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[Wereupine]

Inquisitor Lavellan saddened by the loss of Solas jumped off the battlements at skyhold...Only to discover she couldn't take fall damage. I am so confused as to whether there is a dread wolf anymore or if Mythal just took his body.

[Tielis]

How would elves know the machinations of their own gods? Flemeth\mythal roamed the world and dealt with Dalish. So she would've known their myth of fen harel and know it to be untrue.

If anything Fen Harel may be just like Hawke,; a neutral party trying to bring peace between hostile Gods then something happens and his and everyone's legends become twisted.

Ex: Mythal is goddess of protection and justice, but now we find out she wants destruction and vengeance

 

Justice turning to vengeance sounds vaguely familiar.  

[Lianaar]

Just to add a little more to theories, and because I really am for a not evil Dread Wolf idea.
I replayed the nightmare section and there is a grave for Solas there too. It reads -> Solas:dying alone.

 

That powerful deamon didn't appear to be too wrong about people. He seemed to know a lot and usually demons trick people with a hint of truth twisted somehow. Also the other people's graves seemed to be spot-on about the fears people have. Alas to me it seems Solas' biggest fear is to remain alone and die with everyone else from his people gone. This can be used on any side of any arguments obviously, but in my reading it is arguing the idea of him killing Mythal, for that brings him closer to his biggest fear.

[InfinitePaths]

Just to add a little more to theories, and because I really am for a not evil Dread Wolf idea.
I replayed the nightmare section and there is a grave for Solas there too. It reads -> Solas:dying alone.

 

That powerful deamon didn't appear to be too wrong about people. He seemed to know a lot and usually demons trick people with a hint of truth twisted somehow. Also the other people's graves seemed to be spot-on about the fears people have. Alas to me it seems Solas' biggest fear is to remain alone and die with everyone else from his people gone. This can be used on any side of any arguments obviously, but in my reading it is arguing the idea of him killing Mythal, for that brings him closer to his biggest fear.

 

Solas mentions through Cole at the end of the game how he must walk a path alone, he says it's a sad path that he wouldn't wish even on his enemies.

 

Cole also mentiones during the game how Solas has a great sadness and loneliness inside him.

[Arijharn]

I'm not too sure if Kieran is born, but Morrigan did make a deal with Flemeth: in exchange for Kieran she'll allow Flemeth to do whatever to her.

 

Then there also drinking her essense (?) from the well.

 

Also, isn't odd that Flemeth can call Urthemiel from within the fade?

 

While you may have a point, I always figured that with Flemeth's actions she wouldn't call on Morrigan at all in that way. With Morrigan's defiance and love for her son, I think at the very least it struck a chord with her mother in some way.

[Cooperb21]

I refuse to believe Flemeth is dead no way she has lke 100 lives she never dies she will be back. 

[JDALFONSO]

I think its probably much simpler than we all expect.

 

So bare with me. Flemeth and Solas (And the spirits that posses them who i can never remember how to spell their names so ill just call them Flemeth and Solas) have throughout  the game told us that they are are not actually gods. My guess is that they were most likely the way that Cole is. Spiritis who took physical forms and were worshipped by the elves as gods. 

 

We also know that the Old gods/ Arch demons were not truly gods either. This leads me to 1 of 2 possible conclusions.

 

1: The old gods and the elven gods are one in the same, much like how the greeks and romans worshipped the same gods by different names. Flemeth's ability to turn into a dragon is primarily what leads me to this conclusion and also helps explain why she would be able to take an Old God's soul and why Solas would be able to absorb both souls. This is of course assuming that the souls of different races are different from one another to there would be a compatability issue.

 

2: In Elven legend their 2 pantheons of gods the good ones and the dark ones. It could be that Flemeth belonged to the good ones and the old gods were the evil ones from elven lore Solas being the trickster that imprisoned the good gods int he fade and the old gods in the earth.

 

Either way, seeing as Solas is a trickster, when you go through the second playthrough, alot of what he says starts to make sense if you just assume that he is lieing.

[myahele]

I just realized that Flemeth is an anagram of Elf Myth,Lol. Also, Flemeth mentioned she encountered Mythal's wisp and wisp are remnants of destroyed spirits according to lore

 

Anyways after reading up on lore it seems that wolves (fen harel symbol) is revered as protectors in both human (avvar?) And elf myths. Sola's even gives advice on how to properly rebel and set up order once the goal was reached.

 

Maybe Solas did what he did to protect the people from from Flemythal and others "reckoning" the orb that allows easy fade travel is destroyed. Briala has the key to many locked eluvians, inquisition is in place, etc.

[Dustin Mock]

Why is everyone so sure it was the Old Gods soul that went through the mirror?  More likely it was Flemmeth/Mythal leaving and going to one of her necklace charms or whatever leaving the old god's soul in her husk for Solas to absorb.  

 

Flemmeth was merely holding on to the old god soul for a while, but Solas actually absorbed it and joined with it meaning Solas is no more just like when Anders merged with Justice meaning they were the same thing.  What was Anders and what was Justice didn't exist any more and only the hybrid was left.  Same goes for Solas here, and that is why Flemmeth was sad and upset.  It was a worst case scenario to have to resort to this for them, and now the being known as Solas is dead with the mix only being what's left.  

[Wereupine]

Also if Flemeth/Mythal took Solas/Dread wolf over why put the old god soul into the eluvian?

[Arijharn]

I just realized that Flemeth is an anagram of Elf Myth,Lol. Also, Flemeth mentioned she encountered Mythal's wisp and wisp are remnants of destroyed spirits according to lore

 

Anyways after reading up on lore it seems that wolves (fen harel symbol) is revered as protectors in both human (avvar?) And elf myths. Sola's even gives advice on how to properly rebel and set up order once the goal was reached.

 

Maybe Solas did what he did to protect the people from from Flemythal and others "reckoning" the orb that allows easy fade travel is destroyed. Briala has the key to many locked eluvians, inquisition is in place, etc.

 

Wouldn't it be Elf Meth?

 

Anything's possible though; I actually thought Solas was a fantastic character and very well grounded, which is pretty much everything I didnt' expect to come from an isolated hedge wizard tbh.

[Lianaar]

I also contemplated a lot about his name, why he was named Pride/Arrogance?
I don't know if this is linked or not, but interesting detail that poked at me upon my further play throughs: spirits of wisdom, if corrupted, turn to pride demons.
Now it seems fitting.

[SamanthaJ]

I also contemplated a lot about his name, why he was named Pride/Arrogance?
I don't know if this is linked or not, but interesting detail that poked at me upon my further play throughs: spirits of wisdom, if corrupted, turn to pride demons.
Now it seems fitting.

Based on some of his dialogue such as a banter with Cole where he talked about the actions of a younger elf who thought they knew everything I think he he might have chosen the name Solas as some sort of reminder or punishment. 

[Morroian]

Makes sense when you think about it though. Solas gave him the orb everything more or less went as Solas intended except for the whole breaking of the orb.

and if my theories correct Solas also designed cory's escape in the first place.

 

This would make everything Solas says during the game a lie. I highly doubt that. Much of his dialogue was delivered with such conviction that it was clear he believed what he was saying. This is also borne out by what he approves and disapproves of.

[Googleness]

few points...

in the temple of mythal if you search around there are statues and mosaics of teh elven gods, if solas and morrigan are with you they will banter on the true version of those.

 

second...

 

so the elven gods are locked in the black city? otherwise how solas thought cory will open the way?

also if they were in teh black city will it make it arlathan as the sentinel said it was the elves which ruined it?

[Baaleos]

I prefer to believe that it was Flemeth doing the possession - the way she said 'Im sorry too.... <POSSESSION!!>
Lets not forget - she was an old lady, and she had lost access to Morrigan - who was her first choice for a host.
When her body starts to go silver/black in color - it suggests that her body is degrading at an accelerated rate - almost like the Soul of Mythal was keeping her alive.

Regardless of what option we choose to believe- I think its bye bye Kate Mulgrew (Captain Janeway!!)
I think Mythal has taken Solas as a host - perhaps willingly, but remember what Flemeth said
She and Mythal are no different from a heart in a chest (as one)
Perhaps a bit of Flemeth will still exist within Solas

[Ashagar]

Solas and Flemeth might not tell the whole truth or even hide it but neither are liars and both are likely still around. The dread wolf believes he is needed and there are things he must do so won't allow his own end and Mythal is out for revenge but apparently not against the dread wolf. Neither are likely going to stop in their goals and Mythal/flemeth has survived being killed several times while the dread wolf is the great trickster of the setting.

[hex0mega]

Does anyone else feel like it was sort of a stand off? One of my theories is that she attempted possession and he fought back, given his reaction to her, and her following gasp. 

[Ashagar]

Yes I don't belive for a moment Solas was taken over and I don't believe flemeth would confront him without a backup plan like the confrontation with the Warden.

[rolson00]

i think they helped each other what we're seeing is them about to do somthing huge like unleash the old world;d upon the new

[Hellosanta]

I don't know .. everything is very confusing. Solas being the dread wolf seems to be true, though.

 

I remember Solas and Abelas saying that elven legends as we knew were not true in the temple of Mythal. And I think one of them also said something that implied the dread wolf was not a betrayer. It could be Solas trying to defend his own cause though. One more thing, if you talk with Solas about elf after arbor wilds, Solas shows disliking towards the idea of considering modern elf as his own. He said they were not his people. I just get the feeling that we should not interpret things in accordance with what elven legends we know of and the "people" Solas mentioned in the epilogue were not elves, at least, not modern elves.

[Ashagar]

I think Solas when he speaks of the people certainly means it in a broader sense than the dalish would use it and doesn't approve of how they react to city elves or humans for that matter. To me at least he seems approving of the fact that the dalish inquisitor's clan doesn't pick fights with humans or isolates itself in the wilds.

[nt95]

My first thought after the final cut scene was "Now EA doesn't have to pay Kate Mulgrew to voice act in the next game".  That would be sad because she does a great job. 

[Kulyok]

There's absolutely no way we wouldn't see Flemeth and her horcuxes again. I mean, really? Seriously? The protagonist of DA4 won't be saved, nudged, bullied or manipulated by Flemeth? Boo.

[MoonDrummer]

I asked Flemeth why she hadn't helped save her people (the elves) and she said that I had no idea what I ask. I thought this implied that she and then solas trapped the gods to save all the races from the thumb of higher beings