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lv13 Assassin Inq, lv12 Blackwall, Madame de Fer, Horned butch (got level-up during the fight from dragonlings). On hard.

 

As it should be fought, no cheesing with broken OP builds or AI bugging. Main tank should target the Frostback itself (it's head), not any of his appendexes otherwise it'll maneuver constantly making you have to maneuver your dps constantly. Stick to it's flanks and within melee range to avoid wing-buffet damage, run around in barrier during flight-bombing phases, pull dragonling aggro with IB when they pop mid fight, if dragon is on the perch, go under it to kill the adds. Tactical cam all the way and keep maneuvering your dps when the dragon moves around / jumps to change spot.

 

Exactly as I wrote it! Glad to see I'm not crazy! Also with picture!



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lv13 Assassin Inq, lv12 Blackwall, Madame de Fer, Horned butch (got level-up during the fight from dragonlings). On hard.

 

As it should be fought, no cheesing with broken OP builds or AI bugging.

 

If your Madame du Fer has Fade Shield, you've got an OP build in your party, even if it's not on your Inquisitor. ;) Fade Shield is so ****ing good.



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If your Madame du Fer has Fade Shield, you've got an OP build in your party, even if it's not on your Inquisitor. ;) Fade Shield is so ****ing good.

 

Her build is pretty much spirit? (the one with barrier & other buff stuff) / lightning. Her job is the fight was barriering folks and dispelling burning + auto-attack :) 



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God, after many tries I can still only get it slightly below 75%! On normal mode! Granted, I am only level 10, but 3/4 more levels can't make that much of a difference, right?

 

I have S&B Cassandra, Spirit Solas, andmostly Storm Dorian. I try to follow this guide as best I can, but I just keep on dying. Attacks barely seem to do any damage at all, plus my stupid archer inquisitor keeps on getting too close to the dragon. Also, the wing beat thing continues to decimate everyone but Solas, and that's only because of guardian spirit or whatever it's called. And whenever I need them, barrier/revival is on cd, or my mages are too low on mana.

 

I reeeaaaalllly want to kill this stupid thing. Hard to appreciate how "well done" and "epic" the dragon fights are when you die a few minutes in 100% of the time. I must be doing something very wrong. It's probably just me sucking at tough video game bosses as usual, I've never understood how on Earth you people do these things. I couldn't beat that stupid storm dragon in Awakening either, just ended up using the killallhostiles script (cheap, I know).



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God, after many tries I can still only get it slightly below 75%! On normal mode! Granted, I am only level 10, but 3/4 more levels can't make that much of a difference, right?
 
I have S&B Cassandra, Spirit Solas, andmostly Storm Dorian. I try to follow this guide as best I can, but I just keep on dying. Attacks barely seem to do any damage at all, plus my stupid archer inquisitor keeps on getting too close to the dragon. Also, the wing beat thing continues to decimate everyone but Solas, and that's only because of guardian spirit or whatever it's called. And whenever I need them, barrier/revival is on cd, or my mages are too low on mana.
 
I reeeaaaalllly want to kill this stupid thing. Hard to appreciate how "well done" and "epic" the dragon fights are when you die a few minutes in 100% of the time. I must be doing something very wrong. It's probably just me sucking at tough video game bosses as usual, I've never understood how on Earth you people do these things. I couldn't beat that stupid storm dragon in Awakening either, just ended up using the killallhostiles script (cheap, I know).


You would actually be surprised at how much those couple of levels actually mean. In my experience something 2 levels above you presents a very hard challenge. My suggestion woulf be to go to a different area and get a few levels, maybe some better drops. The "req. Levl 12" items are very strong in the game. Also, this dragon is not the easiest one in the world, despite its level.

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Use the tactical mode to make your tank stick on the dragons head. Melee dps attack legs. Easy win. I had Cassandra, sword and board as tank, Varric as ranged dps attacking legs, Vivinne as ranged dps and support and Inqusitor as melee dps attacking back legs. Cassandra could easly hold agro and tank the dragon while the rest did the damage.

 

Make shure they only use skills you need, like taunt and block for the tank, barrier and some attack spells for the mage. Disable skills that dont work against the dragons like stun, or that fighter grab thingy. Taunts should be prefered on the tank.

 

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FYI, this also works with a ranged Archer, but hey, I like to play the game  :lol: . If you want to cheese it I'm not really gonna stop you, but that's not really the point of this thread. It's intention is to help people beat it who may be struggling. What I will say is this, my sense of accomplishment after beating this beastie was very high. The feels were strong.

 

I have tried this with my Sera and Varric (both Archers) and they dealt no damage to him. On nightmare. I am not sure what does "Perception" means within dragon resistances list but I took it he is resilient to arrow?? (tried to nuke him from overpass where from you come)



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I have tried this with my Sera and Varric (both Archers) and they dealt no damage to him. On nightmare. I am not sure what does "Perception" means within dragon resistances list but I took it he is resilient to arrow?? (tried to nuke him from overpass where from you come)

 

"Perception" means he can detect stealth. The Archer thing is a range thing, your auto attack will not hit, but your abilities will. It would be a very, very slow way to kill the dragon. There may also be a sweet spot where you could use auto attacks, and not pull the Dragon. However, with that you may want to be prepared to fight it anyway.



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"Perception" means he can detect stealth. The Archer thing is a range thing, your auto attack will not hit, but your abilities will. It would be a very, very slow way to kill the dragon. There may also be a sweet spot where you could use auto attacks, and not pull the Dragon. However, with that you may want to be prepared to fight it anyway.

 

I got it .... had to switch my party to all melee + myself (mage) so I could nuke him from distance. Even when I turned off AI ranged characters kept running towards him and engaging the short-living battle.

 

I am just surprised that dragon disappeared quickly with nothing to loot. There were few chests with white things back in the yard but I expecting something useful.



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Here's how I defeated a dragon in Hinterlands and three others after it - soloed it with Knight Enchanter build. No struggles with dumb companions AI and controls. It was quite boring too, because they all use the same attack pattern and are quite the HP sponges. It's more a battle of attrition than anything else.



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Here's how I defeated a dragon in Hinterlands and three others after it - soloed it with Knight Enchanter build. No struggles with dumb companions AI and controls. It
was quite boring too, because they all use the same attack pattern and are quite the HP sponges. It's more a battle of attrition than anything else.



Yeah, sadly I'm going to have to agree with you. The AI is so terrible, combat is just frustrating and rarely fun. I'm really enjoying the game but combat is a burden. Really wish I could skip it all together.

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So once you kill this one, how do you get across to the other side of the burned out dock area? After using the mage to rebuild part of the dock, I can see a ladder on one of the higher levels that can be interacted with, but can't figure out how to get to it to see what's on top of the other platforms.



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If you're a high enough level, you can just mindlessly hack at its legs until it dies.

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I got it .... had to switch my party to all melee + myself (mage) so I could nuke him from distance. Even when I turned off AI ranged characters kept running towards him and engaging the short-living battle.

 

I am just surprised that dragon disappeared quickly with nothing to loot. There were few chests with white things back in the yard but I expecting something useful.

 

Well this may be a bug, the Dragon should have loot on his body. I have heard of rare instances where killing dragons via bugs (i.e. ranged bug) will cause him not to drop loot. However, you should have gotten loot. I would reload a save and try again  ;)



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Did this one at level, no exploits.

 

I thought this would be relevant instead of making a new post, I decided to put it here since I used a different party composition. I was able to do this guy on NiM Difficulty w/ a 2Hander, Tempest, Champion, and Knight Enchanter. I don't really like to use the tactics cam, but got more and more hectic as the fight went through. But hopefully this will help people also  ;) I also threw a random jar of bees at it because I ran out of ideas.

 

Don't watch the video if you don't want it to be spoiled, but I thought I'd share my experiences from a party not over the dragon's level. Difficulty and Character levels are shown at the end. The dragon xp leveled Sera and Cassandra to 12 afterwards though : /

 

I do not use the Tempest Infinite Ultimate Glitch nor do I use Cole's Mark of Death combo. As someone who has never played a DA:I game before, this is a great introduction to the series!

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=-V9wc6C-AGU

 

No Tempest Exploits, LvL composition is in the Video Description. Good luck everyone! This game is amazing!



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Well this may be a bug, the Dragon should have loot on his body. I have heard of rare instances where killing dragons via bugs (i.e. ranged bug) will cause him not to drop loot. However, you should have gotten loot. I would reload a save and try again  ;)

 

Damn, I though it is weird... I let my companions run towards him as I almost anticipated something like that but unfortunately I killed him before they got to him :(

 

I have played all day yesterday so no way to get it back. It is deserving, exposing stupid AI = no reward at all



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I just completed this fight at lvl 14 Nightmare, taking 2 tanks Cassandra and Blackwell. Also using 2 mages Solas rift, storm,  and spirit mage for barrier. Myself a storm, spirit mage, inquistior. Using the perk with the additional 4 potions from forces.

 

This fight was easy, the first attempt I failed because I played it in realtime, getting upto the add phase, but gaining an understanding of what to except.

 

Then I played it again using some tactical pauses and absolutely pawned.

 

The first thing to do is run to the boss area, get your ass to the chopper. Don't bother loittering on the small dragonlings previously to the next area where the dragon lands, otherwise they will likely drain potions, when getting hit from the boss aerial fireballs attack.

 

After getting up to the boss area have the tank's charge forward to engage with either front legs, making sure to avoid range fireballs prior to being in combat range, not standing in any fire which remains active on the ground. When the dragon wing bluffs attack, drawing all combat towards, make sure that any range dps have active barriers. Then those dps quickly retreat to a safe distance avoiding the dragons flame breath attack. If a ranged party member dies, don't bother reviving them until the boss flies away. The dragon at around 3/4 health will fly up into the air shooting fireballs, these are easily avoided, but make sure that any party members don't run through the flames which remain active on the ground. Go over to the right hand side under a ledge where the dragon perches on. This overcrop where your party is now directly underneath, means the dragon can't cast fireballs onto your party. During this time revive if necessary any fallen dps.

 

Phase 2 the same again, during the wing bluff attack, have active sheilds on any range dps then retreat, avoiding flame breath. This time when the dragon takes off at @1/2 health. It now perches on the left overcrop, avoid aerial fireballs and have your party stand underneath the left outcropping legde. In this phase the dragon will summon a few small dragonling adds @ 2-3, once these are dealt with quickly. The dragon lands.

 

Phase 3 during this phase the dragon ground stomps attack stuning the entire party, summoning lots of small dragonling adds @ 5. After dealing with those orignal 5 adds, more will periodically enter. Have a tank gather up the add's agro, using a rift from the inquistor talents to quickly pawn them. If lucky hitting the dragon aswell from that nuke. When the dragon files off, it flies to the north of the map landing in a new area. There will be dragonling adds attacking your party enroute to the northern hill, possibly a few on the north hill. The dragon remains there, if the party is on that hill they cannot be hit, onbly getting hit as they make the final elevated climb.

 

Phase 4 the dragon has landed in the north of the map, a new area with a landmark. Any small dragonling adds apart from those on the hill, don't pursue, after killing any adds on the actual northern hill. The dragon has about 10-15k hp remaining so an easy win, watching where any range stand, because this is a small enclosed area, where can get hit from various attacks.

 

 

The main things to watch out for. Making sure, the dps has active sheilds during the dragons wing bluff attack, range dps quickly moving away back to safe range's, avoiding the flame breath attack and any ground fire. Don't bother reviving fallen dps prior to the dragon flyingh away, perching onto the ledges, they will be a potion drain prior. Avoid aerial fireballs during the dragon's flight and any fire on the ground. Have an active rift for the add phase, have a tank collect the small dragonling adds which hasn't taunted prior, or they will likely get their ass toasted by dragon fire. Don't bother loittering in the main area with the small adds in the final phase, go to the north hill quickly, but pausing, regen'ing, clearing the north hill before making the final elevated climb. When making the final climb barrier the party, they will likely take a hit from a ranged dragon fireball attack, when they are assualting the final position.

 

An easy fight most of it was done in realtime, some tactical pausing for the add phase. My tanks never used a single potion. Solas was a potion consumer though, and a pain to keep him up, but his damage, second barrier, helped a little.



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My Inquisitor is a Dagger Tempest, level 12.  Rest of the crew is level 11.  I am playing on Hard.  Using Cassandra, Cole and Vivienne.  I can get the Dragon to the 25% phase but we always die running up the damn hill, and usually are out of health pots by then.  How do you unlock the third potion slot?  Is that an Inquisition Perk, because that would really help me out here, for sure.  I am using regen potions, should I switch to fire tonics?

 

Also, I am trying to exploit the KE stuff, but obviously not doing it right.  Just using Barrier, Fade Step and Spirit Blade, Vivienne still gets killed sometimes.



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HozzMidnight, you have answered your question the 3rd slot unlock is an Inquistion perk. There is a Forces perk that unlocks 4 additional heal potions.

 

In all honesty you are a little too low level to be killing this dragon which drops level 15 items. But then your game is on hard diff. Try swapping Cole for Blackwell in a tank spec and you should see this fight done alot easier. Dragons are likely immune to fire, try bees instead, there is also healing grenades. I haven't unlocked all the grenade recipies myself yet.

 

The hill, the final phase quickly run to the hill's first tier, not loittering in the big area killing remaining adds, and the dragon cannot hit you. Regen, killing any small dragonling adds that may have followed you, and are also possibly on the hill. Then make the final approach to the top tier, making sure you are barriered, because there is only a small point to run through to get to the dragon. Undoubtedly somebody will get hit by the dragon's range fireball attack, or they will stand in any ground fire from that blast. When ontop of the hill, arrange, any range away from the dragon because it is only a small area and they can easily get hit from indirect attack.


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HozzMidnight, you have answered your question the 3rd slot unlock is an Inquistion perk. There is a Forces perk that unlocks 4 additional heal potions.

 

In all honesty you are a little too low level to be killing this dragon which drops level 15 items. But then your game is on hard diff. Try swapping Cole for Blackwell in a tank spec and you should see this fight done alot easier. Dragons are likely immune to fire, try bees instead, there is also healing grenades. I haven't unlocked all the grenade recipies myself yet.

 

The hill, the final phase quickly run to the hill's first tier, not loittering in the big area killing remaining adds, and the dragon cannot hit you. Regen, killing any small dragonling adds that may have followed you, and are also possibly on the hill. Then make the final approach to the top tier, making sure you are barriered, because there is only a small point to run through to get to the dragon. Undoubtedly somebody will get hit by the dragon's range fireball attack, or they will stand in any ground fire from that blast. When ontop of the hill, arrange, any range away from the dragon because it is only a small area and they can easily get hit from indirect attack.

I was able to do it on Nightmare w/ 2 lvl 12's and 2 lvl 11's. 

 

My Inquisitor is a Dagger Tempest, level 12.  Rest of the crew is level 11.  I am playing on Hard.  Using Cassandra, Cole and Vivienne.  I can get the Dragon to the 25% phase but we always die running up the damn hill, and usually are out of health pots by then.  How do you unlock the third potion slot?  Is that an Inquisition Perk, because that would really help me out here, for sure.  I am using regen potions, should I switch to fire tonics?

 

Also, I am trying to exploit the KE stuff, but obviously not doing it right.  Just using Barrier, Fade Step and Spirit Blade, Vivienne still gets killed sometimes.

I would keep working on KE. It's not an automatic win class, especially at lower levels. That dragon will chunk your entire barrier if you're not careful.



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My friend was playing hard mode, and got pissed off that the AI companions kept dying. So what did he do? He decided to just tank the dragon, solo, on his sword n board inquisitor.

At level 10.

His basic strategy was so long as he blocked (the dragon gives away nearly all of its attacks) and ran underneath the dragon during its fire breath, he was good. So long as he blocked, he only took 1-2 damage from direct melee hits. He did his best to stand under the big guy, too. Sometimes he'd take hits and get knocked back, but his guard absorbed that damage for him.

 

The hard part was the dragonlings - his strategy was to just bull rush through them so they'd all be facing his front. He also used lunging strike both for damage and positioning.

 

Major factors, aside from knowing where to be at the right time, were that he pimped out his gear (~155 dps axe on his inq), and he had both the damage reduction passives on the tankity tree. (20% damage reduction from front, 50% damage reduction from ranged, no flank)

 

Screenies (I wish he got a vid):

 

http://imgur.com/zRY...xNg3q,AI70SDC#0
 

I may have gotten some details wrong, but still... that's one way to do it, I guess.



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Was doing great. Bought additional potions with a perk and now somehow I'm even worse off than before? Dragon is starting to use hax and shoot fireballs at me despite me being beneath him and out of vision. What a dick.



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Was doing great. Bought additional potions with a perk and now somehow I'm even worse off than before? Dragon is starting to use hax and shoot fireballs at me despite me being beneath him and out of vision. What a dick.

 

You for sure need to report this.

 

Just.....as a stupid question.....you are hiding under the cliff face the dragon is standing on right?



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Here's how I defeated a dragon in Hinterlands and three others after it - soloed it with Knight Enchanter build. No struggles with dumb companions AI and controls. It was quite boring too, because they all use the same attack pattern and are quite the HP sponges. It's more a battle of attrition than anything else.

 

That was my trick too :P

 

Well I wasn't trying to solo it, I just got tired of having to constantly move the AI out of the fire.