I go for the more chaste relationships, that was part of the reason I romanced Garrus in ME and Josephine in DAI. Also the reason I wouldn't romance Iron Bull. That being said, I have a feeling it was more of a slight oversight on Bioware's part than Iron Bull being manipulative. At least there was a rules talk.
Iron Bull and BDSM Sex
#176
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:33
#177
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:33
Haha, that is probably for the best and that was probably a good way to describe some of the arguing that I've seen...>>...
and have been in.
Love your icon, by the way. Oh, Dog, how I miss you....
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#178
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:42
Love your icon, by the way. Oh, Dog, how I miss you....
Oh Dog, he is wonderful
. I am a total sucker for him, especially with the human noble.
#179
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 12:43
lol!! I hear you on that. Isabela will never put her piratey vixen hands on Fenris. I'm actually thankful for having no desire to romance Merrill or Anders.
I'm terrible as when I do romance Merrill or Anders I don't recruit her. Or let her stab us in the back.
I REGRET NOTHING. ![]()
Do you act the same with the various other people Isabela sleeps with while you are with her, for example Zevran, or is it just Fenris?
Just Fenris he's my husbando
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#180
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 01:19
Just Fenris he's my husbando
Ah, okay. I didn't know whether you didn't like the Isabela part of that pairing, the Fenris part, or both. Thanks for answering.
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#181
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 01:41
I'm the one who gets jealous bc of Bela. ![]()
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#182
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:03
Eh if you really don't want it to occur you wouldn't recruit one of them. (or romance one of them)
Just because you don't hear the banter doesn't mean it doesn't still happen.
Actually, I got no banter between them on my first playthrough (didn't care enough for Bull to use him), and after the final battle Dorian said he would stay for a while because I'm such a good friend, not because of IB. He never even mentioned him and I only found out that they could get together afterwards, somewhere on the internet. So either their relationship really depends on the banter or Dorian's friendship with quizzy outweighs his fling with IB in that dialogue.
I don't see why is it such a big deal if people don't want IB and Dorian to get together - it's their game, they paid for it and they can play it however they want.
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#183
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:17
Actually, I got no banter between them on my first playthrough (didn't care enough for Bull to use him), and after the final battle Dorian said he would stay for a while because I'm such a good friend, not because of IB. He never even mentioned him and I only found out that they could get together afterwards, somewhere on the internet. So either their relationship really depends on the banter or Dorian's friendship with quizzy outweighs his fling with IB in that dialogue. I don't see why is it such a big deal if people don't want IB and Dorian to get together - it's their game, they paid for it and they can play it however they want.
Or you know Dorian decides not to mention it since in that gamestate Quizzy simply isn't aware of it. That is also a possibility.
? When did I say it was a big deal? Seriously I would look rather foolish saying that considering the lengths I go through to avoid Isabela/Fenris banter XD
(My issue comes from the defenses used as to why they shouldn't be together instead of simply "I don't like it.")
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#184
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:24
Actually, I got no banter between them on my first playthrough (didn't care enough for Bull to use him), and after the final battle Dorian said he would stay for a while because I'm such a good friend, not because of IB. He never even mentioned him and I only found out that they could get together afterwards, somewhere on the internet. So either their relationship really depends on the banter or Dorian's friendship with quizzy outweighs his fling with IB in that dialogue. I don't see why is it such a big deal if people don't want IB and Dorian to get together - it's their game, they paid for it and they can play it however they want.
I agree! Actually it's just the reasoning behind it some people have that bothers me. Because that would be a big deal if it were true. People can play their games however they wish, though.
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#185
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:34
? When did I say it was a big deal? Seriously I would look rather foolish saying that considering the lengths I go through to avoid Isabela/Fenris banter XD
(My issue comes from the defenses used as to why they shouldn't be together instead of simply "I don't like it.")
That wasn't intended at you, sorry about that
Should have made it clearer. And I hear you about Fenris/Isabela, though I never really had this problem bc I always romanced Fenris and I stopped recruiting Isabela altogether.
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#186
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:35
*sniffle*
Poor Bela.
It's okay, I love u bby.
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#187
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:38
That wasn't intended at you, sorry about that
Should have made it clearer. And I hear you about Fenris/Isabela, though I never really had this trouble bc I always romanced Fenris and I stopped recruiting Isabela altogether.
I mostly romanced Fenris that voice is so irrestible
so I usually didn't have an issue.
But when I did my Merrill and Anders romances (mostly for science) I didn't want to hear it so I either had her run off (Fenris reaction made me lol) or I never recruited her too plus that stupid grin Hawke does at her during her recruitment pisses me off.
*sniffle*
Poor Bela.
It's okay, I love u bby.
My reaction to Kazama being brought up in a Hakuoki discussion XD
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#188
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:40
Oh no - This is a sex-positive education lecture Bioware is delivering to the class here, not an actual exploration - for grown ups, by grown ups - of what the topics they choose to include in their games really look like. That could even challenge beliefs some of the writers must feel good about having.
It's patronizing. As expository as a sex education workshop. Players need these things slowly explained to them, see. Surely they will pick up the correct ideas about this topic if we have the characters sit around a table and explain how we think it works.
- Kulyok aime ceci
#189
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:40
Or you know Dorian decides not to mention it since in that gamestate Quizzy simply isn't aware of it. That is also a possibility.
? When did I say it was a big deal? Seriously I would look rather foolish saying that considering the lengths I go through to avoid Isabela/Fenris banter XD
(My issue comes from the defenses used as to why they shouldn't be together instead of simply "I don't like it.")
It is a possibility, but I think the issue is the tone of the post may have come off as a bit dismissive to the people who don't head canon what you do. It is the problem of the internet, things can be taken in a way the original poster did not mean too
(Also, people may have reasoning beyond 'I don't like it' for not liking the pairing, though it really should not matter, people are going to like different things and view the same situation differently. As someone once said, two people view an accident, but there are three different versions of what happened.)
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#190
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:41
Isabela and Fenris are actually my two favorite DA characters, period.
And I HATE their stupid little fling!!!!!
Fenris is MY baby.
Yes I have strong feelings on this matter.
I just don't like it when the writers do this. Aveline x Donnic, yay! Isabela x Fenris, BOOO! If one can be my potential honey, it frustrates me lol Probably because I am a romantic and the "OTP" sort. And M!Hawke x Fenris is my OTP. When I am not romancing Fenris, I can't even recruit him, because my little romantic heart cannot envision a world where they would both exist and not be together.
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#191
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:42
(My issue comes from the defenses used as to why they shouldn't be together instead of simply "I don't like it.")
The IB/Dorian relationship is open to interpretation so I think all opinions on it are valid. "I don't like it" usually comes with it's reasons.
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#192
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:44
It is a possibility, but I think the issue is the tone of the post may have come off as a bit dismissive to the people who don't head canon what you do. It is the problem of the internet, things can be taken in a way the original poster did not mean too
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(Also, people may have reasoning beyond 'I don't like it' for not liking the pairing, though it really should not matter, people are going to like different things and view the same situation differently. As someone once said, two people view an accident, but there are three different versions of what happened.)
Fair enough tone is hard to see through text. ![]()
Never said they couldn't. But if I see a crappy defense I'm gonna call it for what it is *shrug*
Isabela and Fenris are actually my two favorite DA characters, period.
And I HATE their stupid little fling!!!!!
Fenris is MY baby.
Yes I have strong feelings on this matter.
I just don't like it when the writers do this. Aveline x Donnic, yay! Isabela x Fenris, BOOO! If one can be my potential honey, it frustrates me lol Probably because I am a romantic and the "OTP" sort. And M!Hawke x Fenris is my OTP. When I am not romancing Fenris, I can't even recruit him, because my little romantic heart cannot envision a world where they would both exist and not be together.
Not recruiting Fenris? Madness.
Just don't recruit Isabela. Anything she can do dual wield Hawke does 10x better anyway.
- Pasta aime ceci
#193
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:45
The IB/Dorian relationship is open to interpretation so I think all opinions on it are valid. "I don't like it" usually comes with it's reasons.
When it decides to make one character into an abuser with flimsy as hell evidence not it's not equally valid.
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#194
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:47
Fair enough tone is hard to see through text.
Never said they couldn't. But if I see a crappy defense I'm gonna call it for what it is *shrug*
And I don't think it is crappy, but this is a dog chasing its tail. No one is going to agree and all it does is cause problems.
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#195
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:49
And I don't think it is crappy, but this is a dog chasing its tail. No one is going to agree and all it does is cause problems.
And I do. So we clearly we've reached an impasse.
#196
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:51
And I do. So we clearly we've reached an impasse.
Exactly, so it is probably better to leave this one alone, especially since that other thread just happened, what two days ago? Give everyone breathing room.
- Hazegurl aime ceci
#197
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:52
When it decides to make one character into an abuser with flimsy as hell evidence not it's not equally valid.
I consider IB a byproduct of his f*cked up Qun culture and his romance with both Dorian and Quizzy is iffy at best. I'll leave it at that.
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#198
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:54
Exactly, so it is probably better to leave this one alone, especially since that other thread just happened, what two days ago? Give everyone breathing room.
This is not me being confrontational. Snippy yes mostly out of annoyance. But not confrontational.
I consider IB a byproduct of his f*cked up Qun culture and his romance with both Dorian and Quizzy is iffy at best. I'll leave it at that.
Now that's fair.
#199
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:55
Yeah, we should 'Katoh' this direction we're taking...
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#200
Posté 04 janvier 2015 - 03:58
Yeah, we should 'Katoh' this direction we're taking...
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True enough.
So happy I finally got the Cole banter to trigger :3
Also Dorian later said he drew a diagram for a confused Cole...I hope he's not trying to corrupt my spirit child. I don't want to have to sharpen a knife.
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