There's no actual logic to saying 'throw out the 10 scores if you're going to throw out the troll 0s',
In actual statistics they remove outlying results precisely because they are indicative of bias. The game isn't worth a 10 but its also not worth a 0. In fact I'd say the critics metacritic score is actually a pretty good indication.
In actual statistics they remove outlying results precisely because they are indicative of bias. The game isn't worth a 10 but its also not worth a 0. In fact I'd say the critics metacritic score is actually a pretty good indication.
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Agreed. There seems to be a general lack of understainding on how statistical analysis works. A "0" as well as the "10" are outliers. No game is absolutely worthless (0) nor perfect (10), but there seems to be this notion that a "10" has more validity than a "0", which statistically speaking is false.
By that is what an average does, it minimizes the outliers and gives you a measure of central tendancy. This game on a PC deserves the approximately 5.4 user score average it has received.
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Agreed. There seems to be a general lack of understainding on how statistical analysis works. A "0" as well as the "10" are outliers. No game is absolutely worthless (0) nor perfect (10), but there seems to be this notion that a "10" has more validity than a "0", which statistically speaking is false.
By that is what an average does, it minimizes the outliers and gives you a measure of central tendancy. This game on a PC deserves the approximately 5.4 user score average it has received.
Primarchone
What gets me is that, while the end score is almost precisely average (5.3 on PC last time I checked), there are comparatively precious few reviews that actually give the game this score or around it (6, 5, 4). It's almost all 10-9-8 or 0-1-2, which indicates less of a consensus that the game is average than the game is love it or hate it. I mean, scoring systems are broken and useless as a rule anyway (see what Totalbiscuit has to say on the matter, he nails it) but that's just even worse than usual.
Metacritic is a bad way to rate a game, anyway, and I say that for all games not just those I personally like. Profesionnal reviews rewards AAA titles that enables them to have more coverage. User reviews reward niche games and safe sequels that don't have any controversial elements, and aren't being attached to big publishers that people hate on principle.
Watch Youtube videos or read reviews of a select few trusted websites, or poke around various forums dedicated to the game (not just this one). I'm pretty sure that's a much better way to rate what people think about the game than a site that's utterly polluted by trolls and overly emotional people on both sides of the spectrum.
And finally, one thing that annoys me to no end is saying ''oh, well X score is closer to the TRUE score!! (whenever the critic's or the user's). Enjoyment of a game is purely subjective. No game ''deserves'' any score. It might certainly deserve criticism of flaws, which DA:I has to be sure, and people are absolutely free to point them out and dislike the game for them. But since a score is a completely arbitrary construct that only takes one's personal opinion on a game into account, ''deserve'' doesn't even enter the picture, I find.
4 pages on metacritic well done OP lol.
I don't know if anyone else has notice this but the majority of "0/10" reviews on metacritic are one review accounts made very recently. It's kind of sad that people feel the need to crap on something just to be a-holes. Sure DAI has some flaws, but it's still the best game i've played so far. I just hope that Bioware knows better than to base their bonus system off of user reviews. Some companies actually do that.
Its the best game you played so far? Are you playing in on the PC?
Cause interface and KB&M controlls on this game is wrost than DA:2 I just bought this game and i want to go on metacritic make an account and give it 0.
I don't even use metacrititc and this pile of steaming crap of a port is making me want to do it.
Cause interface and KB&M controlls on this game is wrost than DA:2 I just bought this game and i want to go on metacritic make an account and give it 0.
I don't even use metacrititc and this pile of steaming crap of a port is making me want to do it.
Thereby demonstrating why the users metacritic score is useless.
Thereby demonstrating why the users metacritic score is useless.
So is the reviwers scores. That site just needs to die.
Review scores by consumers on any site, regardless of whether it is for games, films, or books...are best ignored. Most consumers make awful critics. The majority tend to either rate products at or near the highest rating or at or near the lowest rating. Everything is either the best or worst game/film/book they've ever purchased, with no in between.
The only thing review scores are good for is in using them to pull up individual reviews, both positive and negative, to read. You'll find a few good ones among the mass who just praise or bash a product without giving an intelligent review. Among those few intelligent ones, both positive and negative, you can get a good feel for where the product succeeded or failed based on whether or not the same features are repeatedly singled out for either praise or criticism.
So is the reviwers scores. That site just needs to die.
Oh I think you are little confused about that. Professional reviewers don't do reviews for Metacritic. Metacritic is only aggregator. Even if it died reviews and their score wouldn't go anywhere.
If you want to proof for that, click "Read full" on any review. It will take you to the original site. Or go to any other aggreagator site, you will find the same reviews posted there.
e.g. http://www.gameranki...tion/index.html
Oh I think you are little confused about that. Professional reviewers don't do reviews for Metacritic. Metacritic is only aggregator. Even if it died reviews and their score wouldn't go anywhere.
If you want to proof for that, click "Read full" on any review. It will take you to the original site. Or go to any other aggreagator site, you will find the same reviews posted there.
I know that mate. I am talking about the "score" and how they don't make it public on how they work out the aggregated score.
Totalbiscuit is right on the mark about the metacritic site.
So is the reviwers scores. That site just needs to die.
Not going to happen if people flock by it to rate a game/film/etc 0 like you proposed doing. Or 10 because they see ''haters'' rate it low, for that matter.
The truth is just that simple; Metacritic is just bad as I see it. I would advise anyone not to feed it by not going to it. It may be because I just think scores are close to worthless on principle, but still.
Not going to happen if people flock by it to rate a game/film/etc 0 like you proposed doing. Or 10 because they see ''haters'' rate it low, for that matter.
The truth is just that simple; Metacritic is just bad as I see it. I would advise anyone not to feed it by not going to it. It may be because I just think scores are close to worthless on principle, but still.
Well i haven't done it. I just answered the OP as to why people are doing it 
Interesting that the PS3 version of Skyrim was so messed up that many people (like me) couldn't complete the game (Frame rate, freezing) yet it seemed that the majority of reviews were 9-10/10.
Only read critic reviews on metacritic. Never user reviews.
The funny thing about user ratings is that back in the day some sites would allow users to rate products that were only announced, but hadn't been released yet. With games that would turn into haters giving games a 0 or 1 before it even released and fanboys giving it a 10. And this is a game that neither had played.
I can't say whether or not that is the case with Metacritic though.
Only review I care about is my own.
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I don't know if anyone else has notice this but the majority of "0/10" reviews on metacritic are one review accounts made very recently. It's kind of sad that people feel the need to crap on something just to be a-holes. Sure DAI has some flaws, but it's still the best game i've played so far. I just hope that Bioware knows better than to base their bonus system off of user reviews. Some companies actually do that.
lol who cares about the user reviews on metacritics?? you or anyone smart for that matter shouldn't take those reviews seriously
the sales matter hopefully they are very good Bioware deserves that
The funny thing about user ratings is that back in the day some sites would allow users to rate products that were only announced, but hadn't been released yet. With games that would turn into haters giving games a 0 or 1 before it even released and fanboys giving it a 10. And this is a game that neither had played.
I can't say whether or not that is the case with Metacritic though.
Not on Metacritic. You can check any upcoming game, for example
http://www.metacriti...0000-armageddon
you have the timer "until game release" and posting reviews for those games is blocked
Well i haven't done it. I just answered the OP as to why people are doing it
I'm going to "Like" your post just because you have a Lily Saber avatar. 
Take that, haters!
lol who cares about the user reviews on metacritics?? you or anyone smart for that matter shouldn't take those reviews seriously
the sales matter hopefully they are very good Bioware deserves that
Truth. I don't take any reviews terribly seriously, unless it's from a source with a proven track record for liking the kind of games that I do. Remember when people hated on Diablo 3 for not being another COD? That was just embarrassing. I think maybe i'm still a little naive. I checked out the reviews because I loved the game and then saw a bunch of 0's. Not even Duke Nukem Forever was a "0" game. So when I clicked on the reviews out of curiosity and found a bunch of people (or possible fewer using multiple accounts) who had just joined metacritic to give one game a bad review I thought i'd share the info.
My review is 9/10. It is similar to what major gaming sites give the game. That is enough justification for me to completely write off users reviews as utterly worthless for not only DA:I but for all future titles. But I don't have to because I've already done that a long time ago, as has anyone else with a modicum of sense.
As for people who don't meet that criteria, who cares? What nonfactors do is irrelevant.
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