As a Lebanese I have daily experiences with that in the form of tribalism.
Tribalism is actually a better word than bias. Thank you. You just need to see how football supporters go on even though they all love the same game.
PS Why does the edit button only appear sometimes on this forum?
Tribalism is actually a better word than bias. Thank you. You just need to see how football supporters go on even though they all love the same game.
That too....
I think my cousin and his friend got into a scuffle after the former taunted the latter after an Arsenal vs Chelsea game...
I laugh.
I dont see why ppl are complaining so much about user-reviews 0point reviews when there are probably equally as much 10point troll scores
I think both are a problem, but I also think unfair 0-point scores are more prevalent. Plus, they really drag down the score. For a game worth 8/10, an unjustified 10/10 only gives a minor bump, whereas an unjustified 0/10 has four times the impact in dragging the score down.
Anyone rating DA:I a 4/10 or lower (45% of user reviews on metacritic) shouldn't be reviewing games because they're misleading other gamers. By all means, deride the game for its failings, but judge the game as a whole.
I think both are a problem, but I also think unfair 0-point scores are more prevalent. Plus, they really drag down the score. For a game worth 8/10, an unjustified 10/10 only gives a minor bump, whereas an unjustified 0/10 has four times the impact in dragging the score down.
Anyone rating DA:I a 4/10 or lower (45% of user reviews on metacritic) shouldn't be reviewing games because they're misleading other gamers. By all means, deride the game for its failings, but judge the game as a whole.
No you can't quell free speech just because you don't like what they are saying. You could take out the scoring scheme I suppose but is that really necessary. Anyway I'm not really bothered now that I'm playing it and enjoying it, but it would be nice to see credit where credit's due.
Real talk time.
Some people feel that if they're not happy, NOBODY should be happy. And Dragon Age Inquisition was NEVER going to make them happy. From the very start, they decided that they were going to hate it, and that they were going to do everything in their (insignificant) power to make everyone else hate it too.
It wouldn't matter if Inquisition magically cured cancer and gave everyone free beer. They'd still hate it.
Because it's what those kinds of people do.
I'm one of the fussiest people when it comes to RPGs and computer games in general, if any little thing breaks my immersion, I put the game down and never come back to it. The only reason I liked SKyrim was because of the modding. This game has no mods, and yet nothing has broke my immersion so far.
No you can't quell free speech just because you don't like what they are saying. You could take out the scoring scheme I suppose but is that really necessary. Anyway I'm not really bothered now that I'm playing it and enjoying it, but it would be nice to see credit where credit's due.
"Free speech" is not an excuse for rash behavior.
Critic and User scores did not match with ME1 and ME2 because they were the first two games or because they were released 'back then'.
They matched because they were truly great games. DA2, ME3, DAI...those are not great games. They are good games.
Also, Critic and User scores matching still happens today with truly great games. Divinity Original Sin did that, this year.
ME1 and DAO were the first games of the series. Back then people weren't spoiled brats and players tended to enjoy whatever was given to them.
ME2 was pretty great. It had some flaws but nothing relevant to the overarching experience.
You realize ME3 received A LOT of hate for the ending ( which was eventually fixed ), leading to a plethora of 0/10's which implied that the game was horrendous when in fact it was pretty much great except for the disappointing ending. The current iteration of ME3 DOES NOT reflect that score. It's pretty much a 10 with all its DLC and the EC.
DA2 received A LOT of hate for several reasons that are admittedly justified. The game was pretty good in other aspects but its score is definitely not above an 7 or an 8 depending on what you liked.
Now you have people who hated ME3 and DA2...and here comes DAI.
Suddenly every issue that does not please them is HORRIBLE and renders the game unplayable.
0/10's for not being able to run the game because of their own fked up computers, some issues with gameplay elements, and the lack of proper hair.
Alright then.
I didn't see anyone rate DAO a zero because of its much more gamebreaking/apparent flaws.
I posted this in another thread:
Inventory management was non-existent at first.
Combat is a slow hot mess that needs Combat Tweaks to be remotely challenging.
It had tons of ability fluff and several useless specializations that needed Combat Tweaks to make interesting.
Coercion was mandatory to make the game more interesting. Otherwise it had black or white decision making.
Most skills were useless, again requiring Combat Tweaks to make them useful.
Mages were blatantly overpowered. There was a significant discrepancy in player power across playthroughs.
Companion approval was mostly based on gifts. You bought their approval... how charming.
The fetch quests had very little context and were clustered.
You virtually did no exploration, and whenever you had to people complained (The Fade, The Deep Roads).
The game crashed a lot for no reason until patch 1.03
There was no storage space til Warden's Keep was released.
Armor and weapon crafting was non-existent.
THE MEMORY LEAK!!!!
I know right? Perfect 10/10 game compared to DAI.
"Free speech" is not an excuse for rash behavior.
It is actually. Someone's rashness is another persons rationality.
It is actually. Someone's rashness is another persons rationality.
Who decides what is rash and what isn't?
It is actually. Someone's rashness is another persons rationality.
The Earth is flat.
The Earth is flat.
I don't agree with that but I agree with your right to say that if you wish.
I don't agree with that but I agree with your right to say that if you wish.
I don't agree with that but I agree with your right to say that if you wish.
Remember people were once executed for saying the world was a sphere.
You've been quoting yourself it's confusing me D:
Critic and User scores did not match with ME1 and ME2 because they were the first two games or because they were released 'back then'.
They matched because they were truly great games. DA2, ME3, DAI...those are not great games. They are good games.
Also, Critic and User scores matching still happens today with truly great games. Divinity Original Sin did that, this year.
You failed to address the discrepancy in the rating despite DAI not having any more flaws than DAO. You want to argue with me, give me solid reasons beyond your own nostalgia.
Why is DAO excused of all its flaws while DAI is a worse game despite having less prominent issues?
The answer is that players were less judgmental back then and didn't participate in tribal freeping.
Divinity Original Sin had plenty of issues on release. Yet it's mild player-base enjoyed the game for what it is. Divinity Original Sin is not even a remotely popular game either. Those tend to have less biased reviews.
You've been quoting yourself it's confusing me D:
It's the only way I can guarantee a sensible conversation 
No seriously, the edit button keeps disappearing.
It's the only way I can guarantee a sensible conversation
No seriously, the edit button keeps disappearing.
Try reloading the page.
Try reloading the page.
ok thanks
Yep that worked
Remember people were once executed for saying the world was a sphere.
Really? When and where? that's mostly a myth, same like the "evil Inquisition" (though the spanish one was kinda out of control sometimes, and I am not speaking of comfy-chairs here ^^)
Anyway: As an older person I see this whole pooing on games without any justification as another sympton of the internet. Besides all the benefits it brought us, it also destroyed a lot of the fun and beauty gaming once had to offer. It's not just the money-grabbing evil empires like EA or Ubisoft to blame, but also the players and the way they spit bile and hatred of a game often based on nothing than personal agendas.
You don't like Bioware/EA? Downgrade their games, even if not justified. Don't like DRMS or Origin/Steam? Go on your little crusade and downgrade the games, even if not justified! You are unable to wrap your head around how to control games? well, you know the drill!!!
Seriously, I hate this, but I already saw it coming, in fact shortly after DAI was first announced I knew this would happen. And I think some User-reviews of today were actually written back then 
I, for once, try to be more level-headed. I had a hulk-rage when ME3 came out, but even I would never score it a zero, evn it beeing probably the worst Bioware-Game ever released, and not just due to the ending, mind you ... but people on the internet often feel like little gods and preachers, trying to bring their crude messages to the entire world, therefore I recommend: ... Burn the Metacritics. Kill the Trolls. Purge the Ignorant. 
Indeed, this is the first time I've actually seen him give a positive review, and after playing the game for 20 hours I can see why he did.
I never read any reviews. I always just buy the game for myself, and return it if I don't like it.
No you can't quell free speech just because you don't like what they are saying. You could take out the scoring scheme I suppose but is that really necessary. Anyway I'm not really bothered now that I'm playing it and enjoying it, but it would be nice to see credit where credit's due.
I didn't say metacritic should ban them, I said they should grow the hell up. More and more people are relying on user reviews (which I think is a mistake) rather than professional reviews because there's this perception that professional reviewers are in bed with publishers. It doesn't help that there's some credence to that in some cases, but even still I've always found professional reviews to be much closer to my own opinion of games.
These users scoring the game 0/10 because "I need to ping to find items" or "tactical camera is broken" are concentrating on one item to the exclusion of all others. That's no way to accurately rate a game. The point of reviewing a game is so that others can get an idea what the game is like without having played it. Too many people use writing reviews as a way to ****** about one or two disappointing features.
Some people here can't fathom that for some of us Origins is the golden standard as to what BioWare games should look and feel like. Half-baked dumbed-down efforts just to sell the most copies on all kinds of consoles will not sit well with people who want to have an experience, not only hack and slash stupidity. People are fed up with mediocrity because they know that BioWare can do better but won't in favor of huge sales prospects.
Some people here can't fathom that Origins is a ship that sailed. It was a good game, but far from perfect.
The franchise evolved, deal with it.
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