Aller au contenu

Photo

Alexius. What did you choose? **Spoilers**


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
81 réponses à ce sujet

#51
BraveVesperia

BraveVesperia
  • Members
  • 1 602 messages

I had him serve the mages. He's too useful to kill, but what he did to the Tranquil mages can't go unpunished.


  • Red of Rivia aime ceci

#52
MikeJW

MikeJW
  • Members
  • 240 messages

Death. I don't understand how anyone who saw the future he would have brought forth could chose anything else.



#53
Warden Commander Aeducan

Warden Commander Aeducan
  • Members
  • 2 278 messages

I had him serve the mages. He's too useful to kill, but what he did to the Tranquil mages can't go unpunished.

You had him served under Fiona...

 

Aku_by_meglyman.jpg



#54
JaegerBane

JaegerBane
  • Members
  • 5 441 messages
Forced him to research magic.

Killing him is pointless - everything he did, he did to try and save his son, and since he failed in that, he was practically a broken man. He literally does not care.

Rendering him tranquil is something my mage inquisitor is philosophically opposed to.

#55
Wrath_Of_Deadguy

Wrath_Of_Deadguy
  • Members
  • 34 messages

I made him Tranquil. I didn't do it because it was the worst punishment that I could imagine, but rather because it was the most sensible solution to the problems at hand.

 

My reasoning:

 

My enemies are doing something terrible involving the Fade. The spirits of the dead pass through the Fade and can remain there, possibly as long as they wish to. Alexius possesses knowledge that I cannot allow to pass to his master. His master can interact with the Fade. If I execute him, I could potentially be giving his master exactly what he wanted in the use of Alexius' powerful time magic.

 

I can't let him go or trust him among my allies- he's possessed of a power such as no one should ever have, together with the will to use it. Plus, he's mind-controlled the mages once already; if he does again I'm pretty well and truly screwed. Not to mention what might happen if he dreamwalks in the Fade somehow and has a chat with whoever's pulling his strings to tell him allll about my capabilites and weaknesses. Not an option either.

 

I can't leave him both alive and in possession of his powers, and I can't kill him and possibly grant my enemy the advantage (nevermind throwing away a valuable source of intelligence). That leaves only one reasonable option: Tranquility. He'll be severed from the Fade, unable to work his time magic or mind control, and still retain all of his knowledge regarding my enemy for me to use. Apart from being squeamish about inflicting a fate worse than death on a fellow mage- one with whom I feel no kinship anyway- I can't think of a reason in the world why Tranquility isn't the best of all available options here.

 

I followed the same line of reasoning for every other Venatori mage I captured, and dealt with the disapproval of my mage allies as necessary. Look guys, I'm a mage too and Tranquility scares me as much as it does any other magic wielder... but if the cost of saving the world is ripping out the soul of a total bastard, that's not a terribly high price. At least if they're Tranquil I can be well assured that they won't be a threat anymore... stick them on ice somewhere until the war is over and then decide how best to dispose of or repurpose them. They're exactly the kind of powermad lunatics on whom the Rite was meant to be used.

 

That said, execution was funny and satisfying with him as well. "You'll die by my hand... again." "Again?! You mean it worked? No, wait!" Cue Inquisitrollface.



#56
Ryzaki

Ryzaki
  • Members
  • 34 400 messages

Tranquiled him.

 

Mostly for lulz.



#57
KaiserShep

KaiserShep
  • Members
  • 23 787 messages

That said, execution was funny and satisfying with him as well. "You'll die by my hand... again." "Again?! You mean it worked? No, wait!" Cue Inquisitrollface.

 

Yeah, in my first playthrough, I just decided to execute him, and I loved how he was suddenly struck with the realization that the time magic actually worked.

 

Anyway, Alexius never actually controls anyone's minds. He might have the ability to do it, but he never even attempts it. Fiona pledged herself under her own free will, and if Alexius was really able to just hijack the thoughts of other people, he would have attempted this at least out of desperation when his trap failed and the Inquisitor basically had him where they wanted him, instead of firing up his flux capacitor pendant, which he no longer possesses.



#58
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*

Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
  • Guests

After the revelation of Cassandra's Inner Circle quest I believe tranquility shouldn't be used as punishment. I'd rather cut Erimond's head off than allowing tranquility to be viewed by mundanes as a legitimate punishment. I'm not strictly against it either. If a mage chooses to live that way or simply can not control their powers then it has to be used.



#59
Zeroth Angel

Zeroth Angel
  • Members
  • 4 883 messages

My mage made him continue his research.

 

I mean time magic? No way I'm killing the guy who came up with that.


  • Hazegurl aime ceci

#60
TheLastArchivist

TheLastArchivist
  • Members
  • 883 messages

If you have Arcane Knowledge perk, you can order him to further research his Time Magic under supervision and custody , which I regard is the best option. Dorian approve this.

Imagine if the Inquisitor is a total ass and gives him menial tasks, like asking Alexius to send him back in time to avoid getting late for tea, for example.



#61
Qun00

Qun00
  • Members
  • 4 336 messages

I had him serve the mages. He's too useful to kill, but what he did to the Tranquil mages can't go unpunished.

Yes, leave Alexius free and with access to mages. Surround him with guards that couldn't lay a finger on him if he tried something.

That's the best way to deal with a guy that almost caused the end of the world.

After the revelation of Cassandra's Inner Circle quest I believe tranquility shouldn't be used as punishment. I'd rather cut Erimond's head off than allowing tranquility to be viewed by mundanes as a legitimate punishment. I'm not strictly against it either. If a mage chooses to live that way or simply can not control their powers then it has to be used.


Well, Alexius clearly can't be trusted with wielding it.

Punishing Alexius for a crime he has yet to commit and will never be able to commit now seemed odd, so I made him do magical research with arcane knowledge perk.
Without it..... probably would make him help the mages. Killing him seemed pointless, the man is broken, and jailing him, even more pointless.
 
I think the only one I've killed and would killed over and over again is Erimond, he wanted it too.


I'll just quote Leliana.

"This is all pretend to you, some future you hope won't happen.

We all suffered, I suffered. It was real."
  • GreenClover aime ceci

#62
nazgul1x

nazgul1x
  • Members
  • 101 messages

Yes, leave Alexius free and with access to mages. Surround him with guards that couldn't lay a finger on him if he tried something.

That's the best way to deal with a guy that almost caused the end of the world.


Well, Alexius clearly can't be trusted with wielding it.


I'll just quote Leliana.

"This is all pretend to you, some future you hope won't happen.

We all suffered, I suffered. It was real."

+1

Also if Alexius is "broken" and doesn't care anymore....he will be of no use to the Inq.



#63
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*

Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
  • Guests

Yes, leave Alexius free and with access to mages. Surround him with guards that couldn't lay a finger on him if he tried something.

That's the best way to deal with a guy that almost caused the end of the world.


Well, Alexius clearly can't be trusted with wielding it.


I'll just quote Leliana.

"This is all pretend to you, some future you hope won't happen.

We all suffered, I suffered. It was real."

 

 

Chronomancy > than your superstitious fear of magic.



#64
Warden Commander Aeducan

Warden Commander Aeducan
  • Members
  • 2 278 messages

Yes, leave Alexius free and with access to mages. Surround him with guards that couldn't lay a finger on him if he tried something.

That's the best way to deal with a guy that almost caused the end of the world.

I'm more concerned about it'll give Fiona more power, more confidence and sense of authority, and she'll see this as a reward. I don't reward Fiona for her own stupidity. 



#65
Qun00

Qun00
  • Members
  • 4 336 messages

Chronomancy > than your superstitious fear of magic.


We're not discussing magic in a broad sense.

This is about a specific individual and his evident misuse of it.

#66
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*

Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
  • Guests

We're not discussing magic in a broad sense.

This is about a specific individual and his evident misuse of it.

 

Have you watched John Q? Did you read the letters in Redcliffe Castle? Alexius didn't care about Corypheus or his agenda. He wanted to go into the past to save his wife and son. The Elder One was but a means to an end. Alexius' biggest mistake was picking the wrong boss.



#67
Steelcan

Steelcan
  • Members
  • 23 279 messages

I had him continue research, he doesn't deserve death or tranquility for trying to save his son

 

Erimond on the other hand can enchant weapons to the end of his days



#68
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*

Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
  • Guests

I had him continue research, he doesn't deserve death or tranquility for trying to save his son

 

Erimond on the other hand can enchant weapons to the end of his days

 

Yeah I made Erimond tranquil first time through, but I hadn't done Cassandra's quest yet. Still if anyone deserves it, it's that dude.



#69
Br3admax

Br3admax
  • Members
  • 12 316 messages

Alexius was made Leliana's ******. Erimond got his head chopped off. He deserved no other punishment, the fact that he has magical powers doesn't make me want to make him Tranquil either. Just dead. 



#70
DarkDragon777

DarkDragon777
  • Members
  • 1 956 messages

Magical Research



#71
DementedSheep

DementedSheep
  • Members
  • 188 messages

I chose death, he knowingly worked with an ancient magister with aspirations of godhood who is responsible for a breach which is causing demons to pour into the world and in the future we saw basically ended the world. I'm not going to screw around with imprisonment or trying to force someone to work for me when they're a powerful mage. Tranquillity I dislike on principle and I didn't have that option. For some reason Tranquillity is only an option if you play a mage. 

 

Although the min maxer in me was screaming  "NO! you miss out on an agent!".



#72
Biotic Flash Kick

Biotic Flash Kick
  • Members
  • 1 561 messages

tranquility 

because i was qunari necromancer 



#73
AshesEleven

AshesEleven
  • Members
  • 1 575 messages

I killed him.  Not for any moral reason, I just prefer my enemies to be eliminated and not left alive as a potential threat.  



#74
Mushashi7

Mushashi7
  • Members
  • 824 messages

Do you kick a man lying on the ground?

 

I judged Alexius to serve the mages and research magic.

I can not punish anyone who acted out of love.

I know Alexius made a lot of people suffer, killed and ruined many things. But when I sit down and think about it he was actually just in pain.

As an aware human being he should be smart enough to know when things are wrong. True.
But what you actually judge is a person in pain.

I don't ever kick a person who's already lying on the ground. That is sadism.

What actually makes human beings so much better than any other species is compassion, right?



#75
Hazegurl

Hazegurl
  • Members
  • 4 895 messages

Magic research with the perk, without the perk, death.

 

Time magic can be very useful, didn't win against Cory? Rewind and start the fight over lol!