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#51
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If a game is good, like DAI, i believe more in a note 10 than 0. No game, even the bad ones, deserve 0. So, yes, who give a 0 to a games its just a troll or a hater, like you, and deserve to be ignored.

 

You should have ignored me then, yet somehow you couldn't heh ?



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I don't know if anyone else has notice this but the majority of "0/10" reviews on metacritic are one review accounts made very recently. It's kind of sad that people feel the need to crap on something just to be a-holes. Sure DAI has some flaws, but it's still the best game i've played so far. I just hope that Bioware knows better than to base their bonus system off of user reviews. Some companies actually do that.

 

And some companies actually hire people to spam message boards/meta critic with positive/negative posts/reviews. Especially those that have/had new games come out recently in direct competition with said game being spammed. Some developers and/or development staff think they're on a team and make these posts willingly. Some people just want to watch the world burn. And then you have trolls.



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User average is like many already said meaningless on aaa titles. So many people giving 0 or 10 like if it is a yes or no question. If the game deserves between 6-10 the game will get lower then it deserves because of the 0s, a game that deserves 1-4 will get higher then it deserves because of the 10s. DAI gets lower then it deserves, my view is that its an obvious 8-9 because the controller/camera problems draws it down from 9-10
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#54
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Dunno, I gave it a 0 on MC because I can't play. I had to return the game due to it constantly crashing, lagging, refusing to start, etc... 

 

If the game wasn't horridly unstable, I imagine i would have given the game an 8/10 or 9/10 because the only issues I had were the controls and the camera game wise.



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How the hell can you review a game if you havn't played it?

^^ Classic Metacritic **** above...


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Yeah it cant possibly be that new players make new accounts to rate a game ...

Reality is there are more than enough trolls on both sides that will most of the time simply give you a rather accurate score. (not to mention manipulations by marketing companies etc)

 

Also i think review-scores are even worse. The first few scores will be pretty much pointless (give us 9+ or you cant have the first review etc.). Next there will be lots of magazines that are afraid to give scores below 80 because they are afraid to get less money from ads from those companies etc. (have you never wondered why pre-release reviews always tend to be 9/10 or even 10/10?)

 

I dont see why ppl are complaining so much about user-reviews 0point reviews when there are probably equally as much 10point troll scores or even scores given from the developers themselves and random marketing companies ...

 

 

I only trust certain Youtubers reviews since years. And some sites that seem to be rather objective.

 

 

Reality is  DA:I scores from magazines are way too high now. PC Controlls, Cut-Scene fps drops etc.

sorry. this game deserves a 8-9.

bye.



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I'm playing on PC - no issues here /shrug.

Yeah that's the thing with PCs though. Hardware is becoming more... spread out (?) I guess and optimizing for every build is getting harder and harder because of that. Which is something most people don't consider. There's one good thing though... glitches. I play on console and PC and while I have experienced one or two funny glitches over thirty plus games on console... the glitches you get on PC are so frequent and hilarious... kind of makes it worth it.



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Places like Metatritics are good because they represent the players, good and bad, trolling, fanboying, hating, loving, not caring etc. It's like statistics - they do not really show details but rather a general image. Prof.reviews I do not trust anymore, to be honest. They always give 8/10 and higher to even bad games

Also as someone said prior to me - if you remove "troll" 0/10 posts then for equality sake you should also remove 10/10 posts. And calculate the rest. It's still pretty average

The best choice in my experience is youtube. Folk like AngryJoe. Or, well, especially AngryJoe

I sincerely hope you are joking. AngryJoe is on the payroll just like every other Youtube "reviewer" that's received an early-review copy of the game. It's in their contract that they may only speak positively. I actually watched his "early impressions" video and could tell he was trying very hard to only be mentioning positives such as "the animations and the way the mage casts his attacks are amazing"

Yeah, great review there Joe. How about you talk about important stuff such as the game only functions with a controller? But it still suckered me into buying it so I guess they've done their jobs well. 



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There's no actual logic to saying 'throw out the 10 scores if you're going to throw out the troll 0s', because the game earned the 10s, it didn't earn any 0s.  Some people like to give false scores because they don't like EA or because they don't like the PC controls setup or whatever, but those aren't real scores.  The folks giving the game a 10 are giving it a 10 because it's an incredible game.  Happily that's what most folks are giving it, 9s and 10s, because that's what it deserves.


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I sincerely hope you are joking. AngryJoe is on the payroll just like every other Youtube "reviewer" that's received an early-review copy of the game. It's in their contract that they may only speak positively. I actually watched his "early impressions" video and could tell he was trying very hard to only be mentioning positives such as "the animations and the way the mage casts his attacks are amazing"

Yeah, great review there Joe. How about you talk about important stuff such as the game only functions with a controller? But it still suckered me into buying it so I guess they've done their jobs well. 

I dunno

He can crush games if he feels like it. Like Aliens: Marine Thing

I don't really trust any reviewer, since I rarely find anyone who has the same tastes as I do, but I do trust folk like Joe... at least because they are fun :P 



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There's no actual logic to saying 'throw out the 10 scores if you're going to throw out the troll 0s', because the game earned the 10s, it didn't earn any 0s.  Some people like to give false scores because they don't like EA or because they don't like the PC controls setup or whatever, but those aren't real scores.  The folks giving the game a 10 are giving it a 10 because it's an incredible game.  Happily that's what most folks are giving it, 9s and 10s, because that's what it deserves.

 

You're just as biased as they are

Also, a proper review does include analysis of controls, gameplay and game mechanic. It's one of the basics. To say that noticing negative moments is "not real" means to fail as a reviewer

A proper reviewer should be honest, blunt even, yet neither hating not fanboying. Loving too much is just as bad as hating too much


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There's no actual logic to saying 'throw out the 10 scores if you're going to throw out the troll 0s', because the game earned the 10s, it didn't earn any 0s. 

 

 

You have no idea how illogical is what you just said.


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How the hell can you review a game if you havn't played it?

^^ Classic Metacritic **** above...

 

Classic troll above ^^^^

 

If you pay someone for a product and they give it to you broken and unusable, you are going to likely provide feedback as the lowest score possible.

 

as for the 8 or 9/10 thing I said MAYBE, because I can't say for sure since I couldn't play it.

 

However game-breaking bugs that keep you from playing the game WHAT SO EVER is an automatic 0 score in my books.



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On a personal note, if this is the best game you've ever played you must have started gaming yesterday.

This is a pretty common tactic among certain types of people. Please provide an example. A real example mind you, not a game in your head, but a real example of what you consider to be a better game that is currently available. No nostaliga-glasses either. Planescape had a better overall story but the graphics and combat don't hold up. 



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For every review with legitimate reasons for a low score due to game performance, bugs or just not liking the gameplay or whatever, there seems to be a load of trivial or malicious ones though. Rating it zero for not having a walk button, or because you can't run it on an old dual-core machine, or because it's EA, or because you didn't like ME3's ending (all actual "reviews" :P) and the like is just silly and makes a joke of the ratings. 


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I don't know if anyone else has notice this but the majority of "0/10" reviews on metacritic are one review accounts made very recently. It's kind of sad that people feel the need to crap on something just to be a-holes. Sure DAI has some flaws, but it's still the best game i've played so far. I just hope that Bioware knows better than to base their bonus system off of user reviews. Some companies actually do that.

 

People are not doing it to be assholes.

 

A lot of PC folks are having issues.  Technical issues that may or may not be Bioware's fault, but also the issue that reality did not meet expectations with DAI and this is clearly all on Bioware.

 

They actively lied to the traditional Bioware PC fanbase about what this game was going to be.  It might be a good game.  But it is not the CRPG they promised it would be.

 

Most people that bought this game on the PC play with a KB+Mouse and liked DAO better than DA2.  This game was supposed to take the franchise back towards the gameplay of DAO but it does not.  The combat is no more 'tactical' than DA2, forget about DAO.  It's super twitchy, the AI/orders for your party is dogshit compared to DAO.  The tac cam is terrible with a KB+Mouse and does not zoom anywhere near as far out as it needs to be able to to provide a 'tactical' picture of the battlefield.

 

The UI is bad, certainly not optimized for KB+Mouse.  Tooltips, depending where you are in the UI, are either unimplemented or pointless.

 

Item descriptions, which may sound trivial or even pointless to some of the fanbase, are gone.  Item descriptions have been in every Bioware RPG since the very first one!

 

Not every AAA title gets trashed on Metacritic by disgruntled customers.  Bioware/EA are getting what they deserve, with respect to Metacritic user reviews at least...


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There sure is a lot of butthurt in this thread because the metacritic user score for DA:I is rather low.  :D

 

DA:I deserves that low score just like ME3 and DA2. Get over it. 

 

It's funny* that if a thread goes up that has even the slightest bit of positivity towards Inquisition I can count on the same six or so people to show up in it and start bashing the game and the people who like the game and people who play on consoles and BioWare and EA and Sesame Street and chocolate and happiness.

 

I think it's fairly easy to tell where the real "butthurt" is coming from.

 

(*Spoiler note: It's not actually funny. It's sad. Just sad.)



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It's funny* that if a thread goes up that has even the slightest bit of positivity towards Inquisition I can count on the same six or so people to show up in it and start bashing the game and the people who like the game and people who play on consoles and BioWare and EA and Sesame Street and chocolate and happiness.

 

I think it's fairly easy to tell where the real "butthurt" is coming from.

 

(*Spoiler note: It's not actually funny. It's sad. Just sad.)

 

What's even more funny it's you always showing up with nothing meaningful to say, or anything to back up your arguments.

Crying about any negativity, and bashing everyone from the opposite side. 



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What's even more funny it's you always showing up with nothing meaningful to say, or anything to back up your arguments.

Crying about any negativity, and bashing everyone from the opposite side. 

 

What's even more sad is that you are, apparently, stalking me and yet still missing where I say that people do have legitimate complaints and issues and that I hope they get fixed...



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What's even more sad is that you are, apparently, stalking me and yet still missing where I say that people do have legitimate complaints and issues and that I hope they get fixed...

 

Yup, I am stalking you as much as you are those people you mentioned in your prvious post. Work both ways doesn't it, father ?



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I think we're still dealing with aftermath from how bad DA2 was. For a lot of people it will be a very long time before they give Bioware a fair and honest shot again. I almost didn't buy DA: I myself out of fear it'd be another mistake like when I had preordered DA2


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Same goes for the one liner 10/10 reviews.
 

DA:O, ME1 and ME2 have a very high user score on Metacritic, while DA2, ME3 and DA:I have a low score. The critic score for all of those games is very high.
 
The Metacritic user score is remarkably accurate as opposed to the critic score.

 

Not in all cases.

 

4chan and rpgcodex review bomb (0 spam on many accounts from 1000's of users) all Bioware games  at MetaCritic starting around after DA2 came out.  I'm sure other sites do it as well.  Blizzard also gets this treatment sometimes. 

 

User reviews are not trust worthy anymore.


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Some people here can't fathom that for some of us Origins is the golden standard as to what BioWare games should look and feel like. Half-baked dumbed-down efforts just to sell the most copies on all kinds of consoles will not sit well with people who want to have an experience, not only hack and slash stupidity. People are fed up with mediocrity because they know that BioWare can do better but won't in favor of huge sales prospects.


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I simply never trust random user reviews... It makes no sense anymore. It's way too many childish or ignorant people on the internet to trust them. 

 

If I read any reviews it is normally always professional reviews, because at least you can confirm there is a "certain" amount of objectivity to them, but of course this is not 100% the case either. Metacritic has lost most all respect from me. 

 

Not once have I made a purchasing decision based on metacritic reviews. If there is one way I would recommend evaluating a game... one word...: YouTube



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Some people here can't fathom that for some of us Origins is the golden standard as to what BioWare games should look and feel like. Half-baked dumbed-down efforts just to sell the most copies on all kinds of consoles will not sit well with people who want to have an experience, not only hack and slash stupidity. People are fed up with mediocrity because they know that BioWare can do better but won't in favor of huge sales prospects.

 

Your "better" can and most likely is others "crappy"... just saying...

 

...because apparently our "better" which IMO is DA:I is your "crappy"