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[Clairvauxe]

All these steps are placebo. You're not "fixing" anything; you're just getting lucky.... <He knows what he's saying.. Guys please replicate your workaround to consistently have banter, so there's actually a definite way to resolve the banter bug.  

 

Banter should occur every 10 mins this has been established as fact by Bioware, Allan Schumacher, additionally if you look at Page 1, JeffZero tweeted John Epler about it. Which John  stated that it sounded like a scripting issue. 

 

 

There is no clear solution for users to fully resolve this banter bug on our own.. 

[Ceratius]

alright. i have returned with some interesting results.

 

first of all, i have a recurring problem with the main menu of dragon age inquisition, which is to say: about half of the time, it lags horrendously, to the point where sometimes i have to kill it with task manager. thus, the easiest way for me to get into the game is to click the continue button and go from there -- i'll be the first to admit my computer isn't very powerful, but it runs in game with only a little lag at 30-40 fps. not sure if this is important, but w/e, there it is.

 

so this time i had to click the continue button. i loaded into my 40+ hr save in the exalted plains, which is where it gets a bit weird. i loaded into what appeared to be an ongoing varric/cassandra conversation about hawke -- and last time i loaded into the exalted plains i ended up in the midst of a dorian/cassandra convo. but continuing on, here are my results; i checked all the entries in the journal off last time i booted the game, not this time.

 

bear in mind through this whole thing i'm getting pretty regular combat music in fights, and a good amount of combat taunts from my companions.

 

8:53 - Loaded 40+ hour Exalted Plains save with male Qunari mage Inquisitor in the middle of Varric and Cassandra banter. Cassandra comments on the environment as soon as it's over.

8:54 - Loaded 4+ hour Hinterlands save with a different male Qunari mage Inquisitor.

8:59 - Music plays.

9:00 - Cassandra and Solas banter.

9:01 - Advanced to Inquisiton rank 2 after finishing the "Safeguards Against Looters" quest. Checked the journal, and I didn't get another 'quest completed' popup afterwards.

9:02 - Music plays.

9:04 - Music plays.

9:05 - Cassandra and Solas banter.

9:06 - Finished the "Trouble With Wolves" quest. Checked the journal, it popped up as completed again.

9:08 - Saved.

9:09 - Completed the "Failed to Deliver" quest. No additional completion popup when I checked the journal.

9:10 - Music plays.

9:11 - Cassandra comments "People here should leave the area, it's too dangerous." I found this particularly odd because she said much the same thing before and Varric responded, but this time he didn't.

9:12 - Music plays.

9:14 - Music plays.

9:20 - Music plays. I closed a fade rift at this point, which finished the "Rifts on the Outskirts" quest, and when I checked the journal I didn't get another quest completed popup.

9:23 - Music plays.

9:26 - Music plays.

 

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9:27 - Loaded Exalted Plains save into Cassandra and Dorian banter that seemed to be already going by the time it was loaded, just as it had done the last two times. Immediately after, I got Varric and Cassandra banter.

9:28 - Music plays.

9:30 - Music plays.

9:33 - Music plays.

9:36 - Dorian and Cassandra banter. Very clearly a continuation of their banter at 9:27.

9:37 - Traveled to Val Royeaux. Still no music there, unfortunately.

 

this is going exclusively on the journal fix, and from what i remember before i was getting maybe one banter every two hours on average. this feels a lot more right to me -- i think the fact that i didn't have another banter with solas/cassandra/varric may be because i hadn't even done the main quest you're assigned right before heading into the hinterlands.

 

so this is two hours it's worked for me. just my two cents for right now

[JeffZero]

Well, I just read Conal's post.

Commencing the pouring of the rum.

[pretzelbacon]

I actually tried changing it to French last night! Didn't help for me.    I'm all about experimentation though, I think it's good to eliminate everything that *doesn't* fix the problem. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Well, I just read Conal's post.

Commencing the pouring of the rum.

Before you drink too heavily, he did have a follow up post in that thread.

[pretzelbacon]

Well, I just read Conal's post.

Commencing the pouring of the rum.

 

Read his follow-up post as well..

[PogueMT]

Chiming in to say I'm having this bug too, playing on Win 8 PC with everything updated. I'm 70+ hours in and until now I didn't realise some areas (like Val Royeaux and Skyhold) were supposed to have music, so far I've had maybe 16 banters total, six of them coming all in a rush during a red lyrium related quest, some of them repeats. I do get combat barks if that has any bearing on the whole mess but no music.

 

I've tried all the workarounds mentioned in the official BW thread with no joy, so right now it's just my lonely little elf running around the pretty landscape convinced her companions hate her and each other

[Cindee]

What in the hell...? I just loaded my severely glitched save (I happened to have saved in the Forbidden Oasis), and when it loaded, Dorian and Solas were immediately mid-banter. Dorian was mid-word, in fact.  As far as I can see it, when I last saved there and exited the game, they must have been mid-banter without me knowing at all - there were no subtitles appearing, their icons weren't lit up with the little comment box, no audio. Nothing.

 

So it WAS triggering the entire time? Just completely silently, minus subtitles/icon triggers. Has anyone had anything like this? (Normally any banter I have had has been in a logical order, as far as I can see? I didn't think I was getting 

 

Again, this is my Forbidden Oasis save, 2hrs plus there, no banter/music in this save, no matter who I take or how long they spent together.

[claudia]

Just an update on changing drives - no luck, I wandered around a few different places with different parties and nothing. It was a long shot, and I have no doubt it's a scripting issue and we're just going to have to wait for Bioware or some beautiful fan savant to fix it for us. Sadly, I feel like I'm still waiting for the game to be released, again. I feel like with a map this vast it's a pretty important issue, but I do have faith they'll fix it - the voice acting for banter alone would have cost way too much to have such a large part of the player base missing it. 

[Ceratius]

What in the hell...? I just loaded my severely glitched save (I happened to have saved in the Forbidden Oasis), and when it loaded, Dorian and Solas were immediately mid-banter. Dorian was mid-word, in fact.  As far as I can see it, when I last saved there and exited the game, they must have been mid-banter without me knowing at all - there were no subtitles appearing, their icons weren't lit up with the little comment box, no audio. Nothing.

 

So it WAS triggering the entire time? Just completely silently, minus subtitles/icon triggers. Has anyone had anything like this? (Normally any banter I have had has been in a logical order, as far as I can see? I didn't think I was getting 

 

Again, this is my Forbidden Oasis save, 2hrs plus there, no banter/music in this save, no matter who I take or how long they spent together.

 

yes. this happened to me on my last test -- people were already talking when i loaded, but i can't believe that they were talking silently the entire time...did they say anything else when you walked around afterwards like the banter was working?

[Cindee]

Actually, scratch that, someone just posted the same thing in the new Party Banter thread. Never had that happen before. (Wish I could edit posts!)

[JeffZero]

Haha, yeah, I saw the follow-up, too. Don't worry, the rum won't be too heavy.

Argh, though. I dreaded this. It just makes no sense at all. We've seen videos of how it should be. We've had friends come to our houses and comment on how much quieter our files are compared to theirs. Many of us could go several dozen hours in complete silence before we started playing with our burgeoning list of work-arounds. And yet... nothing wrong on their end despite all the testing.

Seven hells.

[Kyote]

Another night of fruitless testing. I tried the journal trick, the audio trick, having them rest, moving in and out of areas, changing people, no luck. Oh wait, ONCE in + hours, Sera and vivienne bantered again. It's as if my game decided theirs is the only banter I get.

[Persephone]

Guys, I have banter!!!
And music after 70 hours silence. I did what above poster suggested, turned everything down connected to online AND cleaned my journal and codex log! Got the double drum for finishing earlier quests and got a huge update on my codex because of that. Then I checked all journal and codex log to be sure all showed no new one.

Right away got music , banter for most places. Will check if everywhere is ok or not and how long it lasts.

 

Bolding by me. How do you clean your journal & codex log? I neeeeeed to know!

[Cindee]

yes. this happened to me on my last test -- people were already talking when i loaded, but i can't believe that they were talking silently the entire time...did they say anything else when you walked around afterwards like the banter was working?

 

Less than a minute later, they bantered again. First time it was about The Big Bad Spoiler Character+Tevinter, second time Solas was commenting Dorian was a bit flashy. I think you're right, there doesn't seem to be any silent banter. Never been able to get those two to talk before, never gotten banter in the Oasis before.

The only thing I did differently, is that I'd been using another character with a less glitched (music/combat soundset works fine) save last time I used my glitchier game. Baffled if one could fix another, though.

(Any yes, I know we're all just flinging things at the wall and seeing what sticks, but it's all we can really do at the moment.)

[Alya_]

 

if you are truly committed to fixing this bug yet you can't recreate it to make a proper study (which is understandable) i suggest that you contact players who suffer from this issue & who live near your studio and actually go to their place of residence and try the game on their hardware, and conduct a research from there

 

just a thought, i know it's a lot of work but we deserve it.. don't we?

 

 

 

http://forum.bioware...4#entry17906012

 

Those on Edmonton, Montreal, Austin; insist on this, make them test the game and conduct their research from your hardwares

[TEWR]

I've got the glitch as well. It sucks ass. I've been playing for the last few days and barely heard a peep out of companions (maybe one banter every thirty minutes). At first I began to think companion banter trigger areas, like DAO and DAII had, were very spread apart... but nah.

[eZet]

I've been following this thread for a while, having the same problems, and something just occurred to me. On several occasions, I have found "Explore" actions, that when interacted with, do absolutely nothing. Usually, the main character or one of my companions say something regarding them, but other times, the interaction point just disappears with nothing else happening. I'm pretty sure there should be dialog related to these? And as I think back of it now, it usually happens after long stretches of banter silence, could it be related ?

 

I usually get 2-5 banters within my first 60-90 minutes of play, and then it drastically tapers off the longer I play.

[pretzelbacon]

Haha, yeah, I saw the follow-up, too. Don't worry, the rum won't be too heavy.

Argh, though. I dreaded this. It just makes no sense at all. We've seen videos of how it should be. We've had friends come to our houses and comment on how much quieter our files are compared to theirs. Many of us could go several dozen hours in complete silence before we started playing with our burgeoning list of work-arounds. And yet... nothing wrong on their end despite all the testing.

Seven hells.

 

Eh, go for the rum! You deserve it for getting attention to this issue.   I'm certainly not holding back on the wine this eve!

[Ceratius]

I've been following this thread for a while, having the same problems, and something just occurred to me. On several occasions, I have found "Explore" actions, that when interacted with, do absolutely nothing. Usually, the main character or one of my companions say something regarding them, but other times, the interaction point just disappears with nothing else happening. I'm pretty sure there should be dialog related to these? And as I think back of it now, it usually happens after long stretches of banter silence, could it be related ?

 

I usually get 2-5 banters within my first 60-90 minutes of play, and then it drastically tapers off the longer I play.

 

same exact kind of banter i got. that's why i thought it had something to do with the journal, and maybe it does for me...i'll have to play more tomorrow. i guess the explore actions could be a problem -- but i haven't seen them or had them do that, and for all of us to have this exact same problem suggests there must be some sort of trigger everyone experiences. just wish we knew what it was

[melky_way]

Wait, there is background music in Val Royeaux? And anywhere for more than something like thirty seconds max? And here I was, cramping up the volume regularly because I couldn't hear the ambiant noises well.

[Bonesie]

Just an update on changing drives - no luck, I wandered around a few different places with different parties and nothing. It was a long shot, and I have no doubt it's a scripting issue and we're just going to have to wait for Bioware or some beautiful fan savant to fix it for us. Sadly, I feel like I'm still waiting for the game to be released, again. I feel like with a map this vast it's a pretty important issue, but I do have faith they'll fix it - the voice acting for banter alone would have cost way too much to have such a large part of the player base missing it. 

That's unfortunate, I thought I might've been onto something.   Thanks for trying though!

It really does seem like it's all just coincidence. None of the workarounds can be repeated accurately, and it feels completely random when something does work...it's bizarre!

[eZet]

same exact kind of banter i got. that's why i thought it had something to do with the journal, and maybe it does for me...i'll have to play more tomorrow. i guess the explore actions could be a problem -- but i haven't seen them or had them do that, and for all of us to have this exact same problem suggests there must be some sort of trigger everyone experiences. just wish we knew what it was

I didn't imply that the exploration actions are causing it in any way. But if others are also experiencing silence when interacting with these 'Explore' points, it can help scope and pinpoint the bug. 

[Knoftvar]

After much frustration I changed my desktop shortcut to run as administrator and the music has been playing and banter working! Only been 1/2 an hour of playing but that is longer than the music has ever played for me and I don't want to sit on something that may work. Apologies if someone else has mentioned this already. 

[ardarn]

Bolding by me. How do you clean your journal & codex log? I neeeeeed to know!

Read every single entry in codex, journal and inventory till in there is nothing unread/ untouched in the whole menu.