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Party Banter Silence/Near-Silence Glitch Thread [Update 11/30: An up-and-coming new workaround! And an OP design edit!]


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StElmo

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Nice isn't it.

 

I do keep banging on about it, but I think it's important: this seems to be save game related, for me. I do NOT get this music anymore. It is most definitely only playing with early saves. Has anyone else checked this with their characters?

 

send me a working music savegame and I'll see if I can load the music



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It feels like we are all doing the rain dance and assuming that it's our actions that are giving results rather than it just being random. Things like mounting/dismounting, quick traveling, resting, changing sound settings, etc...


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#1178
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Never heard that music in Val Royaux... sigh
Except from the intro.

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ButchHardPec

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The Western Approach is definitely silent for me (save for one or two exchanges). If someone could confirm that they get dialogue there it'd be a really good sign!

 

(Another dilemma, is it supposed to be quiet in certain regions and not others?—we don't know!) 



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Oh, I romance Blackwall too :wub:  but I never flirted with anyone else, doesn't flirting with others spoil the romance with him? He looks like someone who wouldn't appreciate very much that sort of woman to me, but perhaps the flirt dialogue options are not that compromising in the beginning? Actually I have a friend who is playing on pc who's getting a lot of banter and she flirted with the whole party at Haven, and then also with Dorian, her best friend.... perhaps we have found the key to unlock party banter? :D

 

 That's what I was thinking! :) 



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Grieving Natashina

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It feels like we are all doing the rain dance and assuming that it's our actions that are giving results rather than it just being random. Things like mounting/dismounting, quick traveling, resting, changing sound settings, etc...

I don't argue, but it does help possibly eliminate what isn't causing the issue.  I still suspect that something with the mount system is causing this, but damned if I know how.

 

I've been leery of putting too much stock into circumstance as well.  

 

Nice to see you, by the way!  <big hugs>


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You know you might be right. I just finished yesterday the Fade part and it was like playing a COMPLETLY different game. My party did not shut up for a moment and was constant banter. The Fade has no mount option. After it went into complete silence again

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I don't argue, but it does help possibly eliminate what isn't causing the issue.  I still suspect that something with the mount system is causing this, but damned if I know how.
 
I've been leery of putting too much stock into circumstance as well.  
 
Nice to see you, by the way!  <big hugs>


I started a new character and haven't even spoken to Master Dennet 15 hours in but I'm still getting long periods of silence.
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You know you might be right. I just finished yesterday the Fade part and it was like playing a COMPLETLY different game. My party did not shut up for a moment and was constant banter. The Fade has no mount option. After it went into complete silence again

 

I have this bug and during my playthrough I've used the mount only once or twice outside the farm racing quest.



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You know you might be right. I just finished yesterday the Fade part and it was like playing a COMPLETLY different game. My party did not shut up for a moment and was constant banter. The Fade has no mount option. After it went into complete silence again

Yes, but that was during a 'scripted' sequence. You can't travel out of the Fade until you get to the end, so there's a bunch of stuff happening. Generally, the party is chatty when it comes to triggering scripted events/main story quests.

 

(So this could or could not be related to mounts, since there might be a bunch of stuff happening.)



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I started a new character and haven't even spoken to Master Dennet 15 hours in but I'm still getting long periods of silence.

I think you misunderstood me.   :)

 

Perhaps the way the mount system is coded into the game is what is causing the issue.  

 

I'm shooting in the dark here, but I think something about the way the mount dismisses your party might have something to do with it.  I know it doesn't make a difference if you have a mount or not.  I hit about 10 hours before I got mine and I had a lot of silence as well.

 

Edit: I'm just guessing and I don't know about coding.  Again, just shooting in the dark and spit-balling ideas.  



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I feel I should warn you: I only have 4 characters, and only two of them are above level 2.  So I don't think that is gonna make a difference, but hey, try it anyways.  Let us know how it works.   :)
 
I also don't have the audio pack, same with several others, so please bare that in mind while you are testing.


Thanks for the update, I focus only on one character but actually I have quite a lot of savegames (apart from quick one) so I'd need to erase some them anyway ;)

I only mentioned the audio pack because I remember it being downloaded as DLC via origin. It looked pretty weird to me, to be honest ( I mean, we all probably have native audio Eng version anyway, with subtitles).

I also tried messing with gamefiles (data from disc no.4 in my case) but it didn't help. I did it only because this game is distributed by EA and such weird things happen in their case from time to time ---> i.e. I fixed the commentary in Fifa 15 that way a while ago.

Well, it seems the only solution will turn out to be "to wait" anyway ;)

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I'm chiming in too.  I rarely get any banter and at first I thought it was a design choice since the world is so vast. And there's hardly any backround music when exploring.

 

I'm on PS4, I finished the game clocking around 50 hours (I skipped a lot of the sidequest). I'm somewhat relieved, since after finishing the game my initial impression was, how I could not connect to any of my companions and exploring the world seemed kind of lonely. 

 

I really hope they would fix these soon. I'll wait for the patch before I start my completionist run.



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I think you misunderstood me.   :)
 
Perhaps the way the mount system is coded into the game is what is causing the issue.  
 
I'm shooting in the dark here, but I think something about the way the mount dismisses your party might have something to do with it.  I know it doesn't make a difference if you have a mount or not.  I hit about 10 hours before I got mine and I had a lot of silence as well.
 
Edit: I'm just guessing and I don't know about coding.  Again, just shooting in the dark and spit-balling ideas.


Fair enough, just trying to post as much info as possible. The only reason I started the playthrough was to test the mount hypothesis so I thought I should probably share my findings at some point! Though I'm actually quite happy with my new Inquisitor so at least that's one good thing I can take from this bug.
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Grieving Natashina

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Fair enough, just trying to post as much info as possible. The only reason I started the playthrough was to test the mount hypothesis so I thought I should probably share my findings at some point! Though I'm actually quite happy with my new Inquisitor so at least that's one good thing I can take from this bug.

Curses, out of likes.

 

Oh please keep on sharing your testing and ideas!  Every little bit helps and it's nice to meet yet another fan that is willing to work with the devs on the BSN.

 

I also feel the same way about my rerolled character as well.   My other upside is that I've gotten to know some really cool and constructive fans in here.  That gives a nice silver lining to an otherwise unfortunate bug/glitch/whatever that is driving the devs nuts.   :P


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Though I'm actually quite happy with my new Inquisitor so at least that's one good thing I can take from this bug.


I had the same feeling after creating my character once again due to gender bug, hah.
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I noticed now that I'm in the Emerald Graves the party banter is a lot more than in the Hinterlands. 



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Created a new character. Went directly to Val R.,as soon as i got enough power, - no music. Sigh. I still get some banter, but not too much, gotta test more today with new char.



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Whoa, that music in Val Wherever sounds awesome in that youtube clip. When I got to that part I got some music at the start for about 20 seconds but then it faded out. Rest of my time in that place was so quiet you could hear a rat pee on cotton.

 

I get the feeling the lack of music is related to the lack of banter somehow.

 

Do you guys think this is the sort of thing is going to take weeks for them to maybe fix?



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Wow! Yeah I don't get that at all such beautiful music!

Anyone else not getting this background music?

 

 

Wow that's awesome ! I can confirm I have never heard any music playing in Val Royaux.

 

I am starting to get paranoid and wondering what else I am missing. Missing companion convos, missing music ... I am now wondering if I am not missing something else I am not even realizing it at this points : dynamic events and quests for example. At some point (deliberately vague here as to not spoil too much), I overheard ambiant NPC conversation in Skyhold about strange events and could later ask Cole about those events. For what I can know, I could me missing quests and regular (non banter) conversations triggered by those dynamic events I am missing.   :wacko:



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Whoa, that music in Val Wherever sounds awesome in that youtube clip. When I got to that part I got some music at the start for about 20 seconds but then it faded out. Rest of my time in that place was so quiet you could hear a rat pee on cotton.

 

I get the feeling the lack of music is related to the lack of banter somehow.

 

Do you guys think this is the sort of thing is going to take weeks for them to maybe fix?

 

Probably, or longer. :/ It just seems like such a nebulous issue, and all anyone can really provide is anecdata. Hopefully this thread can help point the troubleshooting in the right direction. 



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Okay so no music or banter for me in val royeaux marketplace. Didnt think i had this issue but it seems i do depending on the location.

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Grieving Natashina

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Probably, or longer. :/ It just seems like such a nebulous issue, and all anyone can really provide is anecdata. Hopefully this thread can help point the troubleshooting in the right direction. 

That's my hope as well.   :)

 

I revise my earlier statement.   I'm starting to lean that this is some sort of internal audio issue that no amount of fiddling with the settings is going to help.  

 

I'm wondering if the folks that get the music in Val R. are getting banter consistently?  It seems so far like a lot of us that have the glitch don't get music in Val R.   If that's the case, there might be the first concrete link in the middle of all of this, with the audio.

 

I'll start.  I have the lack of banter and I don't get music in Val R.



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That's my hope as well. :)

I revise my earlier statement. I'm starting to lean that this is some sort of internal audio issue that no amount of fiddling with the settings is going to help.

I'm wondering if the folks that get the music in Val R. are getting banter consistently? It seems so far like a lot of us that have the glitch don't get music in Val R. If that's the case, there might be the first concrete link in the middle of all of this.

I'll start. I have the lack of banter and I don't get music in Val R.


I get banter in some areas but not val royeaux marketplace where i also lack music.

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I get banter in some areas but not val royeaux marketplace where i also lack music.

 

Very sparse banter, no music in Val Royaux