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Why didn't BioWare just remove the character-customisation completely?


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SethSteiner

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Yes Character Creation sucks, it`s old and I mean really old but:



"Shepards story is your story" <----

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Kwonnern

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I believe Bioware felt the Character Customization as is was sufficient
and did not need a drastic overhaul / makeover. (<--- lol)

Modifié par Kwonnern, 25 janvier 2010 - 07:42 .


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wildamishrose

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I always kinda liked the character customization in mass effect. My first shep on 360 looks kinda like a robocop era peter weller, and my second one on pc looks like admiral adama.

Modifié par wildamishrose, 25 janvier 2010 - 07:42 .


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JulietShepard

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I think that those of you who don't like the customization feature just don't have the patience or the skills (or both :) to make a good-looking Shepard and you're bursting your frustration on others (Bioware). Use a preset and shut up.

Or just flame away - if that's the best you can do...



I like this feature for letting me make my Shep exactly I'd like him/her to look like. Even if it takes hours to do that. :) Grats to Bio.

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JulietShepard wrote...

I think that those of you who don't like the customization feature just don't have the patience or the skills (or both :) to make a good-looking Shepard and you're bursting your frustration on others (Bioware). Use a preset and shut up.
Or just flame away - if that's the best you can do...

I like this feature for letting me make my Shep exactly I'd like him/her to look like. Even if it takes hours to do that. :) Grats to Bio.


Actually I have plenty of patience for these sorts of things (my characters in DA, Fallout 3 and Oblivion confirm this....not that you can see them Posted Image).  Skills?.......enough to make my Oblivion character look eerily like me (poor guy Posted Image).

I didn't like the ME1 character creator as you could never imo get a really good idea what your character would look like in game.  I'm not flaming BW just giving a bit of feedback.  Ended up using the defualt male-shep and will do so for ME2.

PS you shut up! Posted Image

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Bolthame

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Aggrivated, just because you think it sucks, doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. I for one really enjoy the character customisation on ME1 and can only assume that if you're right and it's the exact same in ME2, will enjoy it then, too.



Thoughtful, Bioware are pleasing both sides of the fence, if you don't like it you can just choose default Shepard, if you do like it, customise away..

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JulietShepard wrote...

I think that those of you who don't like the customization feature just don't have the patience or the skills (or both :) to make a good-looking Shepard and you're bursting your frustration on others (Bioware). Use a preset and shut up.
Or just flame away - if that's the best you can do...

I like this feature for letting me make my Shep exactly I'd like him/her to look like. Even if it takes hours to do that. :) Grats to Bio.


- It has little to do with either patience or 'skills' (or both). It has everything to do with the fact that the system flat-out sucks. The options are limited, all the hairstyles are ugly, the facial hair looks like it was slapped on from Microsoft Paint, and the colours are generic.

To suggest that you can spend 'hours' on Mass Effect's character-customisation system is a difficult thought at best... you spend more than two hours tweaking a handful of sliders that have ******-poor variety?

Well, at least you (and others apparently) are happy with the customisation system. However I still feel that it needs vast improvements and a huge re-vamping... and I think we could all agree to that.

Modifié par Silent Friend, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:35 .


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Gvaz

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I don't understand why he cant have a cool haircut, he's not military anymore in me2

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SkywardDescent

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Silent Friend.



Why do you start your posts with "-"?

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I don't have near the rage as the OP on this subject, but I will admit it is a pretty pathetic CC..

Also, anyone who keeps bringing up how the engine is the limitation, check out this link, it's of a game called APB that also uses the UE3 engine, same as Mass Effect. disclaimer- I'm in no way asking for this games level of customization, simply pointing out it's not a limitation of the engine...

www.youtube.com/watch

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I for one liked the system, although I found it was difficult to make a face I liked.



I do recognize how limited it is though, and hope Bioware will expand on this system in later games, if not in the Mass Effect series itself. I will never understand however why any game developpers never bother putting more than a handful hairstyles in a game. As a modder with 10 years of experience, I can tell its not exactly long to create these things. Scaleable body proportions is very difficulty to implement, but a few hair style models is all too easy.

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Dave of Canada

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GvazElite wrote...

I don't understand why he cant have a cool haircut, he's not military anymore in me2


*Slight ME2 spoilers*

Dead people don't grow hair!

*end spoilers*

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eternalnightmare13

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It may take some trial and error along with creativity but you can defintely make some good looking custom Sheps.

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Revan312

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Dave of Canada wrote...

GvazElite wrote...

I don't understand why he cant have a cool haircut, he's not military anymore in me2


*Slight ME2 spoilers*

Dead people don't grow hair!

*end spoilers*


Being genetically restructured with additional cybernetic/mechanical insides makes the "dead people" argument kinda lame, lol

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SethSteiner

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Pffff no patience. I love character creation but what does it help if the character creation sucks? No one would say its impossible bad but it doesn`t develope. They say "oh the bad bad engine, we can`t make it better" but no one can tell me, they are unable to improve the texture of the hair. Yeah it is a little bit beter but still not good enough so anyone could tell it`s great.

Also the engine doesn`t limit the number of different hairstyles or beards. As it was said before, other games have better cc`s and Mass Effect didn`t even take the tiniest things out of things we had years ago in fighting games like King of Fighters. Instead of putting a nice big color palette like in Sims we need to click us threw the whole bar. Are these minor things? Yes they are but just these things are something to bother about. If it`s such a minor thing, it should be one of the first things that are changed in a sequel.



In ME2 the characters look better, I wouldn`t deny it but still I can`t see how my FemShep should look as good as I want her to look.

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JrayM16

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I would point out that the OP does not have to use the character creator if they dont want to. It is completely optional. Things that are optional should never be stripped out.

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Ruud333

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JrayM16 wrote...

Things that are optional should never be stripped out.


^This!!!!

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RogueAI

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They should remove romances as well. That would remove 80% of the threads on these forums of pervs wanting to bone everything and moves (or doesn't move).

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Mako9000

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 If I had to name one thing wrong with the character customizer, it would have to be how you couldn't rotate the head.

Bioware, place tell me I'll be allowed to rotate around Shepard's face when I start ME2.

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DJStarstryker

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Maybe I'm biased, OP, but I think my custom male Shepard looks a lot better than the default John Shepard. He looks realistic, not like a doll.

Personally, I don't mind that Bioware didn't change anything. The only downside for me is I find it incredibly hard to make a FemShep I'm happy with, and I think the long neck all FemSheps have is partly to do with it.

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Theronyll Itholien

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My customized Shepard is AWESOME and I LOVE his looks.



Also, I HATE the default Shepard's looks. The arrogant ******! So thank you BioWare for keeping the Character Customization in!



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Jimbe2693

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^Nice custom shep there



I like the way my Shepard looks, sure the CC could use more options but I think its good regardless.

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@ Theronyll Itholien: That is indeed one badass Shepard.



Anyway, what they didn't fix for ME2, they may fix for ME3. It is (for now, at least) an ongoing process. Which is cool! I would have liked them to improve on the character customization, but hey, I can live with it. I still prefer my custom Shepards over the defaults. Anyway, there's doubtless going to be a topic by the devs to post critique/suggestions for ME3, so you can voice your issues there when the time comes.

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Theronyll Itholien wrote...

My customized Shepard is AWESOME and I LOVE his looks.

Also, I HATE the default Shepard's looks. The arrogant ******! So thank you BioWare for keeping the Character Customization in!

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Very well done Theronyll!

That Shepard looks very experienced and hardcore!

Bad to the Bone!

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the character creator in ME was limited at best. terrible hair/beard styles and the fact that you can't really tell how your character will look in the game itself. i didn't expect them to do much with it in ME2. but come on! the least they could have done is added one or two new hair/beard styles. but no just the exact same thing as before. i flat out refuse to use the "marketing face" default Shepard. so ill suffer again i guess. or ill make a Female Shepard.