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[Hazegurl]

Oh, that. Well, then. Safe and "safe" are different things then. Yes, there are a lot of "safe" romances in that the writing is fine. I mean, if the most people can come up with regarding a romance is Leliana talking about wanting to keep your eyes in a jar, then yeah, those are pretty safe.

Woah, is that true? Does she say that to the romanced Warden? If so, glad my boy dodged that bullet of cray. lol!

 

 

 

Really the only thing angsty about Dorian's romance is his need to constantly test the relationship by trying to give you an out and see if you'll take it.

Yeah, it gets a bit sad that he does that.  I wanted to grab him and tell him "I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE, DAMN!"

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Wow, really? Poor guy...

Yeah, he's pretty much convinced that it's just a matter of time until you leave him to the point that he does a bit of self-sabotaging. 

[d4eaming]

The true bane of every writer is indifference not hate. If no one cared enough to even talk about it, it would be the same as not writing it at all.

 

Errr, yeeeeaahhhhh. I agree with this. Bull bothers and annoys me- to a high enough degree I don't even know if my mage is going to recruit him. Whatever your interpretation of him, positive or negative, the character creating that much of a charge on the boards means something was done right. The forgettable "meh" characters are not the ones that should be in the game (and that's open to opinion as well- there's plenty of characters I personally don't find remotely interesting, but that people seemed to absolutely love *coughOghrencoughwhyyoubeinAwakening* such a huge disappointment for me that he was the "fan favorite", so I kicked him out).

 

Much as I kinda hate Iron Bull, the fact he invokes such a strong reaction is a good thing.

 

Dorian was hardly filled with angst. His companion quest was definitely on the heavy side, but that has nothing at all to do with his romance.

 

I haven't gotten an overly angsty feeling from him. It's nothing compared to Fenris, for sure. He's a bit vulnerable because of his fear of rejection, and he likes having plenty of reassurance, but he's generally pretty flippant and sassy than angsty.

[errantknight]

Heh, the DA2 companions were so messed up, Aveline was the only one my Hawke was interested in. That ended in some really awkward matchmaking, of course, but still...she was entirely sane. Yay!

[Fredward]

Really the only thing angsty about Dorian's romance is his need to constantly test the relationship by trying to give you an out and see if you'll take it.

 

Which is why I'd never date someone like Dorian IRL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reminds me too much of myself.

[Monica21]

Eye lashes. Still weird, but not as terrifying.

 

Woah, is that true? Does she say that to the romanced Warden? If so, glad my boy dodged that bullet of cray. lol!

 

Was sleepy when I posted that. Eyelashes, as errantknight pointed out.

[Lady Artifice]

Did you know your eyelids flutter when you dream? And you have such pretty eyelashes.

 

Err...m-my eyelashes?

 

Mmhmm. They're like little butterflies... I want to catch them and keep them in a jar.

 

Sure, where's the jar?

 

 

 

 

...Because Leliana is adorable. 

[Wintersbreath]

 

Lenimph, on 27 Nov 2014 - 11:24 PM, said:

 

I actually have a few issues with this. 

 

I really don't like that they had this conversation AFTER the deed. Shows that Iron Bull just went for it and that is troublesome. I also don't like the way Iron Bull shuts down the Inquisitor when quizzy suggested different roles, assuming that he knows what the Inquisitor needs better then the inquisitor himself, very troublesome.  While I appreciate the effort on Bioware's part for representation, I'm judging Iron Bull for being an shady Dom.  

 

Of course I don't know what happens when you pick, "you're wrong?" 

EDIT: Apparently that means you break up because he's incapable of switching or having normal sex... ok yeah... I have huge problems with this....

 

Finally, this is exactly how I feel! I found Iron Bull to be hypocritical and manipulative in his romance, with his talk about "respect," his rules, his psychoanalysis of the Inquisitor... So what if quizzie lusted for IB? That doesn't mean he's up for only bottoming and subbing. It certainly doesn't make it okay for Bull to twist it around and say quizzie's the one needing it when in fact topping and domming is the only sex that works for him.

 

"You don't get to have a say in your sex life because that's disrespectful (to yourself, wut) and I know best. (I will serve you and) make you feel good, but only in a way that I approve." Wow, okay. You do you and I'll do Dorian. 

 

My hang-ups with Iron Bull are documented in a different thread but basically, Lenimph said it all:

1. http://forum.bioware...sks/?p=17921602

2. http://forum.bioware...sks/?p=17927323

3. http://forum.bioware...post&p=17952902

4. http://forum.bioware...post&p=17954024

5. http://forum.bioware...post&p=17965145

 

I understand how it seems, and is also likely, that the romances are written for quizzies of specific personalities or preferences but weren't they the ones who said "you have complete freedom over who your quizzie is" or something? I think it's with regards to the Chantry, I'm not too sure. Still, even if the quizzie is a total sub and bottom, I find IB's refusal to talk about switching and the quizzie's actual needs, and his psychoanalysis of the quizzie very, very troubling.

[Knazzer]

I wouldn't mind abit of bdsm with Iron Bull if Dorian doesn't put out

[Hazegurl]

Did you know your eyelids flutter when you dream? And you have such pretty eyelashes.

 

Err...m-my eyelashes?

 

Mmhmm. They're like little butterflies... I want to catch them and keep them in a jar.

 

Sure, where's the jar?

 

 

 

 

...Because Leliana is adorable. 

....and that's why my Warden will stick with Morrigan. lol!!

 

@d4eaming, aw why you no like Ohgren?  Wait don't answer that. lol! I think I know why he gets hate. I love the guy, even when I have to beat him in line. 

[Ryzaki]

Really? I found Morrigan far more creepy than Leliana. That is the woman who snaps at my CE for not sacrificing his/her parents for some measly health points.

 

Plus the eyelashes comment was cute

[Kulyok]

Honestly, I was excited when I heard about Iron Bull's... preferences. But in the game, talking about it ruined the mood for me. In these talks, Iron Bull is being kind, gentle, sensitive, understanding, sweet, patronizing - and it's all nice, but it really doesn't fit with "tie me down and f*** me like an animal" stuff and other dirty pictures I am seeing in my mind. 

 

Instead, I get the pictures that he's being kind and patient in bed, too, and that she(my character) is saying "katoh" every five minutes just to give him a chance to show how understanding and caring and patient and sweet he is.

 

So, I guess I'll go back to reading really good OOC dom!Solas fanfics on kinkmeme.

[Ryzaki]

Honestly, I was excited when I heard about Iron Bull's... preferences. But in the game, talking about it ruined the mood for me. In these talks, Iron Bull is being kind, gentle, sensitive, understanding, sweet, patronizing - and it's all nice, but it really doesn't fit with "tie me down and f*** me like an animal" stuff and other dirty pictures I am seeing in my mind. 

 

Instead, I get the pictures that he's being kind and patient in bed, too, and that she(my character) is saying "katoh" every five minutes just to give him a chance to show how understanding and caring and patient and sweet he is.

 

So, I guess I'll go back to reading really good OOC dom!Solas fanfics on kinkmeme.

 

Yeah I'm kind of mad the whole conquered bit of banter is wasted on freaking Dorian.

 

I wanted that.

 

*grumbles*

[Hazegurl]

Really? I found Morrigan far more creepy than Leliana. That is the woman who snaps at my CE for not sacrificing his/her parents for some measly health points.

 

Plus the eyelashes comment was cute

I'd stick with Morrigan to avoid the "sickenly sweet" (as Morrign would say) Leliana. lol!

[sandalisthemaker]

Yeah I'm kind of mad the whole conquered bit of banter is wasted on freaking Dorian.

 

I wanted that.

 

*grumbles*

 

Dorian does seem to ignite something primal in Bull. For good or for ill.

 

Though I'm sure Bull has the hots for dragons more than anything else. 

[DarkAmaranth1966]

I love the Iron Bull romance, but then it's my thing. Dorian is too insecure, understandably so but, not for me. Cass to frilly about it, Joesphine too tame, Cullen to bashfull, Solas too proper so, I go with Bull for my cannon romance.

[Ryzaki]

Dorian does seem to ignite something primal in Bull. For good or for ill.

 

Though I'm sure Bull has the hots for dragons more than anything else. 

 

Probably the constant calling him a savage. That'd make me pretty primal too. XD

 

I love taking him dragon hunting

[Milan92]

Woah, is that true? Does she say that to the romanced Warden? If so, glad my boy dodged that bullet of cray. lol!

 

She doesn't want to keep your eyes in a jar. She is simply teasing how she wants to catch your eyelashes.

 

Seriously people, stop making Leliana look like a creep.

[Panda]

She doesn't want to keep your eyes in a jar. She is simply teasing how she wants to catch your eyelashes.

 

Seriously people, stop making Leliana look like a creep.

 

Yes, it's Isabela who has thing for eyeballs.

[Milan92]

Yes, it's Isabela who has thing for eyeballs.

 

She... does? 

[Panda]

She... does? 

 

Straight from the wiki:

 

• Fenris: So this relic you mentioned losing...
• Isabela: You have pretty eyes.
• Fenris: I... have pretty eyes.
• Isabela: You elves have such pretty eyes, even the men. It makes me want to pluck them out and wear them as a necklace.

Not creepy at all ^^;

[Milan92]

Straight from the wiki:

 

• Fenris: So this relic you mentioned losing...
• Isabela: You have pretty eyes.
• Fenris: I... have pretty eyes.
• Isabela: You elves have such pretty eyes, even the men. It makes me want to pluck them out and wear them as a necklace.

Not creepy at all ^^;

 

Must be a Rivaini thing.

[Ryzaki]

Damnit NINJA'D.

[Milan92]

Damnit NINJA'D.

 

Crazy woman.

 

Edit: Isabela that is.

[Hazegurl]

Straight from the wiki:

 

• Fenris: So this relic you mentioned losing...
• Isabela: You have pretty eyes.
• Fenris: I... have pretty eyes.
• Isabela: You elves have such pretty eyes, even the men. It makes me want to pluck them out and wear them as a necklace.

Not creepy at all ^^;

Ah, so that's where the eyeball thing comes from.

 

In her defense I think she just wanted Fenris to shut up.  But still...