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#26
godlike13

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 That's actually incredibly weak.

 

Let me explain:

 

1) 100% uptime damage buff. +15% extra damage against demons? Bleh. There are mobs OTHER than demons out there. You can have this up 100% of the time, but you'll only need it for 1/3 of the game.

 

2) 10% resistance for whole party. Meh. This is okay... The number is still too low in my opinion.

 

3) Weaken debuff for whole party. What?

 

4) Party wide dmg buff vs demon. Yeah you already said that, and like I said, you only need this for like 1/3 of the game. The other classes have great damage against ANY enemy. The Templars are limited to fighting demons to display their full power.

 

5) AoE Dispel. Mage's dispel is better. If you're going to brag about the 600% damage from the Templar's Dispel, don't. 600% from a situational dispel is pathetic. Look at the Mage's Fire Mine ability. It has 1600% damage, and you can increase that with the 2 passive buffs totaling over +3200% damage. 

 

6) AoE Stun. Again, Mage's are better at stuns. The rift mage, lightning tree and ice tree can keep enemies stunned easily. Your claim of ONE single 'stun' is nothing in comparison.

 

7) Full heal and massive dmg boost when your templar dies. REALLY? This is a GOOD thing? How about you DON'T die? Isn't that better than relying on your own death to benefit the party? You want a full heal? Check out the Knight Enchanter. KEs are practically invincible and have a focus ability that revives AND heals all teammates. PFt.

 

8) I'm not even gonna argue anymore since it's so clear that your points are negligible.

 

 

I wouldn't say its his point that are negligible. Ur comparing random unrelated spells, and cherry picking spells from multiple different tress. No single tree can compare to that. 


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#27
themageguy

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Templar doesn't get mage slayer like the templar in MP right?

#28
Sharizza

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Does anyone know whether  'There is no Darkness' +10% damage reduction and/or Blessed Blades +15% damage bonus passive stack?

 

I'm playing a dwarf 2-hander set on romancing Cassandra and he is convinced to be chosen by Andraste.

Was wondering if running both Cassandra and a 2-handed Templar is in anyway fun/worth trying or i should just become a blood-thirsty-Andraste-loving Reaver.

 

Also, is Blessed Blades useful in general or only vs demons?



#29
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I find templars fantastic Cassandra can pretty much solo a demon horde with wrath of heaven spam. Since she got her spec rifts have really become quite trivial, wrath of heaven just absolutely annihilates demons.



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Does anyone know whether  'There is no Darkness' +10% damage reduction and/or Blessed Blades +15% damage bonus passive stack?

 

I'm playing a dwarf 2-hander set on romancing Cassandra and he is convinced to be chosen by Andraste.

Was wondering if running both Cassandra and a 2-handed Templar is in anyway fun/worth trying or i should just become a blood-thirsty-Andraste-loving Reaver.

 

Also, is Blessed Blades useful in general or only vs demons?

Blessed blades is terrible as it does not apply bonus damage vs non demons. So either the skill is broken or the tooltip is. Either way it is terrible, get horn of valour that atleast works.



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Say what you want about the offensive skills for the Templar, but that focus ability is ridiculously good. Not only can you give your entire party a huge defensive boost and instantly increase their survivability, but it also persists after the encounter with all members gaining full guard. It is easily one of the better Focus Abilities in the game.

As for the other skills, it's mostly based around fighting demons, so yeah you won't see a lot of high dmg numbers with the Templar. But Wrath of Heaven is fantastic with its AOE stun (since you should be using War Cry anyway) and the Spell Purge isn't too bad. You just have to decide it's worth it.

Funny how a lot of people complain on this board about lack of variety of class types, yet they want everyone to be a DPS machine.

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I just want the skills ficed. Fix the detonators and fix blessed blade so we actually get a 15% damage boost and more vs demons as it says. Besides what i hate is MMO whos started the messed up trend of you always need a tank. 

 

A vid made by sinosleep to show blessed blades does not work. Comparing horn of valour and blessed blades both supposed to give 15% damage increase.



#33
Biotic Flash Kick

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actually weakness procing is broken in general

 

riftmage is super unfun if you get bugged on : <

 

blessed blades doesnt give damage

 

templar does have a working CCC which is more than what most other classes can say

cross class combos are so bugged in this game Wth

 

wrath of heaven + spell purge = massive spirit damage 

 

but templar needs some reworking

 

it's not as bugged as necro or rift mage 



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errantknight

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I don't know if op is just an idiot...or a troll who made a new name/account but wow.

It's obviously not a troll post, so there's not need to be unpleasant about other people's difficulties.



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The thing with the Templar is that it is a specialization geared toward a very specific type of enemy. As such, in my opinion, it should not be a specialization that the Inquisitor takes since the Inquisitor has to deal with more than demons. 

 

Yeah, what ever happened to dealing with renegade mages? but yeah I still will try out the Templar spec for my 2hander who's goal is to control the battlefield.