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#76
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Honestly, I would love if it turns out that The Maker is a tyrannical and Jealous Demiurge-type god who has been playing out the forgotten ones and the creators against one-another to secure an non-threatened place on the top of the pyramid.


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Pretty sure they're never going to address whether the Maker is real or not. Not even the spirits know. They're probably just going to keep putting on more layers, and in the end it'll be up to the individual player to decide whether they think he's real or not.


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I personally see the Maker as fate/destiny. It's there, does thing and everyone is under his rule, but it's not good or evil. It's just there.


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I don't think Solas is a real god though, just a very powerful ancient elf. It's been hinted throughout the story that there is a big difference between how legends are told and how they actually happened. The Inquisitor herself is an excellent example of this. Walking around with a glowing hand will make for some impressive murals in the coming ages.

It's also interesting to note that a lot of these stories about the Dread Wolf originate from a society with different values than most of current Thedas. For example, Tevinter is regarded as an amoral society by most people in Orlais and Ferelden yet it turns out the Ancient elves lived in a similar society where people had slaves and Blood magic wasn't as bad. Solas comes across as an introvert who sees live in 50 shades of grey and is always curious to learn new things, willing to change an opinion when proven wrong. Qualities that would probably not make him a great supporter of the old ways
 

A codex entry about the Dread Wolf says " There is precious little we know about Fen'Harel, for they say he did not care for our people. Elgar'nan and Mythal created the world as we know it, Andruil taught us the Ways of the Hunter, Sylaise and June gave us fire and crafting, but Fen'Harel kept to himself and plotted the betrayal of all the gods.

 

The legend says that before the fall of Arlathan, the gods we know and revere fought an endless war with others of their kind. There is not a hahren among us who remembers these others: Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence. In ancient times, only Fen'Harel could walk without fear among both our gods and the Forgotten Ones, for although he is kin to the gods of the People, the Forgotten Ones knew of his cunning ways and saw him as one of their own.

 

And that is how Fen'Harel tricked them. Our gods saw him as a brother, and they trusted him when he said that they must keep to the heavens while he arranged a truce. And the Forgotten Ones trusted him also when he said he would arrange for the defeat of our gods, if only the Forgotten Ones would return to the abyss for a time. They trusted Fen'Harel, and they were all of them betrayed. And Fen'Harel sealed them away so they could never again walk among the People.

 

To me this actually sounds very similar to the mage/templar conflict in DA2 and DAI. Both sides have great power, are dangerous and neither of them is right. If at some point in the game, the Inquisitor was given the option to get rid of both threats by taking away their power, I think quite a few players would have chosen that option and it would probably have resulted in similar legends :)


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I don't think Solas is a real god though, just a very powerful ancient elf. It's been hinted throughout the story that there is a big difference between how legends are told and how they actually happened. The Inquisitor herself is an excellent example of this. Walking around with a glowing hand will make for some impressive murals in the coming ages.

It's also interesting to note that a lot of these stories about the Dread Wolf originate from a society with different values than most of current Thedas. For example, Tevinter is regarded as an amoral society by most people in Orlais and Ferelden yet it turns out the Ancient elves lived in a similar society where people had slaves and Blood magic wasn't as bad. Solas comes across as an introvert who sees live in 50 shades of grey and is always curious to learn new things, willing to change an opinion when proven wrong. Qualities that would probably not make him a great supporter of the old ways
 

A codex entry about the Dread Wolf says " There is precious little we know about Fen'Harel, for they say he did not care for our people. Elgar'nan and Mythal created the world as we know it, Andruil taught us the Ways of the Hunter, Sylaise and June gave us fire and crafting, but Fen'Harel kept to himself and plotted the betrayal of all the gods.

 

The legend says that before the fall of Arlathan, the gods we know and revere fought an endless war with others of their kind. There is not a hahren among us who remembers these others: Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence. In ancient times, only Fen'Harel could walk without fear among both our gods and the Forgotten Ones, for although he is kin to the gods of the People, the Forgotten Ones knew of his cunning ways and saw him as one of their own.

 

And that is how Fen'Harel tricked them. Our gods saw him as a brother, and they trusted him when he said that they must keep to the heavens while he arranged a truce. And the Forgotten Ones trusted him also when he said he would arrange for the defeat of our gods, if only the Forgotten Ones would return to the abyss for a time. They trusted Fen'Harel, and they were all of them betrayed. And Fen'Harel sealed them away so they could never again walk among the People.

 

To me this actually sounds very similar to the mage/templar conflict in DA2 and DAI. Both sides have great power, are dangerous and neither of them is right. If at some point in the game, the Inquisitor was given the option to get rid of both threats by taking away their power, I think quite a few players would have chosen that option and it would probably have resulted in similar legends :)

 

Well, I regard Solas as a god in the same way the Tribunal were gods in Morrowind - immortal and immensely powerful. It would actually be quite unexciting in a next DA game to discover they were "just elves with shiny powers", but who knows what Bioware will come up with Solas. Although there is some truth to the Dalish myths - like Elgar'nan's sun symbology. I think there was a mosaic of him holding down the sun in his right hand with a vengeful look. At least the Dalish got the names right :D



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I don't think Solas is a real god though, just a very powerful ancient elf. It's been hinted throughout the story that there is a big difference between how legends are told and how they actually happened. The Inquisitor herself is an excellent example of this. Walking around with a glowing hand will make for some impressive murals in the coming ages.
 

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To me this actually sounds very similar to the mage/templar conflict in DA2 and DAI. Both sides have great power, are dangerous and neither of them is right. If at some point in the game, the Inquisitor was given the option to get rid of both threats by taking away their power, I think quite a few players would have chosen that option and it would probably have resulted in similar legends :)

 

For the first part, half of Cassandra's dialogs (and a few of her banter) are less or more how history is crap are remembering what really happens and distorting fact. She also has some banter with Solas about how what shows up in the Fade is also distorted and he comments that it's not unlike people's memories. Basically, legends have a bit of truth to them, but they are greatly exaggerated and distorted through time.

 

 

For the last paragraph, when I was reading the Oasis's codex entries it made me think that Thedas's past is a string of the same events happening over and over again...and it wouldn't surprise me at this point if that was the case.


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For people discussing who absorbed who, if you go into Solas' room in Skyhold after the ending the final part of the wall has been painted. It shows a wolf standing over a dragon that has a sword in it, I'm guessing this depicts him and Flemeth.


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Just to get it out of my system:

 

"By the Dread Wolf! Why is my house always such a mess when people are here!? It's clean sometimes I swear."

<3 :wub:



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the whole dread wolf and mythal revelation in the last mission is really intriging hopefully we won't have to wait until DA4 to find out
I want a post ending dlc like Witch Hunt or even an expansion like awakening


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i agree with some others that the elven gods were not divine.  Maybe the elven "gods" (and, therefore, Solas/Fen'Haral) were just powerful immortal elven magic users who attained a kind of demigod status among their people that grew to a god-like status during their centuries-long slumber.



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Solas is pretty coy about the the relationship of the Old Gods to Elves, as well. When you talk to him about Corypheus and his being able to control the dragon, he surmises that the orb gave him that ability "incidentally" - "as a connection between the Old Gods and the Ancient Elves is never mentioned in the lore". Knowing what we know by the end of the game, I think it's safe to say that there is a connection.



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I just can't see Solas as evil. Though who is ever thinking they are evil? I see him carrying a huge weight, in my eyes he feels shame and guilt over something he did or could have prevented and he wants to set things right. I rewatched that scene repeatedly, and I don't see him as evil. Probably due to my perspective.

In my book he was more surprised. Flemeth is more sad, but I don't think she was not prepared for what came. I think Solas was less prepared.

I still don't see why Solas would have been so careful with the body if he just wanted the soul. Just steal the soul, and drop the body and prepare for the power to storm through him.

 

I also like the conversation with Cole after Solas severed romantic ties with the character. Cole has pretty sharp eyes and he talks about the reasons why Solas did what he did, and Solas just cuts the scene short saying: this wound you can not heal.

 

I also noticed, the text in the epilogue starts with this:
'It is said that Corypheus woke after his long slumber and found the world gone awry

he fought to bring back those days of  magic and shadow, to raise himself as a god, and set things right."

Aside from a part, it felt like talking about Solas: 'he woke after his long slumber and found the world gone awry, he fought to bring back those days and set things right'

 

He always was introvert, apparently, but he has taken on a lots of burdens and tasks, and those are crushing him, making him do wrong decisions. Still, I don't see him killing Flemeth. He is obsessed with setting things free after all.

 

I am curious to see what more we learn.


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I can't see them killing off flemeth so suddenly, feels like too much of a waste after they've built up her character troughout the games.



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For the first part, half of Cassandra's dialogs (and a few of her banter) are less or more how history is crap are remembering what really happens and distorting fact. She also has some banter with Solas about how what shows up in the Fade is also distorted and he comments that it's not unlike people's memories. Basically, legends have a bit of truth to them, but they are greatly exaggerated and distorted through time.

 

 

For the last paragraph, when I was reading the Oasis's codex entries it made me think that Thedas's past is a string of the same events happening over and over again...and it wouldn't surprise me at this point if that was the case.

 

THE CYCLE MUST CONTINUE


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Solas is pretty coy about the the relationship of the Old Gods to Elves, as well. When you talk to him about Corypheus and his being able to control the dragon, he surmises that the orb gave him that ability "incidentally" - "as a connection between the Old Gods and the Ancient Elves is never mentioned in the lore". Knowing what we know by the end of the game, I think it's safe to say that there is a connection.

 

Old Gods are smarter dragons than normal due to being the Forgotten Ones' souls put into dragons, for the sake of ensuring power over Thedas (which ended once they goaded the magisters to enter the Golden City)?

 

Just spitballing.



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Here's what I think I think.

 

The elven gods weren't truly gods. Maybe they were powerful mages or powerful nobles. But they had god-like status, which is enough. They ruled over their subjects/worshippers/slaves in a not-great way - Creators and Forgotten Ones alike - and Solas alone out of the "gods" (imagine inverted commas at every other mention of gods for the rest of this lol) didn't approve of or appreciate it. He wanted the People to be free from tyrants essentially. He thought he had a good idea and the only way - tricking both sides of gods and sealing them away (in a realm beyond, reached by Eluvians) - all but Mythal, for she was murdered and wanted vengeance, so they worked together in their plot. So he did it and then fell into slumber, probably because he was sad about being alone (all alone having sealed the rest of his kind away, all but Mythal obviously).

 

Long after, he woke up from uthenera. He saw how the elves are living now thanks to having lost their Creators - enslaved in Tevinter, subjugated in alienages, disliked by humans, or wandering the wilds as but shadows of their former glory, clinging to scraps of the past and mistaken information. Thanks to what he's done they've lost virtually everything, their history, their power, their culture. He regrets sorely what he did.

 

Morrigan tells us the Eluvians can be opened/locked from both sides and each has a key, didn't she? The elven orb was the key to the Eluvian in which Solas sealed the gods away. When he woke up and saw what his actions had done to the elves, he resolved to fix his mistake and release the gods. But he didn't have enough power to activate the orb and so he gave it to Cory, because he had enough power to use it. This as we know inadvertently caused the explosion.

 

It's kind of ironic because Cory too awoke from slumber and found the world gone awry.

 

Solas joins the Inquisition to fix this second great mistake. They do - they seal the Breach and defeat Cory. But the orb lies broken and Solas is distraught because it's the key to releasing the others.

 

He returns to Mythal. He should pay the price for his mistakes, and/or the "price" of what will be needed now to open the Eluvian - sacrifice of a being of great power perhaps? But the elves, he thinks they need him. His intentions now are to find another way to carry out his plans of unleashing the gods again.

 

I'm not clear on what happens in the final scene. Either Flemeth is sorry because of what she's about to do him - possess his body - or he's sorry for failing and for what HE'S about to do which is kill Flemeth and take her power. This power will help him in his quest to unleash the gods and Flemeth isn't truly dead because 1) she's Flemeth, powerful, a DA staple and 2) she probably has another Horcrux thing somewhere.

 

I have read many theories but this takes the cake by far, well thought out and makes ALOT of sense and if you are right this would explain ALOT of why solas is the way he is.

 

Honestly good stuff and this would also be by far the coolest scenario in my opinion, i hope they release a DLC, because i kind of want DA4 to be in tevinter.


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For people discussing who absorbed who, if you go into Solas' room in Skyhold after the ending the final part of the wall has been painted. It shows a wolf standing over a dragon that has a sword in it, I'm guessing this depicts him and Flemeth.

 

And this finalized my opinion that solas is the mastermind and wants to undo his mistake of trapping the gods because when he woke up from his slumber he realized the state he put the elves in by doing so...



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And this finalized my opinion that solas is the mastermind and wants to undo his mistake of trapping the gods because when he woke up from his slumber he realized the state he put the elves in by doing so...

I agree with you that is what he plans. Of course I do not think its his fault that the elves reached this state its more of a combination of elves not being warlike and more pacifist and the humans being the other way around.



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For people discussing who absorbed who, if you go into Solas' room in Skyhold after the ending the final part of the wall has been painted. It shows a wolf standing over a dragon that has a sword in it, I'm guessing this depicts him and Flemeth.

 

Is that a wolf? It doesn't really look like the other wolves on the paintings (it's nose is rounded and not flat/pointy, it looks like it might have belly plates/scales, it doesn't have a single ear, it's foot is a weird club). I'm not saying it is definitely not a wolf, just that I think it's not totally clear that it is either.



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Funny how this major plot point is buried away in the ending. Last boss fight, companion reunion party at Skyhold, epilogue, credits, and then finally you get this and it totally blows your mind.

 

I hope there will be another game that covers the return of the Elven gods. Hell, I wouldn't mind having an Inquisition trilogy. Origins to Inquisition was a weird trilogy because all 3 games are so different from each other, but if they redo starting with Inquisition and have an Inquisition 2 and 3 then it would be a lot more focused because Inquisition is a great foundation that they can build on. Kind of like the Mass Effect trilogy, where the combat and story did not change completely midway through and things were kept nice and focused (*coughcough*until the ending*cough*)



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Funny how this major plot point is buried away in the ending. Last boss fight, companion reunion party at Skyhold, epilogue, credits, and then finally you get this and it totally blows your mind.

 

I hope there will be another game that covers the return of the Elven gods. Hell, I wouldn't mind having an Inquisition trilogy. Origins to Inquisition was a weird trilogy because all 3 games are so different from each other, but if they redo starting with Inquisition and have an Inquisition 2 and 3 then it would be a lot more focused because Inquisition is a great foundation that they can build on. Kind of like the Mass Effect trilogy, where the combat and story did not change completely midway through and things were kept nice and focused (*coughcough*until the ending*cough*)

Well they have said Dragon age is more about thedas not the story of a protagonist.

 

So in that logic they could make a rts and it could still be part of the saga.  :lol:



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Hmmm restarting and looking around.

 

It is true that Fen'Harel locked up the old gods or forgotten ones as well as his brethren.

So if he does attempt to bring them back will he not bring them both back?

Also won't both parties want to kick him in the nuts for this?

 

Cory says that he whent to the golden/black city and it was empty.

But it does mean that there was a seat or a throne or atleast something.

Humans believe in the maker and the elves creators...

So can't it be that there is 1 god who did all this in the first place?

Also if i am correct aren't the humans and so on the second creation?

So is it that the first creation were the ancient elves and or old gods?

 

I am sorry if its confusing but just wanted to throw out questions/ideas in hope that some people want to like either clarify or maybe speculate with me :D.

 

Abelas says that the elves destroyed their civilizations.

Was it because the elven gods were gone/tricked?

Could it be that there maybe were 2 civilizations?

1 the elves and 1 for the old gods or am i wrong?

I mean the elves fought the tevinter, and for me it's weird that a civilization so advanced lost to...''humans''.

Even if the humans got aid from the old gods, the elves have been at it for decades?

Were they weakend or did most of the hide... or go into slumber?

Damn i need to go back and read more lore :P.

 

This is so fun, damn it.

 

Nice speculations everyone my mind has been going rampant with ideas hahaha amazing.

 

Edit : ALSO did you guys see Flemeth put the Old god soul from Kiran into the Eluvian?

Why would she do that? did she need the power? Was she releasing the power? was it a KEY TO SOMEWHERE?



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Anyone else replay the game only to notice all the subtle hints that Solas isn't telling you the whole story? Like for example,I just started my second playthrough and the first party banter I get after bring Iron Bull on the team is IB noticing how Solas's magic isn't the same as any of the other mages he has seen and that even if he is self-taught, that would leave some sort of clunk in his technique. Solas get's defensive, stating that he wouldn't know/understand since he doesn't study magic. God Dammit Bull, you had It all along.


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Here's what I think I think.

 

The elven gods weren't truly gods. Maybe they were powerful mages or powerful nobles. But they had god-like status, which is enough. They ruled over their subjects/worshippers/slaves in a not-great way - Creators and Forgotten Ones alike - and Solas alone out of the "gods" (imagine inverted commas at every other mention of gods for the rest of this lol) didn't approve of or appreciate it. He wanted the People to be free from tyrants essentially. He thought he had a good idea and the only way - tricking both sides of gods and sealing them away (in a realm beyond, reached by Eluvians) - all but Mythal, for she was murdered and wanted vengeance, so they worked together in their plot. So he did it and then fell into slumber, probably because he was sad about being alone (all alone having sealed the rest of his kind away, all but Mythal obviously).

 

Long after, he woke up from uthenera. He saw how the elves are living now thanks to having lost their Creators - enslaved in Tevinter, subjugated in alienages, disliked by humans, or wandering the wilds as but shadows of their former glory, clinging to scraps of the past and mistaken information. Thanks to what he's done they've lost virtually everything, their history, their power, their culture. He regrets sorely what he did.

 

Morrigan tells us the Eluvians can be opened/locked from both sides and each has a key, didn't she? The elven orb was the key to the Eluvian in which Solas sealed the gods away. When he woke up and saw what his actions had done to the elves, he resolved to fix his mistake and release the gods. But he didn't have enough power to activate the orb and so he gave it to Cory, because he had enough power to use it. This as we know inadvertently caused the explosion.

 

It's kind of ironic because Cory too awoke from slumber and found the world gone awry.

 

Solas joins the Inquisition to fix this second great mistake. They do - they seal the Breach and defeat Cory. But the orb lies broken and Solas is distraught because it's the key to releasing the others.

 

He returns to Mythal. He should pay the price for his mistakes, and/or the "price" of what will be needed now to open the Eluvian - sacrifice of a being of great power perhaps? But the elves, he thinks they need him. His intentions now are to find another way to carry out his plans of unleashing the gods again.

 

I'm not clear on what happens in the final scene. Either Flemeth is sorry because of what she's about to do him - possess his body - or he's sorry for failing and for what HE'S about to do which is kill Flemeth and take her power. This power will help him in his quest to unleash the gods and Flemeth isn't truly dead because 1) she's Flemeth, powerful, a DA staple and 2) she probably has another Horcrux thing somewhere.

 

That's an interesting idea, however, with Levallan romances, he pretty much hinted that he cannot be with her, because then it will wake up the 'others', and that he cannot allow. But with his talk with Flemmeth, it seems that he will need to do something, possibly something that would change the whole world. And he have to do it alone. I'm not sure what happens between Flemmeth and Solas, but it looks like (to me) that they merge power. Not sure how that works out, seeing as merging of characteristics between two different spirit usually resulted in both being change by the other (Like Anders and Justice). With Solas and Flemmeth being powerful beings, that might not be a good idea.

 

 

According to Solas the old gods are dead even the Dragon of night and the Dragon of Mistery, this is the reason of why they cannot awake from their sleep, so when you said soul of an old god you use" Morrigan words"  but morrigan know nothing aboout the old gods and use the word soul instead of essence, the correct word is essence of the old gods.  Now regarding the ending  Solas absorb the essence of the beauty god without knowing that Flemeth have inside her the essence of the beuty dragon so maybe now if you have Kieran in your world state he is able to read the mind of the dread wolf.

In fact i belive that all the elven gods are dead (except for the dread wolf) only their power-essence remains like Mythal grant her power to Flemeth, however as Gaider said the elven gods are not creators so to me they are not gods , maybe they are very powerful among mortals but the golden-black city was not created by them, like the demons and the spirits.  The elven gods are more then demons and spirit but they have not the quality to be called  true GODS.

 

I don't recall Solas saying they're dead, and I recall him saying something about not wanting to wake up the 'others', so my guess is that they're sleeping, nothing more. And Solas did say that they are not gods, but powerful beings that can command magic as easily as breathing, so I don't know, they probably is indeed magical elves, but certainly not gods.
 

 

Yes, Solas is Fen'Harel.

 

It's not clear what happened in the epilogue, other than that power was consolidated into one being. We know that it is possible for two spiritual entities to merge completely (Anders/Justice and as it seems, the human aspect of Flemeth/Myrthal) so maybe we are looking at a being that temporarily or not is made up of several fused souls/spirits.

 

My hope is that Bioware does not go the tired and predicatble road here and makes them "the big bad", but that this new power represents making the world as it once was for good and for evil, just as the current world has its ups and downs. Its seems that their goal was change as in uniting the fade with Thedas. Perhaps this is the ancient world order that will restore the elves power, because it seems quite possible that the elves and Arlathan is connected to the Golden/Black city (Duh!)

 

The theory is as follows: The elves are actually a race of spirits that can exist in the physical world and have been cut of from their spiritual source of power when the veil was created by the dread wolf in ancient time (possible to stop the warfare of the the most powerful spirits of the tim: The old gods, by the elves known as "the forgotten ones" and the Creators). It is said that Fen'Harel was kin to both the forgotten ones and the creators and the one that tricked them both into their separate realms (making their presence "dead" in the world). But perhaps he realized that it was a mistake corrupting the world and wanted to reverse the process.

 

Perhaps in future games you will help them change the world by uniting the worlds or fight to keep it as it is and develop in a new direction.

 

That explain it! The tale was that Fen'Harel tricked the gods and sealed them, and since the Veil contains the Golden/Black city, plus the spirits, demons, and magical essences that mages and draw power from, it make sense that the Golden/Black city is where those gods live, and Fen'Harel sealed the Fade apart from the physical realm, but it had unintended consequences - leaving the normal elves being lost, and the chaos in the world due to the difference between the physical realm and the Fade. As for the 'gods', I think that the Ancient Elves, ones who lives for a long time, were a cross between magic and physical, letting them live as long as they did, and wield magic as they can. However, they are prideful, and hold themselves above their creations (as they recreated the world), and enslaved the elves - that's why Solas said the vallaslin was mark of slavery. And Solas was indeed a good guy, intended to do good but wasn't aware of the consequences. He sealed the 'gods' into the Fade, and went to sleep, only to wake up to the chaos that is the events of Dragon Age. Since he had slept for so long, and magic is sealed in the Fade, he doesn't have as much power as he used to, so he disguised as a mage, and started on the journey of trying to fix what he did wrong. However, I don't think that he intend to wake up the old gods/ancient elves, as it would only unleash their malice onto the world, and make his act of sealing them counterproductive. Not to mention, as he disliked their actions before of pride and slavery, I really doubt that he would let them out for them to enslave the other races again. As far as the old gods vs the ancient elves, I don't know, it's kinda tie to the story about two clashing factions of gods in the Elvhenan's stories; however, Solas stated that the archdemon/old gods have nothing to do with the elves......Kinda raise a lot of questions. What if the Archdemon itself was not Archdemon as the world understood it? The old gods exist, but they were tainted when the darkspawns found them; could they be the essense of the ancient elves, corrupted by the twisted darkness of the darkspawn? Judging from Corypheus' tale, the magisters of Tevinter did entered the Fade, and changed into something else. Could it be that they entered the Fade in the flesh, their desires corrupted the spirits there, and that in turn corrupted them? What happen to the ancient elves' essences then? How did the Tevinter Magistered entered the Golden/Black city in the first place? Corypheus said that the throne was empty, but he was expecting actualy physical form as they understood it? And since the Fade's spirits, as explained by Solas, existed as energies, could it be that the Magisters encountered ancient elven's essences and thought it was nothing?

 

So many theories, and so interesting! I think they probably will release the truth about the powerful ancient elves in DLCs or something XD
 



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I love reading all these theories. :) I definitely agree that Fen'Harel and Mythal are probably not gods per se, but powerful elves of ancient times.

I recall a conversation I had with Solas, where he says how beautiful the world would be without the Veil to keep the fade separate. And we know that the dread wolf supposedly sealed away the gods -- perhaps he is the one who created the veil in the first place, and now Solas wants to undo his error. Without direct connection to the fade, the elves lost their immortality. (Of course, without a Veil, what was stopping humans from stepping into the fade... idk.)

Another thing: at the end of Masked Empire, it's implied that the elf guy is killed by probably Fen'Harel, aka Solas, for the crime of not getting the password to the Eluvians. So, Solas needed access to the Eluvians for some reason. Maybe he thought he could have restored his power that way, like Morrigan theorized Coripheus was planning to do?

Kind of a shame we didn't get any interaction between Morrigan and Solas (...or any party members).