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[Nightdragon8]

as i said the Dark ritual is usless because in fact the player cannot see the warden anymore, unlike Hawke, Loghain or Alistair he is no more than a ghost, i mean dead or alive there is no difference he/she is usless. And the developers forced the DAO ending because of the Ultimate sacrifice possibility, if a character is not present ingame to me is like Dumat,or whatever believe the Theodosian have, a shadow.

You dont like the story, just say so and move on. Trying to convice people of soemthing on the internet honestly you would get somewhere faster by pushing a mountain.

 

Edit:

mm i dont care about my warden i dont want to use the same overaged character. As i said  the Dark ritual is usless because is an illusion, the double effect of the ritual

1)save the warden life is usless in inquisition because the WARDEN IS A GHOST and to make a sense for his absence in facing a darkspawn like corypheus the calling is just an excuse.

2) Kieran lost all his power

so in the end the developers as i have predicted  choose to respect completly only the Ultimate sacrifice my most favorite ending.

To make things clear i belive that The purpose of this topic is to analyze the fact that many have realized that the DR is usless, while the US is the only respected ending. SO the tales of the OGB ends forever and i'm glad of it.

*clap* good now leave please

[Aren]

You keep spouting nonsense in this thread and none of your nonsense changes the reality of the dark ritual ending of DAO being the best one for everyone whether it is the warden or your warden companions in hindsight, your excuse of simply not caring about your companions or what has happened to your warden because of your twisted logic if one of them is not present in the game at a specific time then they are dead to you and worthless further exposes your stance for what it really is and that is just pure hate for Morrigan and nothing to do with what is best for the wardens, your companions, the protagonist, the child or the world. You keep digging yourself into a hole, one which you already cannot get out of so it is in your best interest that you should probably stop.

 

My warden is alive and off trying to save peoples lives finding a way to end the calling. This is important to him and every warden. You also can not be sure that will not at some stage appear in DLC or following game in the same way Hawke was brought back and allowed to redesign his appearance and select a personality trait (the keep also contains enough information to have dialogue reflect decisions just like Hawke's did). Secondly Morrigan does not have to kill the ancient elven leader in the temple at the well, in mine he lived and went off to help his people and experience the new world after giving us his blessing to use the well. Morrigan also was willing to sacrifice her life to save her child's in the family reunion during the fade out of motherly love as well as sacrifice her life for your cause in the final battle when fought the dragon if she drank from the well. That is not the actions of someone evil.

The best one for you many of us choose the ultimate sacrifice of a warden.

The warden where he/she is?  to save who?  Hawke is present and his/her tales end in DAI the Inquisitor is present as well as many others, but the warden is over.

you want to belive in an illusion of choice.

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the best one for you many of us choose the ultimate sacrifice.

Source? Many refuse the DR but not all of them chose the US and many choose the DR too.

[DarkSpiral]

Don't be absurd.  All choice in a scripted video game is illusion.  My friends have a saying: "The orcs are always in the forest."

 

Hell choice in a tabletop game is frequently an illusion, and that's all actual people with real-time reactions.  Last night, I was running a game where the secrutity system for an old, lost-to-the ages artificer workshop (this is a 3.5 D&D game in Eberron) would activate on the party's entry.  Battle, XP, phat lewt, and the quest objective would follow.

 

Well, they managed to get in without setting off the alarm.  Bugger eh?  I managed to twist events so that they set it off anyway.  Battle, XP, etc, etc, followed.  Choice was an illusion.

[DxWill103]

Guys.. I'm not sure if you've noticed this but, I'm quite certain this Aren individual is young, 10-12 ish judging by the posts.  Let him have his fun and his opinions.  They're.. mostly baseless and at times wildly random, but there's not much point in trying to express your opinions to a child.

 

To be fair, I agree with him to a small extent.  I feel as though having my warden sacrifice himself to end the blight was a classic, tried and true heroic ending, worthy of the likes of Beowulf.

 

My problem with really sticking with that ending is Bioware made such an interesting and alluring caveat to this route, with intricate story and character development that had that added benefit of allowing him to live, with what sounded like juicy possibilities for the future installments.  As much as I loved a classic hero's death story, that whole OGB bombshell option caught me off guard the first time around, and I had trouble saying no in most of my play-throughs xD

 

Anyway, yes I thoroughly enjoyed this cut scene in the fade.  I felt Morrigan's character development was genuine and authentic.  She mentions later how Flemeth was testing her, but she wasn't sure how.  Maybe she just wanted to see how far Morrigan had come, how worthy of a mother she was, and what she would give to protect him.

 

I got the feeling she passed the test.

[Aren]

Guys.. I'm not sure if you've noticed this but, I'm quite certain this Aren individual is young, 10-12 ish judging by the posts.  Let him have his fun and his opinions.  They're.. mostly baseless and at times wildly random, but there's not much point in trying to express your opinions to a child.

 

To be fair, I agree with him to a small extent.  I feel as though having my warden sacrifice himself to end the blight was a classic, tried and true heroic ending, worthy of the likes of Beowulf.

 

My problem with really sticking with that ending is Bioware made such an interesting and alluring caveat to this route, with intricate story and character development that had that added benefit of allowing him to live, with what sounded like juicy possibilities for the future installments.  As much as I loved a classic hero's death story, that whole OGB bombshell option caught me off guard the first time around, and I had trouble saying no in most of my play-throughs xD

 

Anyway, yes I thoroughly enjoyed this cut scene in the fade.  I felt Morrigan's character development was genuine and authentic.  She mentions later how Flemeth was testing her, but she wasn't sure how.  Maybe she just wanted to see how far Morrigan had come, how worthy of a mother she was, and what she would give to protect him.

 

I got the feeling she passed the test.

I'm quite certain this Aren individual is young, 10-12 ish judging by the posts.

 

oh my the psichic powers of yours, if i am 10-12 ish than i hope that you are at last 5-6 to make such a stupid judgment regarding myself.

Anyway  the point of the topic is why they cannot make this OGB such a huge thing, simply because he is optional and this is not the first time that i see someone disappointed for this in DAI.  They force the event of DAI into one direction to unite all the possiblee ending of Origins and this is why The US, The DR and the redeemer are an illusion now, in Awakening you can see the difference between the US and the DR in here you have just a little, little cameo for flemeth into the fade and some letters from the ghost warden.

[DarkSpiral]

I'm quite certain this Aren individual is young, 10-12 ish judging by the posts.

 

oh my the psichic powers of yours, if i am 10-12 ish than i hope that you are at last 5-6 to make such a stupid judgment regarding myself.

If the shoe fits. 

[blahblahblah]

I'm quite certain this Aren individual is young, 10-12 ish judging by the posts.

 

oh my the psichic powers of yours, if i am 10-12 ish than i hope that you are at last 5-6 to make such a stupid judgment regarding myself.

Anyway  the point of the topic is why they cannot make this OGB such a huge thing, simply because he is optional and this is not the first time that i see someone disappointed for this in DAI.  They force the event of DAI into one direction to unite all the possiblee ending of Origins and this is why The US, The DR and the redeemer are an illusion now, in Awakening you can see the difference between the US and the DR in here you have just a little, little cameo for flemeth into the fade and some letters from the ghost warden.

LOL. Stop this already, man. WE KNOW IT!!! Stop convincing us that your baseless assumptions are true.

[Aren]

i dont care to convincing anyone in DAI we see the ending of the OGB as well as the absence of the HoF this is a fact not an assumption.

you can accept it and move on or denied  and become blind to the Inquisition story.

[blahblahblah]

i dont care to convincing anyone in DAI we see the ending of the OGB as well as the absence of the HoF this is a fact not an assumption.

you can accept it and move on or denied  and become blind to the Inquisition story.

Your fascination to the US ending is superior makes you a broken record were you see your mere opinions as facts. IF you totally cling to the US ending then keep it yourself. WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME POINT OF VIEW.

[Aren]

Your fascination to the US ending is superior makes you a broken record were you see your mere opinions as facts. IF you totally cling to the US ending then keep it yourself. WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME POINT OF VIEW.

there is nothing to view the developers decide the route of the series.

The DR ending now is united to the US to make a unique finale in Inquisition wich involve the end of the side effects of the Ritual.

as i said you can accept it and move on or denied  and become blind to the Inquisition story.

[blahblahblah]

there is nothing to view the developers decide the route of the series.

The DR ending now is united to the US to make a unique finale in Inquisition wich involve the end of the side effects of the Ritual.

as i said you can accept it and move on or denied  and become blind to the Inquisition story.

The devs doesn't confirm anything and don't jump to conclusion that you know how the story ends. STOP TROLLING, THIS DISCUSSION WILL GO NOWHERE.

[Chrom72]

The trolling is strong in this thread. Sad, I was actually looking forward to legitimate discussion after just finishing the game. 

[Aren]

The devs doesn't confirm anything and don't jump to conclusion that you know how the story ends. STOP TROLLING, THIS DISCUSSION WILL GO NOWHERE.

yeah simply because you are blind and a sentimentalist who pretend to be right while the fact tells another story., the ending of inquisition as well as all the story of the 3rd chapter have decreted that everything that Morrigan have done in DAO as well as in DAI is an epic fail.  

1)  bounded to her dear mother for the eternity because of her pride ahah, what an epic fail, or failed in drink from the well of sorrow and loose the power of the dragon form. despite this being her main purpose.= always a failure

2)  lost the soul of Urthemiel another epic fail or be denied the soul in DAO= same result another fail.

enjoy the tears because the next chapter will have nothing to do with Urthemiel or the warden or Kieran , Solas is the main now and probably the Inquisitor and some other characters of Inquisition.

[Heimdall]

*Walks in thread, sees nigh incoherent posts bemoaning the treatment of the Warden and the OGB*
*Is surprised this isn't a Navoletti thread*
*Walks Out*

[blahblahblah]

yeah simply because you are blind and a sentimentalist who pretend to be right while the fact tells another story., the ending of inquisition as well as all the story of the 3rd chapter have decreted that everything that Morrigan have done in DAO as well as in DAI is an epic fail.  

1)  bounded to her dear mother for the eternity because of her pride ahah, what an epic fail, or failed in drink from the well of sorrow and loose the power of the dragon form. despite this being her main purpose.= always a failure

2)  lost the soul of Urthemiel another epic fail or be denied the soul in DAO= same result another fail.

enjoy the tears because the next chapter will have nothing to do with Urthemiel or the warden or Kieran , Solas is the main now and probably the Inquisitor and some other characters of Inquisition.

Troll harder. Delude yourself to your nonsense.