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[MisanthropePrime]

I found maybe 23 of the 30 secrets, 6 of the caprice coins and like 7 of the stone halla. Is there a guide anywhere?

[Eolath]

I don't think so, I'll recall some locations from my memory.

 

There are actually (atleast) 11 stone Halla to be found, so you can miss one and still complete the quest.

3 in the Servant Quarters (1 is obvious; behind assassin, another 1 is near a balcony that you cannot miss if you explore the whole area, the last one is near the entrance area in the kitchen),

3 in the Royal Quarters (1 is obvious just explore the whole area, it's inside some window, the other 1 can be found near the door that leads to the rift, the last 1 is behind the elven girl you save from yet another assassin).

1 in the starting fountain area.

1 near the fountain inside of the actual castle, climb up the to the balcony and it's directly to your right. This route leads up to the library.

1 in the treasury room of the Grand Duke.

Can't remember where I found the other 2, probably 1 in the library area somewhere? Cannot imagine there wouldn't be. Think there might be a 4th in the servants quarter, I'm not entirely sure but I had 6/10 Halla statues when I left that area.

 

Also secrets aplenty if you carefully scan every area. Remember to visit every whisper area a couple of times until it counts, and sometimes secret items respawn, so you'll have to run through the whole castle a couple of times. You can return secrets until you confront the rift.

 

Only found 13 out of 15 caprice coins, potentially 14 behind some halla stone door that I no longer had stones for. I really don't recall where I found most of them. I do know I was surprised at the amount of caprice coins I found in the Servant area. Since you're running on a timer there's quite a chance you'll miss some of them.

2 can be found in the main building bottom floor (1st floor is where you confront the assassin), 1 in the larger room and 1 in a bed. I almost missed the latter one. Don't bother with the maze in this area, it yields nothing valuable.

You can probably find some caprice coins behind the locked doors (library, treasury room), which I could not enter because I'm not a rogue.

 

Hopefully this helps somewhat, if you're more careful with the halla stones (don't use them on every single door, save and look inside and if the loot is crap reload your earlier save. I didn't do this.) you'll probably be able to get more caprice coins as well.

[Bessy067]

I found 11 or 12 Halla statues and I still couldn't open the last Halla doors.

[Asakti]

Can you open all of the Halla doors?  I found all of the Halla (well, 10 of them) but there are three doors I can't open because I don't have enough (to do so I'd need probably 10 more Halla).

[Captain_Pants]

Not all of them no, the last 2 doors are a straight either/or choice between the 1 with the guy trapped in and the other 1 in same area

[Voragoras]

I'm interested in this enough to give it a bump. I have about 2/3 missing from Caprice Coins and then 5 from the Secrets, and I think I found all but 1 of the halla statues.

[MasterSolo]

Spoiler

Seriously though, google has everything. All you need to do is use it.

http://dragonage.wik...wing_Away_Money

http://dragonage.wik..._of_Stone_Halla

http://dragonage.wik..._Blackmail_Hunt

[Voragoras]

^ I had Googled it, but nothing had showed up - the only relevant link was this topic and a post on Reddit. Still, thanks. No idea why they didn't come up on search.

[jcoultas]

Annoyingly, those maps only have 14 caprice coins on them, and I found all of those, but I cannot find number 15 which is nowhere to be seen on those maps.  Kinda like how the players guide doesn't show the locations of all the mosaic pieces.  I feel I was kinda robbed on that purchase, though hopefully the digital copy will be updated to include the 15th caprice, or the game will receive an update to add in the missing caprice, or to drop the requirement down to 14.  I spent quite a few hours going through that palace inch by inch and I can say with a high degree of certainty that there is no 15th caprice, so it would probably be easier to lower the game requirement to 14.  There are two rooms that can only be accessed by a rogue inquisitor, so my next character will be a rogue, but I doubt that the last caprice would be in there.  That would be unfair to anyone that plays mages or warriors.  I am still very curious about those doors though.

[Voragoras]

^ The Caprice Coins (from what I can see) respawn regularly in those locations, so just constantly re-comb the Vestibule, Gardens, Guest Wing, et cetera.

[jcoultas]

^ The Caprice Coins (from what I can see) respawn regularly in those locations, so just constantly re-comb the Vestibule, Gardens, Guest Wing, et cetera.

I'll advance my x360 a few days then, and reload, and try to find then again.  They've never respawned for me.  Actually, I am on my third play-through and I took a break after getting 14 pieces and re-searching all fourteen spots.  Maybe by fiddling with the clock and reloading they will respawn, but after hours of searching while loaded continuously they have not respawned.  Anyway, clock shenanigans is worth giving a try.

[Voragoras]

I'll advance my x360 a few days then, and reload, and try to find then again.  They've never respawned for me.  Actually, I am on my third play-through and I took a break after getting 14 pieces and re-searching all fourteen spots.  Maybe by fiddling with the clock and reloading they will respawn, but after hours of searching while loaded continuously they have not respawned.  Anyway, clock shenanigans is worth giving a try.

 

It's after each "check-point" in the main quest, so re-check past areas after getting access to the Servants Quarters and the Royal Wing, and after you dance with the Duchess.

[jcoultas]

^ The Caprice Coins (from what I can see) respawn regularly in those locations, so just constantly re-comb the Vestibule, Gardens, Guest Wing, et cetera.

I advanced my consoles clock forward by 1 year and reloaded the game, and I went around to all 14 caprice spots and nothing respawned.

[jcoultas]

It's after each "check-point" in the main quest, so re-check past areas after getting access to the Servants Quarters and the Royal Wing, and after you dance with the Duchess.

I've been rechecking every area after every checkpoint, still only got 14, as has been the case in my first two playthroughs.  Maybe they respawn on some other console, but that doesn't seem to be the case on my 360.  There appears to be no way to get 15 caprice coins on my system

[caradoc2000]

What happened to those days when people actually played through their games? instead of "google through them"

 

Nowadays it is just "how can I get 1000 Gamerscore"

[Voragoras]

What happened to those days when people actually played through their games? instead of "google through them"

 

Nowadays it is just "how can I get 1000 Gamerscore"

...People still do that. It's just that now they can get help if they're stuck, instead of either just putting the game down forever because they can't progress or settling for less than 100% completion. Which is what they would've done before. And gaming hotlines and gaming magazines had solutions and cheats in them, as well, but the internet has just made it easier to get solutions, and increased accessibility of games as a result.

 

Reminds me of a gaming thread I read a while back where the users were mourning the death of the ridiculously long password input systems that used to serve as save spots. "Back in my day we had to memorise 2 notepad pages of XVSF-CAGA-XASG passwords, instead of clicking the save function! These kiddonks just don't get what true gaming is!" *shakes cane*

 

People need to take off their nostalgia goggles. I had to do all of that stuff, too, but let's not pretend that gaming hasn't exponentially improved from "back in those days". Unless you want to pretend that most Dreamcast/SNES/etc. games are in any way as expansive or intuitive as Far Cry 4 or Skyrim or ME2 or Inquisition. It's like complaining that "people are so lazy and just use cars and ships and planes to get everywhere now! In the good old days of yore you had to spend weeks voyaging across the sea to get to different continents!", when in reality, most people just would never go to other continents because the challenges of doing so were too high.

[caradoc2000]

...People still do that.

They do? Could have fooled me.

People need to take off their nostalgia goggles.

Can't do that. My eyesight is bad as it is.
 

I had to do all of that stuff, too, but let's not pretend that gaming hasn't exponentially improved from "back in those days". Unless you want to pretend that most Dreamcast/SNES/etc. games are in any way as expansive or intuitive as Far Cry 4 or Skyrim or ME2 or Inquisition. It's like complaining that "people are so lazy and just use cars and ships and planes to get everywhere now! In the good old days of yore you had to spend weeks voyaging across the sea to get to different continents!", when in reality, most people just would never go to other continents because the challenges of doing so were too high.

Gaming has improved, but have the gamers?

[Voragoras]

They do? Could have fooled me.

Can't do that. My eyesight is bad as it is.
 

Gaming has improved, but have the gamers?

 

Look at the extraordinary success of games like Dark Souls and Demon's Souls, and indie games that claim to be "tough but fair". It's obvious gamers still do that. Before, in ye olden daye of gaming, anyone who couldn't get 100% in Caprice Coins would've just gone "oh well" and moved on and never gotten them, or contacted a gaming hotline or looked for it in gaming magazines or cheat books. Now, they just Google it or ask online.

 

It's ridiculous to pretend that the relative difficulty of gathering information meant everyone played games fully and were committed and intense, when it's more likely that they would've just given up and stopped playing if it was story-required or they just moved on without completing it if it was optional. Either way, the quest is incomplete. The types of people who would've compulsively searched over and over and over to get 100% would still care enough about the process and principle to do so now.

 

Also, the visibility has increased. Because this is a forum, you can see people asking for help. Before, you couldn't see people privately buying gaming magazines or calling a gaming hotline.

 

And using "gamers" like that is a bit disingenuous, since the sample pool has improved with how cheap and easy it is to be a gamer now. It's become much more marketable, and so the number of people the label "gamer" applies to has increased, but I'm willing to bet whatever ratio you're talking about has remained static. It's also difficult to reply when you use such vague terms. What measures are you using for "improvement"? What do you refer to as a "gamer"?

[MasterSolo]

Annoyingly, those maps only have 14 caprice coins on them, and I found all of those, but I cannot find number 15 which is nowhere to be seen on those maps.  Kinda like how the players guide doesn't show the locations of all the mosaic pieces.  I feel I was kinda robbed on that purchase, though hopefully the digital copy will be updated to include the 15th caprice, or the game will receive an update to add in the missing caprice, or to drop the requirement down to 14.  I spent quite a few hours going through that palace inch by inch and I can say with a high degree of certainty that there is no 15th caprice, so it would probably be easier to lower the game requirement to 14.  There are two rooms that can only be accessed by a rogue inquisitor, so my next character will be a rogue, but I doubt that the last caprice would be in there.  That would be unfair to anyone that plays mages or warriors.  I am still very curious about those doors though.

 

With the maps I providd a link to the quest on wiki. There are 15 caprice coins. Really... google has it all.

[DarkShadowsAbove]

Yeah, I'm only seeing 14 on the maps and I counted 3 times as well as looking for partially hidden icons. If there's a 15th coin, the icon is missing on the map.

[Voragoras]

^ Click on the links he provided.

[DarkShadowsAbove]

Oh, I understand that the links have the location, but it's still not on the map, which was my point. Sorry if there was confusion about that.

[Voragoras]

^ Yeah, there are only 14 points on the map. I think with them respawning, and they do for me on PS4, it should be easy to get 15 in total.

[Pincey]

Spoiler

Seriously though, google has everything. All you need to do is use it.

http://dragonage.wik...wing_Away_Money

http://dragonage.wik..._of_Stone_Halla

http://dragonage.wik..._Blackmail_Hunt

 

 

Cool beans, thanks for this

[Fenris8]

Annoyingly, those maps only have 14 caprice coins on them, and I found all of those, but I cannot find number 15 which is nowhere to be seen on those maps.  Kinda like how the players guide doesn't show the locations of all the mosaic pieces.  I feel I was kinda robbed on that purchase, though hopefully the digital copy will be updated to include the 15th caprice, or the game will receive an update to add in the missing caprice, or to drop the requirement down to 14.  I spent quite a few hours going through that palace inch by inch and I can say with a high degree of certainty that there is no 15th caprice, so it would probably be easier to lower the game requirement to 14.  There are two rooms that can only be accessed by a rogue inquisitor, so my next character will be a rogue, but I doubt that the last caprice would be in there.  That would be unfair to anyone that plays mages or warriors.  I am still very curious about those doors though.

 

Wow you are so Pro! I didn't even find 5 haha. My first play is as elf warrior and now as mage. 

 

Now is my 3rd playthrough, after bugs been fixed. the most essential doors to open are the ones in the garden before climbing to the grand library right?