure.

Please, tell us how much Bioware are shoving choices, yes, CHOICES, that you don't have to make down your throat....

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@Ishten So, not being an ******* is politically correct?

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I find it odd in a game that has blood, gore, violence and dark themes....I am forced to RP and imagine about sexual intercourse...

 

What the f*** ? Are people seriously telling me that it is okay for us to have violent things, disgusting things and dark things but when it comes to sexual things...Lol nope...It has to be implied...

 

Violence is normal, the human body/sexuality is not. Go figure.


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So basically Bioware developers are on some self deluded social justice crusade on their largest share of customers ?

 

I don't know about people here but the last time I checked, no straight male gamers who buy Bioware are actively going and oppressing women. Haven't heard of anyone here engaged in activities like beating women or denying them education or blowing up schools or passing fatwas that limit their freedoms....You know, actual female oppression that most of the politically correct West are blind to...

 

The last time I checked, straight males who buy Bioware games buy them to both have fun and to fantasize. That is what gaming is about, yes ? Fun and fantasy. Yet here we have a group telling people who want to have fun and fantasy to shove it because they have penises and like the opposite sex.

 

Go figure. 

 

I thought Bioware was a game developer that makes games, not a self appointed group of deluded holy warriors who want to engage in thought control. I suppose they must be branching out. Talk about multi-tasking. 

 

To be fair, the (borderline bigoted) article itself is not from BioWare, just the quotes.  I mean, you have to take any url with "feminism" in it with a grain of salt these days, sadly.


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This is supposed to be the NO Spoilers section of Scuttlebutt. I'm officially asking for this entire topic to be moved over to the Spoiler section where it belongs.


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So basically Bioware developers are on some self deluded social justice crusade on their largest share of customers ?

 

I don't know about people here but the last time I checked, no straight male gamers who buy Bioware are actively going and oppressing women. Haven't heard of anyone here engaged in activities like beating women or denying them education or blowing up schools or passing fatwas that limit their freedoms....You know, actual female oppression that most of the politically correct West are blind to...

 

The last time I checked, straight males who buy Bioware games buy them to both have fun and to fantasize. That is what gaming is about, yes ? Fun and fantasy. Yet here we have a group telling people who want to have fun and fantasy to shove it because they have penises and like the opposite sex.

 

Go figure. 

 

I thought Bioware was a game developer that makes games, not a self appointed group of deluded holy warriors who want to engage in thought control. I suppose they must be branching out. Talk about multi-tasking. 

 

Did yo actually read Gaider's quotes? Because you seem to be arguing against things he didn't even say.



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Apparently this is our new "progressive" world. Family is bad. Being straight is bad. All men are bad. Being white is bad. And of course nobody seems to question the act of preaching tolerance through the intolerance of any opinion other than that which is deemed tolerant. This post will be ignored/censored because the majority, while understanding such hypocrisy exists, would rather go along with their hive-like mentality than actually speak their mind and form a rational opinion - others are too simple to even understand the garbage they support.

 

As I said, the road to hell has always been paved through good intentions.


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