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I don't want any specific details but I was just wondering; how ruthless does the game allow you to be? Is there anything on the same level as killing Conner or Shooting Mordin? I can imagine the judgements providing the opportunity to deliver some pretty brutal punishments. I'm just wondering because I've heard the game isn't as dark as DAO.
Mooooorrrrdiiiiinnnnnn! *sniffle* Too soon, man. Too soon.
Without giving anything away, yes, you can be very brutal, especially when people stand judgement (with you as judge).
Mooooorrrrdiiiiinnnnnn! *sniffle* Too soon, man. Too soon.
Without giving anything away, yes, you can be very brutal, especially when people stand judgement (with you as judge).
My inner sociopath is pleased to hear that.
Not much opportunity to use the murder knife compared DAO or DA2. I've only been given the choice to use it once
There's a choice that may be hard for players that didn't make a character something in DAO. Since I did, it was a easy choice for me, done with a smile.
You can also kill, bannish, make mages tranquil and send people to the GW
You can sentence nobles to be your court jester in flat shoes.
You can also choose arm a crazy man who catapults goats into your keep and send him against your enemies.
What more could you ask for?
Not much opportunity to use the murder knife compared DAO or DA2. I've only been given the choice to use it once
Yes but you can now RP as Ned Stark!
No DA can compete with ME in terms of ruthlessness.
In ME3... you betray Mordin... you betray Wrex... you betray Legion/Tali... 
The betrayal of Mordin... is beyond ruthless, it is pure evil.. 
No DA can compete with ME in terms of ruthlessness.
In ME3... you betray Mordin... you betray Wrex... you betray Legion/Tali...
The betrayal of Mordin... is beyond ruthless, it is pure evil..
A necessary evil! For the good of the galaxy!
A necessary evil! For the good of the galaxy!
The only being capable of this view is a seashell who fears being experimented upon.
No DA can compete with ME in terms of ruthlessness.:
Yes but you can now RP as Ned Stark!
That ended so well for him...
Well I have only played past leaving Hinterlands and done a little main story after that, but I play with at least 3 different characters (different class for each). And so far (and after reading a bit more on the forums on the opportunities), very little compared to how ruthless you could be in DA2 or Mass Effect 2 and 3.
It seems to be comparable to DA:O and ME1. I guess it's because they switched from using quite a lot of cutscenes to using few, because most dialogues you have are non-cutscenes. And thus you will get less opportunity to use the murder knife, and do similar things. Also, they ditched the forging of your personality that you could do with Hawke, choosing "red" answers made you more ruthless in DA2. In DA:I the Inquisitor seems more neutral.
If one want to be truly vicious, you'll have to play SWTOR.
Not much opportunity to use the murder knife compared DAO or DA2. I've only been given the choice to use it once
From what I've seen of the judgements so far, it looks like they've replaced the murder knife with the murder sword.
You can sentence nobles to be your court jester in flat shoes.
You can also choose arm a crazy man who catapults goats into your keep and send him against your enemies.
What more could you ask for?
Have the noble and the crazy man hanged or beheaded and then pose their corpses as warnings to my enemies.
You sure about that? Cause if you play as a city elf in DAO, you have the option of selling your own cousin along with several other women into sex slavery. All for a few sovereigns. Atleast shooting Mordin had the justification of getting Salarian Support for the war along with demolishing the possibility of a future Krogan rebellion.
Yep, Dragon Age: Origins had some really ruthless choices. I think most people here still haven't seen them all. You had several instances where you could kill several innocent people for little reason (i.e injured soldier in Ostagar, prisoner in Ostagar, doom prophet preacher in Redcliffe, injured elf in the Brecilian Forest etc). IIRC follow up dialogue with companions could even allow you to say particularly psychopathic things like "I felt like it." Shepard could be ruthless but not bordering on psychopathic like The Warden could be. Also you could abandon Redcliffe to be destroyed by the undead if you felt like it.
Yep, Dragon Age: Origins had some really ruthless choices. I think most people here still haven't seen them all. You had several instances where you could kill several innocent people for little reason (i.e injured soldier in Ostagar, prisoner in Ostagar, doom prophet preacher in Redcliffe, injured elf in the Brecilian Forest etc). IIRC follow up dialogue with companions could even allow you to say particularly psychopathic things like "I felt like it." Shepard could be ruthless but not bordering on psychopathic like The Warden could be. Also you could abandon Redcliffe to be destroyed by the undead if you felt like it.
Yeah, I seriously think that renegade Shepard gets waaay more criticism than he deserves. People always point out the shooting Mordin thing, even though there was plenty of justification behind it. At the same time, punching the reporter is a popular decision in the forums. So shooting a friend in order to get the support of an entire species in a war makes you as bad as Hitler. Yet its totally fine for a trained soldier with genetic enhancements to a punch a woman in the face for being annoying...
You sure about that? Cause if you play as a city elf in DAO, you have the option of selling your own cousin along with several other women into sex slavery. All for a few sovereigns. Atleast shooting Mordin had the justification of getting Salarian Support for the war along with demolishing the possibility of a future Krogan rebellion.
In the City Elf origin, you hardly know those NPC enough to care. It only made me feel unsettling and I I have no problem living with that decision. At worst I am just a pimp. Besides, one can always justify that there is nothing they can do. What's done is done and it is better to take the money as compensation.
In the case of Mordin, regardless of your justifications, you betrayed someone who followed you to hell and back only to die by your hands, denying his last wish to right his job, his responsibilities. Here, you are at the very least a backstabbing traitor as oppose to just a pimp.
In the City Elf origin, you hardly know those NPC enough to care. It only made me feel unsettling and I I have no problem living with that decision. At worst I am just a pimp. Besides, one can always justify that there is nothing they can do. What's done is done and it is better to take the money as compensation.
Okay I killed Mordin and this worries me so much.
Like...what.
Most "evil" actions in ME universe were for some higher purpose. Most. For example, shooting Mordin in the back can be justified on at least two counts: (1) you need as much support as you can get, and (2) you're worried that the korgan just might wipe out everyone afterwards. Of course, you're still a horrible backstabbing bastard. But there was a reason.
Whereas DAO had a bunch of opportunities to use a murder knife just because. You looked at me wrong? MURDER KNIFE. Now that's some serious psychopath stuff.
DAI is kind of in between.
Most "evil" actions in ME universe were for some higher purpose. Most. For example, shooting Mordin in the back can be justified on at least two counts: (1) you need as much support as you can get, and (2) you're worried that the korgan just might wipe out everyone afterwards. Of course, you're still a horrible backstabbing bastard. But there was a reason.
Whereas DAO had a bunch of opportunities to use a murder knife just because. You looked at me wrong? MURDER KNIFE. Now that's some serious psychopath stuff.
DAI is kind of in between.
"I hear you're making a killing. Me too!"
Being a psychopath made no sense in Origins 
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